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What on Earth does setting up the abomination of desolation have to do with protecting Israel. That makes no sense

Israel is overrun by the beast before the king of the north places the abomination of desolation.
The king of the north isn't protecting Israel. He's keeping Israel's nuclear arsonal out of enemy hands. He's doing his job.
 
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Sure he would. Most people would .
Keep in mind. The king of the norths armed forces stationed in Jerusalem when it is overrun by the beast will lay dead in the street. And his close ally the Israeli government and its prime minister will be dead. Of course Trump would order his armed forces to place the abomination of desolation. He would be crazy not to.

Would you wait and allow those Muslims to gain control of Israel's nuclear weapons and turn them on your country or would you order your armed forces to use he abomination of desolation?
Trumps not going to wait for ten million americans to die before he would use it. He might not want to kill ten million but he will to keep America safe.
Trump says he could win war in Afghanistan but doesn't want to 'kill 10 million people'


Are modern animal sacrifices already an abomination to God?
They have already started in the video below.


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Dead sheep don't cause desolation. Look at my picture of desolation.
Our armed forces did that.

The nuclear weapons used at the end of WW2 will look like a birthday candle compared to the fire found in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Peter 3:10-13.

This whole planet is going to burn, based on what Peter said in the passage above.

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The nuclear weapons used at the end of WW2 will look like a birthday candle compared to the fire found in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Peter 3:10-13.

This whole planet is going to burn, based on what Peter said in the passage above.

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And you think killing a sheep is an abomination our armed forces would do?You think we will start dropping sheep on our enemies?
 
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What are your thoughts on Richardson's teachings, especially on the Islamic antichrist and mystery Babylon.

Thanks,

jm
I can see where he might make the connection since Islam and Gnostic thought seem related, and the original scripture about the antichrist was against the gnostics who claimed Jesus did not come in the flesh.

However, I tend to think of the antichrist as someone who follows the God of the patriarchs and then becomes the anti-thesis of Christ.

Since the Jesus of the Quran is based on an alternate Jesus who didn't exist, that Jesus cannot be the antithesis of the real Jesus is my reasoning.

However, if that does happen, the fake Jesus appearing would fit the bill for the enigmatic saying "who wasn't, yet is"
 
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I can see where he might make the connection since Islam and Gnostic thought seem related, and the original scripture about the antichrist was against the gnostics who claimed Jesus did not come in the flesh.

However, I tend to think of the antichrist as someone who follows the God of the patriarchs and then becomes the anti-thesis of Christ.

Since the Jesus of the Quran is based on an alternate Jesus who didn't exist, that Jesus cannot be the antithesis of the real Jesus is my reasoning.

However, if that does happen, the fake Jesus appearing would fit the bill for the enigmatic saying "who wasn't, yet is"
Michael, in muslim end times prophecies... (Isa is the muslim version of Jesus)

1. Isa does not appear until the Mahdi and the dajjal are in a final big battle.

2. Therefore the dajjal must appear before Isa comes.

The problem is that there is no biblical corresponding character that would equate to the dajjal.
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If you can stand to watch this video by false prophets - it is easy to see the muslim (false) prophecies will never materialize (I could stand to watch only part of it). Nothing matches up with the real end time prophecies in the bible. The muslim dajjal will never materialize.

Curly hair, can't see out of the right eye, protrudes like a grape. Wide stance, i.e. wide body. Hairy. Between two eyes will be the the word "kafir" - visible to muslim believers, as a means to recognize him. Muslim (false) prophecies.

During the time of the dajjal - the earth's rotation will reverse and the sun will rise from the west. Muslim (false) prophecies.

dajjal prevented from entering medina and mecca by angels. The dajjal comes from the east (maybe Yemen). Muslim (false) prophecies.

The dajjal does miracle of bringing rain, during time of worldwide famine, going from city to city to get people to believe he is the messiah. If the city does not believe he is not the messiah - no rain, drought continues for that city. Muslim (false) prophecies.

dajjah cuts a person in half, killing him, and then rejoins him back together, back to life, as proof to his claim of being Allah. Muslim (false) prophecies.

 
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Joel Richardson would have never gone down the road of thinking the Mahdi as being the biblical Antichrist if Joel was familiar with post #1 in this thread.

Number one thing to understanding end times bible prophecy.....

Number one thing to understanding end times bible prophecy..... Know the difference between being the Antichrist, King of Israel (coming in his own name), and being the little horn, then beast, the 7th and 8th King of the Roman Empire.

It is the same person, but in completely different functional roles.

A muslim cannot be the Antichrist. Because a muslim cannot become the King of Israel messiah to the Jews. It doesn't fit their beliefs on the messiah.

And after readng my post above #48, do you think there is any way the Muslim (false) prophecies about the dajjal can ever materialize? Without the dajjal, there can be no appearance of Isa (their version of Jesus). So the other thinking in the Mahdi Antichrist theory, that the false prophet is the muslim Isa - can never materialize as well.

Joel Richardson does not understand that calling the person the Antichrist in a universal sense across the whole end times 7 year 70th week is a big mistake. The person is the Antichrist only for the duration of that person being the King of Israel for awhile.
 
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Like I said. I understood Trump would become president because of the details in scripture. Also understood this administration would move the embassy to Jerusalem.
If you want to call God's prophecies false, that's on you. But I chose to believe them even before they come to pass.
Spell out the details in scripture. Are you sure you are not seeing only what you want to see? And making them say what you want?
 
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Michael, in muslim end times prophecies... (Isa is the muslim version of Jesus)

1. Isa does not appear until the Mahdi and the dajjal are in a final big battle.

2. Therefore the dajjal must appear before Isa comes.

The problem is that there is no biblical corresponding character that would equate to the dajjal.
________________________________________________________

If you can stand to watch this video by false prophets - it is easy to see the muslim (false) prophecies will never materialize (I could stand to watch only part of it). Nothing matches up with the real end time prophecies in the bible. The muslim dajjal will never materialize.

Curly hair, can't see out of the right eye, protrudes like a grape. Wide stance, i.e. wide body. Hairy. Between two eyes will be the the word "kafir" - visible to muslim believers, as a means to recognize him. Muslim (false) prophecies.

During the time of the dajjal - the earth's rotation will reverse and the sun will rise from the west. Muslim (false) prophecies.

dajjal prevented from entering medina and mecca by angels. The dajjal comes from the east (maybe Yemen). Muslim (false) prophecies.

The dajjal does miracle of bringing rain, during time of worldwide famine, going from city to city to get people to believe he is the messiah. If the city does not believe he is not the messiah - no rain, drought continues for that city. Muslim (false) prophecies.

dajjah cuts a person in half, killing him, and then rejoins him back together, back to life, as proof to his claim of being Allah. Muslim (false) prophecies.

Only other scripture brought to remembrance in that one is about the shepherd of Zechariah 11:16-17 since he too only had one working eye.

I find with prophecies false or otherwise, it helps to look at what does match.
 
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Since the scriptures were completed, all prophecy not from scripture is false.


Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

Dave how do you balance these verses against you statement above?

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 19:10
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
 
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I've listened to two of his podcasts. He seems to be a legit futurist and I didn't detect any wackiness in the two podcasts I listened to.

The man is a Dispensationalist, who has rejected the Pretrib removal of the Church.

Would you consider that wacky?

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Virtually all the main verbs in Revelation 13:12-18 are present tense. What John sees is something literally going on while he watches. John's purpose is not to construct a scenario of events in some distant future, but rather to interpret events happening in his day.

Once we stop looking for a blueprint of the future, we can use it to interpret events happening all around us, in every age and generation where the state and religion become coupled, turning the state into an idol, occupying the place of allegience that is reserved for God alone.

In this sense, Islam is the beast, just as our forebears saw Catholicism as such, just as any movement that resembles religion and demands an absolute allegience to state...

It plays out time and again, (Israel and Rome, Islam and the Middle East, Catholisism and the western nations) and the saints must know their responsibility when it comes around to them...

At the moment in the U.S., it's the attempt to overthrow the U.S. government (a governmental system based on the belief in God) to put a Marxist (atheistic) system in place, and using groups like BLM and liberal Protestant churches twisting scripture to install this new form of government.

Will the God of the heavens and the earth one day say enough is enough and put a stop to it all? Yes... and it matters not what hour that will be, what matters is how we stand against the antichrists, beasts and false prophets before us, in our place, in our time.

This is our war, and we must be present for it.
 
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