Are Rapture Dreams Increasing?

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God hasn't told me when the rapture is, I mean He didn't even tell His Son so some of you guys are really privileged.


While this is true, there still cannot be a rapture without it involving Christ coming back. The question is, is the rapture meaning before the great trib or after?

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming(parousia) of the Son of man be.

If verses 22-26 are meaning during the great trib, doesn't it stand to reason that the coming in verse 27 is meaning after the great trib, then?

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming(parousia) of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

Should one wrongly assume that the Son of Man and the Lord, that these are not referring to the same person? Where does Matthew 24:27 logically place the timing of 1 Thessalonians 4:15? Before the great trib, or after?
 
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While this is true, there still cannot be a rapture without it involving Christ coming back. The question is, is the rapture meaning before the great trib or after?

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming(parousia) of the Son of man be.

If verses 22-26 are meaning during the great trib, doesn't it stand to reason that the coming in verse 27 is meaning after the great trib, then?

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming(parousia) of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

Should one wrongly assume that the Son of Man and the Lord, that these are not referring to the same person? Where does Matthew 24:27 logically place the timing of 1 Thessalonians 4:15? Before the great trib, or after?
Mat 24:27-32. Where are the people/saints collected from who come with the Lord ? Read it please. All those are coming with Him in his glory. When ? Read this as many times as it takes to form a good solid word picture.

1 Thess 4:15-17. Who comes to the clouds with Jesus and and a shout? How many are there who are they ? And then who harpazo to meet Him in the air, from where do they come ? Go read it please.

Now reconcile how those two things are the same event and over how long a time period..
 
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People have been convinced of the end in their lifetime since the first generation that an end was proclaimed.

Best to be found doing as you should upon His return than to be found having spent all your time trying to decipher when He will return.

It is always beneficial to know the season, but if you spent more time pondering the harvest than tending to the fields, what will it matter when the rains come, for all you will have is mud.
 
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People have been convinced of the end in their lifetime since the first generation that an end was proclaimed.

Best to be found doing as you should upon His return than to be found having spent all your time trying to decipher when He will return.

The key is not to spend ALL one's time on it. But it's right to spend SOME time on it. Not where one seeks to put down a day or hour but to get a feel of the season. Even Jesus encouraged us to do that.

It is always beneficial to know the season, but if you spent more time pondering the harvest than tending to the fields, what will it matter when the rains come, for all you will have is mud.

And I'd say part of tending the fields and winning people to the Lord is to tell people Jesus is coming soon.
 
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I'd imagine fantasies of escape would increase during a plague.
I'm curious as to whether that was an increase in such dreams back in the Spanish Flu pandemic. Not really sure how to go about researching that, though.

Such dreams probably wouldn't involve the rapture, though, as I believe that doctrine only got more popular later on in the 20th century, but some other kind of apocalyptic dream would do.
 
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I'm curious as to whether that was an increase in such dreams back in the Spanish Flu pandemic. Not really sure how to go about researching that, though.

Such dreams probably wouldn't involve the rapture, though, as I believe that doctrine only got more popular later on in the 20th century, but some other kind of apocalyptic dream would do.
Yeah, that sounds about right. I recall my body prophesying the end of the world once just because I was hungry.
 
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I'd imagine fantasies of escape would increase during a plague.
So you acknowledge that Rapture Dreams could be increasing due to the stress of the day maybe effecting the mind. Do you consider it possible that God is actually giving people some dreams as well in order to warn people to get ready?
 
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So you acknowledge that Rapture Dreams could be increasing due to the stress of the day maybe effecting the mind. Do you consider it possible that God is actually giving people some dreams as well in order to warn people to get ready?
Well, technically - we're always supposed to be ready.

So nothing would change in that regard.
 
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I thought I'd post a few different Rapture Dream testimonies in the thread. I certainly can't claim all or everyone of them are legit meaning actually from God. That's not to say they didn't have the dream however. I do find some of them quite interesting and they do inspire one to walk closer to God.

 
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I'm curious as to whether people are noticing a great increase of people claiming to be having dreams about the rapture? If you type in Rapture Dreams on youtube you'll see a great many claims and their stories of dreams people feel God has given them of the event.

What do others here feel about this? What are the possibilities here? They'd have to be I'd say,

1) God actually did give them what they say.

2) The genuinely did have a dream about the rapture but could be just like many dreams we might have....not necessarily from God but just a dream l Or, 3....

3) They're just willingly making up a story to get hits on line and to tell a tall tale.

Here's the thing....I don't recall through the last number of years seeing near the many reports of such dreams at least on things like youtube. There's always been some but it really seems like an uptick in these claims. I recall back in the 1970's when the first rapture movie films were made...."Thief in the Night" and a few others as well.....people I knew started having rapture dreams of the Lord's return. From God? Or rather come about because of the subject and theme thy were mediating on. I will say from the people I knew their experiences really did highly motivate them to serve God and inspired them. The fear and concern was not to be left behind!

Having listened to a great many of the current rapture dreams being reported there's some I think are more than likely the person just had an ordinary dream but there's quite a few which I find quite startling, meaning I believe they probably have been from God. One thing that really stands out to me is they're describing a lot of them the rapture in a different way then you'd see in most rapture movie films. Great cataclysmic things like meteorites falling and a great earthquake at the very moment the event occurs. Not to get into actual theology here but their description to me seems to line up with Rev 6 & 7!

The common thread they all have in their stories is that Jesus (according to many of them) has said the he is coming back VERY SOON, and not just soon but LOOK....VERY, VERY SOON!
Funny thing is a lot of people having these aren't the great preachers of the day....but common ordinary folk.....which if their experiences are genuine would say God is wanting to use all members of his body that he wants to give multiple individuals things to share.

Now a lot of those giving testimony are relatively young in age. Could this be because young people are more technically savvy and know how to get a message out? As to whether all their dreams truly came by providence I can't say for a fact. They are however VERY inspirational and the passion by which they share is quite impressive. One in particular I believe it was a young lady was describing her rapture dream and her exhortations for all to wake up truly is moving for all to see. She spoke along the lines, "Look all the many things we worry and stress about on earth really mean nothing, NOTHING, NOTHING! When you see what takes place at the rapture THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY THING that will matter to you is your being in right relationship with Jesus!"

So ANY thoughts on these things? And has ANYBODY reading this ever had such an experience? Of course some things might have been just an ordinary dream of things but has anyone felt they experienced one truly from God? Most certainly if a dream goes way beyond and outside the word of God you set aside the dream as being non important but has anyone had something they thought was genuine? Like to read about it.

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I'm cautiously studying the latest claims on youtube these days. I didnt have a dream but I have reason to investigate. God's perfect will and timing no matter!
 
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A group of testimonies about Rapture Dreams,

I have noticed lot of consistency in how people describe the trumpet as both phenomoly loud and yet low in tone and how Jesus is recognizable in the clouds but not in sharp focus for various reasons. Interesting stuff for sure.
 
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