Herman Cain Hospitalized For COVID-19 Hours After Condemning Masks

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Mask are used to scare people....
True, some are, like these ones:
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or this one by Tom Savini
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but these ones? I'm hard pressed to see what's scary about them:
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lure them into a false sense of security.
...or they're just something we can do to help stop the spread of the virus. :wave:
tulc(isn't sure why trying to keep the people around us safe seems to scare so many people) :sorry:
 
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It's not obvious from the article that he condemned masks at all. In fact, it's obvious that the quote they used contained no condemnation of masks at all.
Okay...so does this sound like someone who supports wearing masks?:
“Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump,” he said. “PEOPLE ARE FED UP!” (emph. added)
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tulc(just curious) :wave:
 
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Mask are used to scare people....lure them into a false sense of security.
No, masks are to prevent people who have the virus from spreading it to those who do not. Many of those who died from the virus would be alive if people had been wearing masks.
 
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True, some are, like these ones:

or this one by Tom Savini

but these ones? I'm hard pressed to see what's scary about them:

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...or they're just something we can do to help stop the spread of the virus. :wave:
tulc(isn't sure why trying to keep the people around us safe seems to scare so many people) :sorry:

Look at you...scared to go out. PEOPLE ARE DIEING!!!! But, but, but...lookie at me...I'm safe with my mask.

BTW, what's the protection factor of your flimsy, leaky mask? Do you even know?
 
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Look at you...scared to go out. PEOPLE ARE DIEING!!!! But, but, but...lookie at me...I'm safe with my mask.

BTW, what's the protection factor of your flimsy, leaky mask? Do you even know?
Try reading post 26.
 
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No, masks are to prevent people who have the virus from spreading it to those who do not. Many of those who died from the virus would be alive if people had been wearing masks.

Close to half the people were in nursing homes. Many of those people would be alive today if they wern't sent to nursing homes. Many people would be alive today if they were given HCQ and Zinc...or other drugs.

The numbers would also be a lot lower if they counted correctly.

Nurse...Hey, Mr Smith just died of kidney failure...
Doc...Was he tested for Chinese Corona Virus?
Nurse...no, but, he did cough a couple of times yesterday.
Doc...OK, cause of death was C19.
 
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Close to half the people were in nursing homes. Many of those people would be alive today if they wern't sent to nursing homes. Many people would be alive today if they were given HCQ and Zinc...or other drugs.

The numbers would also be a lot lower if they counted correctly.

Nurse...Hey, Mr Smith just died of kidney failure...
Doc...Was he tested for Chinese Corona Virus?
Nurse...no, but, he did cough a couple of times yesterday.
Doc...OK, cause of death was C19.
This is what people do when they don’t have an answer—they ignore the initial statement.

The fact is that wearing masks can greatly reduce the spread of the virus. Try addressing that.
 
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This is what people do when they don’t have an answer—they ignore the initial statement.

The fact is that wearing masks can greatly reduce the spread of the virus. Try addressing that.

No problem...


In the USA there are about 40,000 supermarket/grocery stores.

This video shows how a cough or sneeze cloud can spread in a supermarket.

[VIDEO]

The answer is wear a mask...it'll stop the spread.

But do mask work? This video shows what happens when we cough. Around the 2:10 min mark you can see the demonstration with a mask being used.

[VIDEO]

Yes the cloud was restrained...but despite the mask it still was violently released and escaped the protection of the mask.

Next point...

Protection factor of masks.

In this like you can see the assigned protection factor of different kinds of masks. It is from OSHA

Scroll down to page 5.

The mask generally wore in our supermarkets...lowes, Home Depots, Targets, Coscos, etc. has a protection factor of 10. Note: It also must be fit tested to obtain the protection factor.

What does a protection factor of 10 mean?

The following article tells us....An APF of 10 means that no more than one-tenth of the contaminants to which the worker is exposed will leak into the inside of the mask. An APF of 100 means only an one percent leakage.

The medical N95 mask is supposed to filter out 95% of the contamination. The key...when fitted properly. Proper seal around the mask.

What is the true protection factor of a mask that has a leak around the nose bridge or cheeks? What if the edge of a mask is on top of a beard or other facial hair? What is the protection factor of a bandana worn like a cowboy robbing a train?

This post so far has demonstrated the large population the mask are worn in....how the sneeze cloud can spread...and the low protection factor and even lower protection of a mask worn unproperly. (leaking severely)

The question I have is considering the above, why do we not see the covid-19 virus spreading like wildfire in our supermarkets? One answer maybe it is because we may only go once or twice a week. What about the supermarket employee who is there everyday stocking shelves of our 40,000 supermarkets...possibly in a in a cough or sneeze cloud or tending the cash register. Why has there been no major outbreak reporteds in the supermarkets?

Do they wash their hands often? Think of all of the produce, jars, boxes and packages those employees touch...everyday.

Something seems fishy concerning this virus. What’s the real scoop?


More numbers....

The size of a virus is about 0.000125 mm
The hole in a N95 mask fabric is about 0.000300 mm.

How does a mask stop a virus that has holes 2.4 times bigger than the virus?

Perhaps if the virus is part of a droplet and the droplet is bigger than 0.000300 mm...but not all of the virus is attached to droplets.
Maybe several layers many help....but the mask still has holes.



Does That Face Mask Really Protect You?

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Three types of commonly available face masks were tested: a surgical mask, a pre-shaped dust mask, and a bandana. An N95 respirator was tested as the positive control.
 
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Let's see...one of your attechments says that it is irresponsible to not wear a mask. Do you review these before you post them? Your last article dates from 2010. That is ancient history in medical terms.

Perhaps this article released by the CDC in late June is more applicable: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
 
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Look at you...scared to go out. PEOPLE ARE DIEING!!!! But, but, but...lookie at me...I'm safe with my mask.
I see you always seem to ignore the (oft repeated in this thread) point that we don't wear a mask because we're afraid of getting the virus we wear it to try and prevent us unknowingly giving it to others. But I do understand why you do that, your narrative makes you "THE BRAVE HERO WHO IS STANDING UP FOR OUR FREEDOM!!!" (tm) instead of just someone who doesn't care if he makes others sick. :sigh:


BTW, what's the protection factor of your flimsy, leaky mask? Do you even know?
Sure I know, it's 100% more protective then someone who's not wearing one. :wave:
tulc(thought that was pretty obvious)
 
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That's not what he said, and you're smart enough to know it.
So you keep saying, but the quote was right there in the OP. If you can point out how it supports wearing a mask instead of being glad to not have too, I'd be interested in hearing it. :wave:
tulc(is just curious)
 
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A lot of people in offices of power and control over whats happening with Covid19.... are at the mercy of what the so called experts tell them to do.

Ive heard that masks are good... Masks are useless unless used properly and nobody knows how to wear them proplerly.. if you don't touch them, take them down every 5 minutes, put them on your chin, your forehead... just over your mouth, just over your nose.

Some say sun kills it..
Some say sun won't..
Some say washing your mask works.. others say you must boil it.
Some say it's for you to protect others from you.. but others say it's to protect you from others...

Some say it will travel 20 feet, others say 3 feet is fine..
Some say it lives on surfaces for days or weeks...

Who knows....

How does anyone in a position to give reports to the public ever go without supporting something that later is totally presented as wrong?

Hey Tulc...Would you, just as quickly, slam a democrat for doing something like this? Or is it just because the dude was a Republican?

You do realize that the Democrats are trying to do away with anything that is American, free, and glorifies the rights and liberties that the veterans of your country fought for ... right?

They even want to do away with Mount Rushmore..... I mean..... seriously... Half the people interviewd by one guy didn't even know what country it was in... but... it must go...
 
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