Trump administration now says he was not told Russia was paying bounties to kill U.S. soldiers in Af

disciple Clint said:

Well if Marxism, or Socialism or Communism is what the values of this nation are then we are moving in the right direction. Some of us do not want to go along for the ride, we believe in this nation and the values that should be held by it citizens.

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American conservatives roll out the "Marxism, Socialism, Communism" bogymen whenever they lack the facts to mount a convincing rebuttal!

In 2016 the Democrats received over 3 million more ballots than their Republican counterparts in the presidential popular vote, Trump and his supporters with their sense of "entitlement" aren't the least bit interested in the wishes of the American public!

jgarden said:

American conservatives roll out the "Marxism, Socialism, Communism" bogymen whenever they lack the facts to mount a convincing rebuttal!

In 2016 the Democrats received over 3 million more ballots than their Republican counterparts in the presidential popular vote, Trump and his supporters with their sense of "entitlement" aren't the least bit interested in the wishes of the American public!

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yes we can ask Hillary all about the popular vote but then there are 5 other presidents who were elected without winning the popular vote so it is not just an "entitlement" for Trump. I do not see how anyone watching what is going on in our nation could possibly miss the facts that Marxism, Socialism, Communism are on the in our near future if the liberals have their way. They are not even trying to hide the Socialist agenda.

The Barbarian said:

Speak for yourself. Americans are moving in another direction. Ironically, if socialism grows in America, it will be the legacy of Donald Trump. Grifter capitalism has done more damage to the concept of free enterprise than anything sociallists could have done. And Trump has done grevious damage to it:

Millennials are simply not that alarmed by the idea of socialism. For instance, a national Reason-Rupe survey found that 53 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds view socialism favorably, compared to only a quarter of Americans over 55. A more recent January YouGov survey found that 43 percent of respondents younger than 30 viewed socialism favorably, compared to 32 percent thinking favorably of capitalism.
Why So Many Millennials Are Socialists

When Trump is touted as the uber-capitalist, young adults realize they want nothing to do with him or anything associated with him. There's a window of opportunity to turn this around, but it's closing.



If you voted for Trump, you put us on the ride.



Trump was mostly elected by those who have lost faith in America.

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Once again I could not disagree with your opinion more. Not everyone hates this nation, there are still people who respect our flag, our laws, and our system of government.

disciple Clint said:

Once again I could not disagree with your opinion more. Not everyone hates this nation, there are still people who respect our flag, our laws, and our system of government.

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Amen! There is still a Military Force composed of men like my grandpa, dad, and I that are, to this day willing to go forward and get the body hell recked, bent, w3ith parts of us left "Over There" to keep our women and children free.

disciple Clint said:

yes we can ask Hillary all about the popular vote but then there are 5 other presidents who were elected without winning the popular vote so it is not just an "entitlement" for Trump. I do not see how anyone watching what is going on in our nation could possibly miss the facts that Marxism, Socialism, Communism are on the in our near future if the liberals have their way. They are not even trying to hide the Socialist agenda.

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With all due respect, its not those whom you label as "Marxists, Socialists and Communists" that has repeatedly believed the word of Vladimir Putin over that of his 17 intelligence agencies including Putin's denial that set a bounty on the lives of American troops in Afghanistan!

Its not American "liberals" who support taking troops out of Germany and lobbying for Russia to rejoin the G-7 - despite the fact that it continues to occupy parts of the Ukraine!

Its not America's Democratic leaders who advertise that Putin, Xi and Kim Jung-un to be their personal friends and ask them to influence re-election efforts according to this President's own former National Security Adviser!

Its not the so-called "Marxists, Socialists and Communists" in America who have been accused of having "all roads lead to Putin" or along with Moscow Mitch failed to provide leadership to ensure that the 2020 Election is free of "foreign" interference!

It not the Democrats who have numerous unexplained contacts with the Russians!

The Barbarian said:

Fewer and fewer every day, looking at the polls. Which is really good news.

As you know, many people were arguing that police didn't have to follow laws, and that no one had the right to take a knee instead of stand for the flag. Both of those are intrinsically anti-American ideas, which are now losing most of whatever support there was for them.

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You said "many people were arguing that police didn't have to follow laws" I say show me the evidence.

jgarden said:

With all due respect, its not those whom you label as "Marxists, Socialists and Communists" that has repeatedly believed the word of Vladimir Putin over that of his 17 intelligence agencies including Putin's denial that set a bounty on the lives of American troops in Afghanistan!

Its not American "liberals" who support taking troops out of Germany and lobbying for Russia to rejoin the G-7 - despite the fact that it continues to occupy parts of the Ukraine!

Its not America's Democratic leaders who advertise that Putin, Xi and Kim Jung-un to be their personal friends and ask them to influence re-election efforts according to this President's own former National Security Adviser!

Its not the so-called "Marxists, Socialists and Communists" in America who have been accused of having "all roads lead to Putin" or along with Moscow Mitch failed to provide leadership to ensure that the 2020 Election is free of "foreign" interference!

It not the Democrats who have numerous unexplained contacts with the Russians!

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Do you have any evidence of "It not the Democrats who have numerous unexplained contacts with the Russians!" By the way this president has been harder on Russia than any other president, and he did not send a message to Putin that he can do better for him when the election is over, that was Obama. The facts do not support your post. Trump vs Obama: Who’s Been Tougher on Russia? - American Liberty Report
President Trump is tougher on Russia in 18 months than Obama in eight years

Dan1988 said:

It's been common knowledge, since the begging of the cold war that Russia and the US have both been paying foreigners to kill for them.
They don't advertise this secret strategy, but it is well known by both sides.

Russia suffered massive losses, when the US armed Afghanistan and gave them access to it's satellite's to destroy the Russians. We would be naive, to think the Russia would just forget the 15,000 dead and 35,000 wounded.

Trump is no friend of Russia, but he has to deal with the Devil to avoid an all out nuclear war with the evil empire.

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But when the US was paying a bounty on Russians, Reagan was not claiming to be Andropov's friend or vice versa.

However, I would not be surprised if Trump was not briefed on Russia paying bounties on American lives...at least not briefed so clearly and definitively.

That's because the Intelligence Community within the Beltway is composed of government workers who intend to have careers beyond whichever short-timer is in the White House. They want to have good careers and get promotions and move up their career ladders.

For intelligence analysts, that means getting their reports read at the highest levels, publish or perish. I spent four years in that environment myself. The big prize is getting reports into the Situation Room, briefed to the president.

The problem is that it's the rare president who wants to be briefed that his world view is wrong. The only one of the six presidents I served under who was willing to hear from the Intelligence Community that he was wrong was George HR Bush, and that was because he was from the Intelligence Community himself. Most other presidents could eventually, tactfully, be convinced most of the time, but all the rest resisted at least to some extent information that conflicted with their own agendas and world views.

The White House staff determines what the president sees and what the president doesn't want to see. The Intelligence Community bureaucracy gets the message, and analysts who want a long, successful career will adapt their message accordingly.

The CIA, particularly, had a maddening way of telling the president what he wanted to hear, but caveating it with "...however the converse cannot be discounted." The wimps.

So it's very possible Trump never got a briefing that stated with clear conviction that Russia was paying a bounty on American lives. If he got that briefing at all, it was undoubtedly padded with weaselly caveats...because the analysts knew he didn't want to hear bad things about Russia.

The Barbarian said:

Yes, so hard that Trump ignored all of our intelligence agencies, and took Putin's word that he never tried to interfere in the 2016 election, ignored evidence that the Russians were paying bounties for killing U.S. servicemen, changed the republican platform because Putin didn't like it, and even wanted to bring Russia back into the Group of Seven.

Such backbone!

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wow you found one thing maybe.

The Barbarian said:

Sure:



If the police had followed the law there would have been no problem at all. Instead the person quoted above argued that it wasn't the police violating the law that was the problem. He argued that the citizen asserting his rights was the problem. Would you like to see some more?

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Well since the first investigation cleared the officers, and the second investigation is not completed yet, you are making a totally unsupported leap to conclusions did not follow the law. the statement of one person that indicates that the police were in fact following the law hardly supports "many people were arguing that police didn't have to follow laws" So once again try to provide some kind of evidence for your statements.

disciple Clint said:

You said "many people were arguing that police didn't have to follow laws" I say show me the evidence.

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Since the day I introduced myself to this fresh pile of cow dung asking for evidence, this ¿teacher? or Teacher of obscene fables has presented nothing but Modern Day DNC Manure and every person of logic has been falsely assailed of him. If you get an honest from this Communist Elitest, publish it on every Christian and Conservative Site on the Web, thousands wish to record such event.

RDKirk said:

But when the US was paying a bounty on Russians, Reagan was not claiming to be Andropov's friend or vice versa.

However, I would not be surprised if Trump was not briefed on Russia paying bounties on American lives...at least not briefed so clearly and definitively.

That's because the Intelligence Community within the Beltway is composed of government workers who intend to have careers beyond whichever short-timer is in the White House. They want to have good careers and get promotions and move up their career ladders.

For intelligence analysts, that means getting their reports read at the highest levels, publish or perish. I spent four years in that environment myself. The big prize is getting reports into the Situation Room, briefed to the president.

The problem is that it's the rare president who wants to be briefed that his world view is wrong. The only one of the six presidents I served under who was willing to hear from the Intelligence Community that he was wrong was George HR Bush, and that was because he was from the Intelligence Community himself. Most other presidents could eventually, tactfully, be convinced most of the time, but all the rest resisted at least to some extent information that conflicted with their own agendas and world views.

The White House staff determines what the president sees and what the president doesn't want to see. The Intelligence Community bureaucracy gets the message, and analysts who want a long, successful career will adapt their message accordingly.

The CIA, particularly, had a maddening way of telling the president what he wanted to hear, but caveating it with "...however the converse cannot be discounted." The wimps.

So it's very possible Trump never got a briefing that stated with clear conviction that Russia was paying a bounty on American lives. If he got that briefing at all, it was undoubtedly padded with weaselly caveats...because the analysts knew he didn't want to hear bad things about Russia.

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I don't know if Trump ever claimed to be a friend of Putin, but he still needs to deal with the devil so they may appear to be friends but we know they're actually mortal enemies.

Putin is the leader of the world's biggest Mafia organisation known as the (KGB). He's a brutal dictator and his hands are covered with the blood of 1,000's innocent people, so the man is pure evil. Regan called the Russian Federation an "evil empire", I'm sure Trump still see's it as just that but he has to put on a friendly face for the sake of peace.

The Russians leaders have murdered millions of their own people, so it's no surprise they hate westerners who expose and oppose them.

The US will end up being a Communist dictatorship if Biden gets in, the liberal left are just communists in disguise.