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I have noticed many people in this section feel they have committed a sin that God will not forgive. So I have written a document explaining how God does indeed forgive you.

From time to time a person may think that they have committed a sin that is unpardonable, but is it actually scriptural. First I will show the most common reasons people feel they have committed it, and show that really there is no basis for this for a person who desires repentance. There are two ways the devil will try to convince a person they have committed sin that God will not forgive.

The first method is by using the following scriptures. Which although are in separate books of the bible they are identical passages, it is the same story written by different authors. The verses say:

Mat 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Mar 3:28-30 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

So how does the devil use this verse? Firstly he will try to get a person to say something negative about God or in a time of sin will cause a person to speak something defamatory against God or the Holy Spirit. He will then put pressure on the person through feelings of anxiety that they have been separated from God and are no longer saved, and can not be forgiven.

We will discuss latter that all sins can be forgiven. But for now we will discuss what these verses were referring to. You will notice Mark says what the sin is that the Pharisees are committing. After seeing Jesus perform a miracle they said that Jesus had performed the miracle by the working of satanic power. They were calling Jesus a devil for performing miracles. Notice that although Jesus said it is unforgivable to speak in this way against God, he closed the passage with the following statement:

But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Notice the passage said the person was in danger of eternal damnation. Being in danger of falling off a cliff does not kill you; it is only if you fall off that you die. Jesus said that those who were blaspheming the Holy Spirit were not damned but were only in danger of hell. The reason for this is if they repented of their sin, realised Jesus was from God, they could have forgiveness. It was only their current state of unbelief that was unforgivable. God will only offer so much proof, if we deny the proof he offers we may find we are in danger of hell. But if you have just spoken a word against God, it is nothing at all, it is just the devil lying to you to keep you from blessing, God has already forgiven you.



So what are the other scary verses? Hebrew 6 is one of the most feared. The devil uses this verse by getting a person to believe that if they sin they are abandoning faith, he will say “If you sin you will no longer be a Christian”, when he knows full well you intend to sin, or are too weak to resist sin. So what is the verse:

It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. - Heb 6:4-6

So that sounds quite scary to a genuine Christian who may have fallen into a sin, or gone back to an old sin. They may well think I have fallen away, I have blasphemed the Holy Spirit and it is as Hebrews says now “Impossible”, to be “bought back to repentance”. However the actual problem with this thinking comes from the idea that the verse is actually meaning that they are currently “crucifying the Son of God all over again”. This thinking would mean that in order for the person to have out sinned God, Jesus sacrifice is no longer there. But how far does it stretch? Only one sin, two sins, no sins, only sins before receiving the Holy Spirit? The latter is often peoples fear, i.e. “I have once been enlightened”, now they feel cut off. But we will actually start with Hebrews to show that the idea that Jesus sacrifice is limited to a few sins or one almighty sin is flawed. Note the following verse:

Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; Heb 9:27-28

So what did that just say, man dies once, so in like manner Jesus dies once. So from my rendering that is a life for a life, one life time of sins for one sacrifice. We don’t face judgment until after we die. A further verse that supports the idea that sin is covered for a life time is the following

If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 1Jn 5:16

Note that Paul says that any sin that is not taken to the grave is forgivable, we are just not to pray for peoples sins once they die. It means that if God has left us alive he is seeking eternal life for us, he wants us restored. We are to pray for life for the sinning believer while they live. It is only if you die in sin that it is too late.

How forgivable is sin, and once we receive the Holy Spirit are we a super being incapable of sinning? First we must go to a verse directed to those who HAD received the Holy Spirit and it says:

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. - 1Jn 1:7-9

So firstly he said “if we claim to be with out sin”, or the devil tells you were 100% with out sin, and have now stuffed up, we should quote that verse, “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us” but what else does it say God is “is faithful and just and will forgive”, and to forgive “all sin”. Faithfulness means a person sticks by us even when we don’t do the right thing. Justice is doing what is fair. God sees it as fair to forgive a person seeking repentance, to deny a person the right to forgiveness is unfair, but note God is both faithful and just. And furthermore what of the verse below:

My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. - 1Jn 2:1-2

But if anyone does sin, we have one who speaks in our defence, so Jesus is actually defending you. Note he is the sacrifice for “our sins”, not just the unbelievers sins. So a Christian can sin and be justified. Remember what Jesus said to his disciples when they asked how many times their brother could sin and still be forgiven.

Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?" Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times”. Mat 18:21-22

The above verse means infinitely, all the time. When a brother in Christ wants repentance God said “forgive them”. God does the same with any sin he forgives when ever we ask.

And what about the book of James, referring to Christians who have gone back to sin:

My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins. - Jas 5:19-20

So if some one moves away from God, wanders into error, and sin they can be bought back to repentance.

Also the bible says in Ezekiel

Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? - Eze 18:23

Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, O house of Israel? For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live! - Eze 18:31-32

What God, does not delight in the death of anyone, so he is not delighting in sinners perishing. He says “Why will you die?”, there is no need to die, all we need to do is repent, change our thinking, and we will have life. Again he says:

The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. - 2Pe 3:9

So if we confess our sin, it is pardonable, why well the sacrifice of Jesus is available today. Why well God is “faithful and just”, “not willing that anyone perish”, taking “no pleasure in the death of anyone”. But remember it is a life for a life, once for all sin, in the same way it is appointed for man to die once and face the judgment. Jesus death only paid for this life’s sins, if we don’t repent before we die, there is no sacrifice for eternal sin, Jesus died in the flesh, not the Spirit, he did not suffer hell for us, only death in the body. But hey don’t be scared if you are alive and reading this there is no problem. The only sin that will kill you is totally unrepentant sin, not willing to come back for forgiveness no matter what God says, and if you have that sort you are probably not even interested in reading this page. God is not unjust, he is faithful. Ask God to restore his relationship with you, and he will not cast you out. You will be saved.
 

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Almost two months ago I was gripped with fear and anxiety and was depressed because I thought I had blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Looking back now, I don’t think I did but I was convinced that I did. I was depressed and didn’t want to leave my house, searched online for reassurance which only caused me greater despair. I was afraid to read the word, listen to worship and hang out with Christian friends (which was so unlike me cos I loved reading the word and worship) Stumbled upon warning verses like Hebrews 6 and rejecting Christ which freaked me out even more. I was getting thoughts like I don’t want to follow Jesus anymore or that I don’t believe.

Because of all this, I started to question my life and God. I believed I was going to H. Ever since then something changed. I’d get thoughts like I don’t believe and etc. I’d wake up in the morning anxious cos I’d get thoughts like that. Last Saturday night, I felt uplifted was able to worship and read the word without a problem. I felt joy for the first time in a while that I didn’t want to sleep. I wanted to stay in His presence. The next day I woke up and I was very anxious with the same thoughts. Took me two hours to get up, but when I did, I started saying verses out loud and next thing you know my anxiety was gone. I got to my car and I started crying out to Jesus saying how much I love him. After that I was overcome with anxiety again and the same thoughts. I took a nap and woke up, and I felt normal but in a weird way. It felt like I didn’t believe anymore. I’ve been feeling that way ever since. I’m afraid that I’m falling away. I’ve always had the desire to get to know Jesus in a deeper way and live my life for Him.

Also, during this time, I learned a lot about myself that I would’ve never recognized if I hadn’t gone through this. I was blinded with pride and other evil things. I thought I was a “good” Christian but deep down inside I was deceived.
 
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Now I feel nothing. I believe in Jesus, I want to have a relationship with Him. But I feel like theres a block. My heart feels hardened and I’m afraid it’s all bc of unbelief.

I get thoughts that I don’t believe and that I don’t care.

I hate to sound depressing. I’m usually bubbly. Even just typing this, I feel normal. I screwed up so badly.
 
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Now I feel nothing. I believe in Jesus, I want to have a relationship with Him. But I feel like theres a block. My heart feels hardened and I’m afraid it’s all bc of unbelief.

I get thoughts that I don’t believe and that I don’t care.

I hate to sound depressing. I’m usually bubbly. Even just typing this, I feel normal. I screwed up so badly.
Hello, don't worry. The fact that you want to have a relationship with Jesus shows that you believe in Him and that you love Him. God is always for you and not against you. Jesus loves you and God is your Heavenly Father.
 
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Now I feel nothing. I believe in Jesus, I want to have a relationship with Him. But I feel like theres a block. My heart feels hardened and I’m afraid it’s all bc of unbelief.

I get thoughts that I don’t believe and that I don’t care.

I hate to sound depressing. I’m usually bubbly. Even just typing this, I feel normal. I screwed up so badly.
Firstly you should recognize that those thoughts are not coming from you, they are not from your heart. So immediately reject and rebuke those bad thoughts in the name of Jesus Christ.

Secondly ask God in faith to soften your heart and give you a heart of flesh. Ask Him to strengthen your faith.

Thirdly in your prayers, remind God of His promises in the Bible. Everyone who the Father draws to Jesus, He will in no wise lose a single one. Jesus always finishes the works He has started in people. No one can snatch you out of the Fathers or Jesus hand. Everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. ALL your sins have been forgiven: past, present and future. IT IS FINISHED!

Those are some things that have helped me. That said I am still in uncharted waters.
 
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Thank you for your post. I too have feared I have blasphemed. The thing is I never ever wanted too but my problem is I wasn't in the Word like I should have been. I sinned against God not by speech by by an act. An act that I see now is just utterly deplorable. Since then I've been having intrusive thoughts and have felt that I'm also hellbound. I never wanted to go there. I didn't realise what happened until It was too late. After the intrusions started happening, I thought it was God condemning me. I thought He was judging me. People kept saying the Holy Spirit doesn't judge. I know The Holy Spirit doesn't curse either. Certain phrases in the intrusions caused me to look up on the scriptures and I was very very afraid I committed the unpardonable sin. I looked upon the sacrifice of Jesus and saw He died for all unrighteousness and was called the Second Adam. I interpret this to mean that any sin that sprang forth from Adam, He has the ability to forgive. I also read about how God doesn't want anyone to perish as well.
I just want to make it right with God again. I want a better relationship with Him. I hope He permits me to do so. Because of the intrusions, I feel so guilty and sometimes I think perhaps God may be spurning me. I know I am not worthy of Him. I never was. But these are just feelings. I cannot pray like I used too. Sometimes the intrusions make me feel like my prayers are not heard. I know I cannot work my way back to God. I hope the intrusions will eventually stop because in a way when they do, I'd feel comforted to know that He has taken away my reproach. With my sin, i can see how i got God very angry with me. For someone who claims to I've God, I do not understand why I would have done such a thing. I took Him for granted and I'm paying dearly for it.
I don't know if this is God's way of chastening me. I know I deserve it.
Sometimes I ask myself what was the basis of me being saved. Was it for fire insurance? I question everything about why i am in the place I am today.
I can't remember actively doing anything against anyone. Being deliberately unkind or deliberately hurtful although I'm sure I did it because I'm fallible. I have alot to work on with my attitude.
Unfortunately I have been dominated with my emotions alot. I have always been one of those feel good Christians. I love the presence of God. I miss the richness of His presence. Being out of His presence by itself hurts me. It hurts to see everyone enjoying His presence and me feeling left out on the side of it. Striving to get in but not able too. God has been gracious to me to allow me to experience little bits of His presence here and there. I haven't been able to be in His presence for very long.
God knows my heart. He also knows the depravity of my sin. It depresses me. It depresses me even more to know that i can't make it up to God. He is the One who has to be gracious toward me. It is out of my hands. I guess I'm just waiting on Him for now. I'm waiting for the intrusions to stop. He has authority over this I know.
 
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Thank you for your post. I too have feared I have blasphemed. The thing is I never ever wanted too but my problem is I wasn't in the Word like I should have been. I sinned against God not by speech by by an act. An act that I see now is just utterly deplorable. Since then I've been having intrusive thoughts and have felt that I'm also hellbound. I never wanted to go there. I didn't realise what happened until It was too late. After the intrusions started happening, I thought it was God condemning me. I thought He was judging me. People kept saying the Holy Spirit doesn't judge. I know The Holy Spirit doesn't curse either. Certain phrases in the intrusions caused me to look up on the scriptures and I was very very afraid I committed the unpardonable sin. I looked upon the sacrifice of Jesus and saw He died for all unrighteousness and was called the Second Adam. I interpret this to mean that any sin that sprang forth from Adam, He has the ability to forgive. I also read about how God doesn't want anyone to perish as well.
I just want to make it right with God again. I want a better relationship with Him. I hope He permits me to do so. Because of the intrusions, I feel so guilty and sometimes I think perhaps God may be spurning me. I know I am not worthy of Him. I never was. But these are just feelings. I cannot pray like I used too. Sometimes the intrusions make me feel like my prayers are not heard. I know I cannot work my way back to God. I hope the intrusions will eventually stop because in a way when they do, I'd feel comforted to know that He has taken away my reproach. With my sin, i can see how i got God very angry with me. For someone who claims to I've God, I do not understand why I would have done such a thing. I took Him for granted and I'm paying dearly for it.
I don't know if this is God's way of chastening me. I know I deserve it.
Sometimes I ask myself what was the basis of me being saved. Was it for fire insurance? I question everything about why i am in the place I am today.
I can't remember actively doing anything against anyone. Being deliberately unkind or deliberately hurtful although I'm sure I did it because I'm fallible. I have alot to work on with my attitude.
Unfortunately I have been dominated with my emotions alot. I have always been one of those feel good Christians. I love the presence of God. I miss the richness of His presence. Being out of His presence by itself hurts me. It hurts to see everyone enjoying His presence and me feeling left out on the side of it. Striving to get in but not able too. God has been gracious to me to allow me to experience little bits of His presence here and there. I haven't been able to be in His presence for very long.
God knows my heart. He also knows the depravity of my sin. It depresses me. It depresses me even more to know that i can't make it up to God. He is the One who has to be gracious toward me. It is out of my hands. I guess I'm just waiting on Him for now. I'm waiting for the intrusions to stop. He has authority over this I know.
Thank you for sharing. I can totally relate. It sucks being around friends who feels connected to God. You can message me if you need anyone to talk to.
 
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Thank you for sharing. I can totally relate. It sucks being around friends who feels connected to God. You can message me if you need anyone to talk to.
I wouldn't say that it sux to be around them. It's not their fault. It sux I'm in the position I'm in. Sometimes I compare myself to them and realise that I shouldn't. I know my sin. God knows theirs. Sometimes I think they are better than me and God knows it which is why im going through what I'm going through. They had a heart of obedience. They wouldn't have sinned like me. They were in the Word. They had better guidance in their life. And so the comparison goes. Sometimes I see the start of a resentment and I try to squash it before it begins. I pray for their continual growth. I pray for their continual protection so they won't be in a place like me. I pray for their continual blessing. I do not want to be envious of them but sometimes it's hard to be the outsider. I want to be in God's good graces too.

I wish I was a better person and I never sinned the way I did.
 
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I wouldn't say that it sux to be around them. It's not their fault. It sux I'm in the position I'm in. Sometimes I compare myself to them and realise that I shouldn't. I know my sin. God knows theirs. Sometimes I think they are better than me and God knows it which is why im going through what I'm going through. They had a heart of obedience. They wouldn't have sinned like me. They were in the Word. They had better guidance in their life. And so the comparison goes. Sometimes I see the start of a resentment and I try to squash it before it begins. I pray for their continual growth. I pray for their continual protection so they won't be in a place like me. I pray for their continual blessing. I do not want to be envious of them but sometimes it's hard to be the outsider. I want to be in God's good graces too.

I wish I was a better person and I never sinned the way I did.
I feel like I am in a similar situation also. I'm praying for you.

These verses from Hebrews 10 resonate with me regarding my current predicament.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
 
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Almost two months ago I was gripped with fear and anxiety and was depressed because I thought I had blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Looking back now, I don’t think I did but I was convinced that I did. I was depressed and didn’t want to leave my house, searched online for reassurance which only caused me greater despair. I was afraid to read the word, listen to worship and hang out with Christian friends (which was so unlike me cos I loved reading the word and worship) Stumbled upon warning verses like Hebrews 6 and rejecting Christ which freaked me out even more. I was getting thoughts like I don’t want to follow Jesus anymore or that I don’t believe.

Because of all this, I started to question my life and God. I believed I was going to H. Ever since then something changed. I’d get thoughts like I don’t believe and etc. I’d wake up in the morning anxious cos I’d get thoughts like that. Last Saturday night, I felt uplifted was able to worship and read the word without a problem. I felt joy for the first time in a while that I didn’t want to sleep. I wanted to stay in His presence. The next day I woke up and I was very anxious with the same thoughts. Took me two hours to get up, but when I did, I started saying verses out loud and next thing you know my anxiety was gone. I got to my car and I started crying out to Jesus saying how much I love him. After that I was overcome with anxiety again and the same thoughts. I took a nap and woke up, and I felt normal but in a weird way. It felt like I didn’t believe anymore. I’ve been feeling that way ever since. I’m afraid that I’m falling away. I’ve always had the desire to get to know Jesus in a deeper way and live my life for Him.

Also, during this time, I learned a lot about myself that I would’ve never recognized if I hadn’t gone through this. I was blinded with pride and other evil things. I thought I was a “good” Christian but deep down inside I was deceived.
This is an EXTREMELY common obsession among Christians with OCD. The strategies for dealing with it are the same as with every obsession: recognize that our brains are distorting the truth, and learn to treat those distortions as meaningless by ignoring them. That includes not doing the compulsions that our OCD wants us to do - things like ruminating, asking over and over for reassurance, researching compulsively, pushing away or cancelling out intrusive thoughts, etc. Can you identify the compulsions that you do?
 
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Thank you for your post. I too have feared I have blasphemed. The thing is I never ever wanted too but my problem is I wasn't in the Word like I should have been. I sinned against God not by speech by by an act. An act that I see now is just utterly deplorable. Since then I've been having intrusive thoughts and have felt that I'm also hellbound. I never wanted to go there. I didn't realise what happened until It was too late. After the intrusions started happening, I thought it was God condemning me. I thought He was judging me. People kept saying the Holy Spirit doesn't judge. I know The Holy Spirit doesn't curse either. Certain phrases in the intrusions caused me to look up on the scriptures and I was very very afraid I committed the unpardonable sin. I looked upon the sacrifice of Jesus and saw He died for all unrighteousness and was called the Second Adam. I interpret this to mean that any sin that sprang forth from Adam, He has the ability to forgive. I also read about how God doesn't want anyone to perish as well.
I just want to make it right with God again. I want a better relationship with Him. I hope He permits me to do so. Because of the intrusions, I feel so guilty and sometimes I think perhaps God may be spurning me. I know I am not worthy of Him. I never was. But these are just feelings. I cannot pray like I used too. Sometimes the intrusions make me feel like my prayers are not heard. I know I cannot work my way back to God. I hope the intrusions will eventually stop because in a way when they do, I'd feel comforted to know that He has taken away my reproach. With my sin, i can see how i got God very angry with me. For someone who claims to I've God, I do not understand why I would have done such a thing. I took Him for granted and I'm paying dearly for it.
I don't know if this is God's way of chastening me. I know I deserve it.
Sometimes I ask myself what was the basis of me being saved. Was it for fire insurance? I question everything about why i am in the place I am today.
I can't remember actively doing anything against anyone. Being deliberately unkind or deliberately hurtful although I'm sure I did it because I'm fallible. I have alot to work on with my attitude.
Unfortunately I have been dominated with my emotions alot. I have always been one of those feel good Christians. I love the presence of God. I miss the richness of His presence. Being out of His presence by itself hurts me. It hurts to see everyone enjoying His presence and me feeling left out on the side of it. Striving to get in but not able too. God has been gracious to me to allow me to experience little bits of His presence here and there. I haven't been able to be in His presence for very long.
God knows my heart. He also knows the depravity of my sin. It depresses me. It depresses me even more to know that i can't make it up to God. He is the One who has to be gracious toward me. It is out of my hands. I guess I'm just waiting on Him for now. I'm waiting for the intrusions to stop. He has authority over this I know.
Did you actually sin, or are you just afraid that you did?
 
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This is an EXTREMELY common obsession among Christians with OCD. The strategies for dealing with it are the same as with every obsession: recognize that our brains are distorting the truth, and learn to treat those distortions as meaningless by ignoring them. That includes not doing the compulsions that our OCD wants us to do - things like ruminating, asking over and over for reassurance, researching compulsively, pushing away or cancelling out intrusive thoughts, etc. Can you identify the compulsions that you do?
I ruminated, look things up and push the thoughts away. I also pinch my ear a lot.
 
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I did sin.
I'm sorry that you have this struggle to deal with. I've forgotten, do you have a therapist who can help you work through some of these things, and focus on tackling the OCD? (There is OCD mixed in with all this, right?)
 
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I don't think this thread should be under 'Obsessive Compulsive Disorder' section. Its scriptural and not OCD.

I'm subscribing. There are prayers i've pleaded at the Lord's feet for and they are to relief the sins of other Christians, etc. Even asked Christ to give a vast portion of my strength (through the holy spirit) onto others who need it. I know there are prayers you can not pray for and a sin you can do/pray for which won't effect your eternity. Its only the elect which will know what sin you can pray for.

God Bless
 
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I don't think this thread should be under 'Obsessive Compulsive Disorder' section. Its scriptural and not OCD.

I'm subscribing. There are prayers i've pleaded at the Lord's feet for and they are to relief the sins of other Christians, etc. Even asked Christ to give a vast portion of my strength (through the holy spirit) onto others who need it. I know there are prayers you can not pray for and a sin you can do/pray for which won't effect your eternity. Its only the elect which will know what sin you can pray for.

God Bless
I believe it isn’t OCD.
 
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