Instagram brands Christian worship ‘harmful’

John Helpher

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You don’t know it’s inaccurate or did not happen. Got proof it is?

Well, you said you didn't know.

I posted the only video I found related to the topic. I did not say it was positively the video.

Several people have questioned the content of the video which caused it to be removed, but the it seems that video wasn't even removed and that there was some indication that perhaps two different videos got shuffled around.

When you were pushed on that, you said you were only posting stuff that you thought was interesting, that you weren't the originator of the content, and that people should not "nipping at your heels" regarding the veracity of the information, though you posted it with the comment, "shocking truth"; that was your attribution to the content of the article.

So, on the one hand you're stoking outrage about Christians being persecuted, and when you're asked to be accountable for the integrity of the information, suddenly you don't know anything; you're just some person posting on the internet...

...which is exactly the problem when it comes to misinformation.
 
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Well, you said you didn't know.



Several people have questioned the content of the video which caused it to be removed, but the it seems that video wasn't even removed and that there was some indication that perhaps two different videos got shuffled around.

When you were pushed on that, you said you were only posting stuff that you thought was interesting, that you weren't the originator of the content, and that people should not "nipping at your heels" regarding the veracity of the information, though you posted it with the comment, "shocking truth"; that was your attribution to the content of the article.

So, on the one hand you're stoking outrage about Christians being persecuted, and when you're asked to be accountable for the integrity of the information, suddenly you don't know anything; you're just some person posting on the internet...

...which is exactly the problem when it comes to misinformation.
We are here to learn and discuss. Obviously nobody knows at this point but I think it will come out eventually. I did not post it to “stoke outrage.” I always check what ever I post is not just from a single source. It’s for discussion and learning. I’ve made myself clear. If you think it’s nonsense then just say so. But do not try to “stoke outrage” by saying I’m actively lying and pushing things I knowingly think are false under the guise of items of interest for discussion. I do not knowingly post lies. Because that’s pretty much what you are inferring. Thanks.
 
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John 15:18-25

We are told multiple times the world will hate us because it hates the one that we are supposed to follow.

Shock level that a worldly company would side with worldly people. 0 on a scale of 1-10.

If you expect to be liked by the world..... read the warnings that you wont be liked again. We can choose the world, or we can choose Christ.

For those two choices there is also warning.
Mark 8:36

The world, will always do what the world does, love the darkness, want to remain in that darkness, for it hates the light.

IF one is truly walking in love and in light, the world will hate them. It will "love" them as long as they recieve something worldly, as it loved Jesus when He offered healing and food....... but when the offer was of righteousness.... they wanted to kill Him.

If the world loves us, we shoukd really question ourselves as to why.

Is it because, we are just like the world and should wonder about our salvation... or is it because we offer material gain. Have we sacrificed the principles and truths of our Father to be more pleasing to those around us?

That is not to say that IF you are hated, that you are right with God. There is a right way to bring the truth, light, love AND word of God to the world.... being a jerk beating them over the head with it, is NOT walking in love.

I can love someone I disagree heavily with. I can remain firm, in my stance, but gentle in my dealings with one that has the same creator as I, that is lost, as too was I. Compassion to the fact they are blind and do not know what they do.

I DO believe that MANY "Christians" out there use the sins of others as an excuse to justify their own hatred of that group... or people in general.

1 John 4:20

It is a heart issue that many excuse, twisting the word of God to justify the unchanged state of their own heart.

There are things that ARE wrong that would give the world plenty if ammo to claim it as "hate" but IF we walk in love... we wont lash out returning hate for hate, but countering hate with love, just as the one we claim to follow......

John 18:23

If we lash out, the world has plenty more ammo to accuse us of hate... because we responded back with it.

Are there times to be angry?

Absolutely, but it is ONLY right when that anger is righteous anger. Righteous anger, rarely is righteous if we are mad becase WE are under attack, not because someone attacks the house of our Father.
 
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Obviously nobody knows at this point but I think it will come out eventually.

That's not what you said in your OP, though. This is what you said:

The headline to this article is not sensationalistic. It is not click bait. It is truth. Shocking truth.

You called it shocking truth. Why would you call it shocking truth in one post, and the pretend like no one knows what's happening when you're called out on the details? That is the substance of fake news.

I did not post it to “stoke outrage.”

But you did. You literally said that's why you were posting. Here's a direct quote from your OP:

Let the outrage be felt and heard.

I always check what ever I post is not just from a single source.

But Spargamos fact-checked your information by searching instagram; the video you said was taken down was still up.

You can verify this from post number #76

Your immediate response was...

Well we’ll find out eventually I’d imagine.

Spargamos gave you factual information, and your response was a rather weak appeal to an imagination about someday finding out the truth? Why not just acknowledge the facts as presented when they are presented? You just made a boast about how you verify from more than one source, yet here you are imagining that someday people may find out the truth regarding information you've already asserted as factual, as though you had nothing to do with encouraging people to be outraged about information you yourself now distance yourself from?

This is exactly the problem with fake news. No wonder you appealed to personal hurt and offense at being caught out; it's the classic victim card being played. I mean, there really are victims in the world; people really do hurt one another and we should be wise enough to recognize when that hurt is genuine; but you're taking advantage of that situation right now by pretending that being called out on B.S. is you being made a victim.
 
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I find your thread and OP to be misleading and harmful. You should think twice before posting stuff like this. There's lot's of fake news out there.
Yeah okay. Don’t check Sean Feucht’s twitter then. It might give you the vapors. ;)
 
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