So I was reflecting on the gospel.

Gregory Thompson · Jul 7, 2020

So I was reflecting on the gospel, you know - those texts that academics of the bible tend to never refer to?

The part of the gospel I was reflecting on was how the scribes and such were constantly reading the bible like the people who think they know everything, and according to Jesus - they weren't even reading the bible the right way.

There are a couple things really missing from a lot of academic readings of the bible -

1) the words of God are not treated as though they are alive, but just as words in any other book. (conservative and liberal academics a like do this same thing)

2) the underlying (higher) principles described in the bible, do not steer their interpretation of texts. (especially the love texts)

3) The application of academic interpretations tends to violate the basis commandments such as treat others as you would like to be treated.

I get the sense in watching the application and listening to the exposition, that God's heart has been ripped out of the teachings.

So I started this thread so we can reflect on the gospel, that turned the world upside down, especially for the scribes, pharisees, and sadducees

LoveGodsWord · Jul 7, 2020

Michael Collum said:
So I was reflecting on the gospel, you know - those texts that academics of the bible tend to never refer to?

The part of the gospel I was reflecting on was how the scribes and such were constantly reading the bible like the people who think they know everything, and according to Jesus - they weren't even reading the bible the right way.

There are a couple things really missing from a lot of academic readings of the bible -

1) the words of God are not treated as though they are alive, but just as words in any other book. (conservative and liberal academics a like do this same thing)

2) the underlying (higher) principles described in the bible, do not steer their interpretation of texts. (especially the love texts)

3) The application of academic interpretations tends to violate the basis commandments such as treat others as you would like to be treated.

I get the sense in watching the application and listening to the exposition, that God's heart has been ripped out of the teachings.

So I started this thread so we can reflect on the gospel, that turned the world upside down, especially for the scribes, pharisees, and sadducees

Good post and observation. This is why the Scribes and Pharisees did not know the truth of the Word of God as God's truth can only be given by God to those who seek him for it and ask him for it by faith. The truth of God's Word is only revlealed to those who seek God through his Spirit just ask the humble unlearned fisherman. God's Word is the living Word of God of creation. His Word is Spirit and is truth. It is not a book but it is a book to those who view it this way will never know it. According to the scriptures though the gospel is more than many think it means. Gods Word is living and it is Gods Spirit alone that is the teacher of all truth. God's Word only comes alive however only to those who believe it is God's Word and not a book.

hedrick · Jul 7, 2020

Many commentators, particularly the more technical academic ones, see their purpose as understanding the intent of the authors, but not necessarily reflecting on the significance for us. I think this separation has advantages. If you mix the detailed analysis of the text with coming up with your own understanding, it's too easy to bend the passages that don't quite fit into the picture you're trying to build.

There are plenty of books that try to build a coherent picture of Jesus' message, based on the kind of work done by commentators. And at times that, too, gets split, with a second level looking at what it means for us at the moment. Jesus' original audience, after all, is quite different from us. How many people even recognize that there may be a difference?

Not everyone appreciates this approach, but after seeing how people in CF tend to use the Bible, I appreciate it. How often do you see people really look at Jesus in his own terms, vs collecting verses to support their favorite theology?

Carl Emerson · Jul 7, 2020

Yes, It seems theology is responsible for much of the division in His body.

Instead of presenting a New Way of Love we insist on a set way of thinking about matters far from clear in scripture.

a-lily-of-peace · Jul 8, 2020

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

(John 3:16, NKJV)

I was told recently that the “so” there is not saying “so much” or a measure of quantity of love, but rather “as such” or a description of how God loved the world.

So with that in mind, one of the first things that made me want to study Hebrew — the words love and give share the same root.

Hebrew Word Study: Ahavah

The Meaning of Love, as understood from Hebrew Language

It gives so much context to reading things like this:

For who makes you differ from another? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?
(1 Corinthians 4:7, NKJV)

And above all things have fervent love for one another, for “love will cover a multitude of sins.” Be hospitable to one another without grumbling. As each one has received a gift, minister it to one another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
(1 Peter 4:8-10, NKJV)

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