White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says

tulc said:

It wasn't any bother, the argument seemed to be the same groups that hold President Trump to account for his lies didn't hold President Obama to account for his. The fact that President Trump lies so much more than President Obama would also seem to matter.
tulc(is just pointing that out)

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and who is keeping score would also matter

The Barbarian said:

The first accusation I fact-checked:



Well, let's go take a look...


“No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.”


— Obama, Rose Garden, Sept. 12


“We want to send a message all around the world — anybody who would do us harm: No act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America.”


— Obama, campaign event in Las Vegas, Sept. 13


“I want people around the world to hear me: To all those who would do us harm, no act of terror will go unpunished. It will not dim the light of the values that we proudly present to the rest of the world. No act of violence shakes the resolve of the United States of America.”
Obama's Claim He Called Benghazi An 'Act Of Terrorism' - Republican Party of Pennsylvania

You need to clean your presentation up and make sure it's true.

This immediately shows why people trust Obama, and don't trust people who have attacked him. More specifically, it's why Obama has an RCP index approval of 57.5, and Trump has an RCP index approval of 41.2.

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I believe those were later.

tulc said:

White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says

tulc(thought this sounded interesting)

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Well at least we still have that malaria rx. It works everywhere else in the world.

tulc said:

again, that would be reality and the facts.
tulc(kind of thought it mattered how much someone lies)

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Conservatives have many reasons to not trust the reports of liberal organizations. So who decides what is truth and what is lie makes all the difference.

tulc said:

I would point out that this isn't a conservative/liberal thing, this is a true/false thing.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)

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And I would point out that the liberal media and the conservative media do not see things in the same light, so what is or is not a fact is a matter of opinion.

disciple Clint said:

I believe those were later.

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The First one was the day after. It's hard to accept, I know. Your source lied to you. That's what those guys do.

My usual practice still makes sense: "When someone tells you something you really, really want to be true, that's when you need to be most skeptical. Because that's when you're easiest to fool."

disciple Clint said:

And I would point out that the liberal media and the conservative media do not see things in the same light, so what is or is not a fact is a matter of opinion.

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No. That post-modernist dreck that "truth is whatever you make of it" won't work for the real world. There is an objective truth, and Trump lives in constant fear of it.

disciple Clint said:

I would simply point out that Trump get 90% negative coverage from the liberals that are the ones keeping score.

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Sorry, "the fact-checkers are all lying, too" isn't going to fly. At some point, you're going to have to face the facts.

The Barbarian said:

The First one was the day after. It's hard to accept, I know. Your source lied to you. That's what those guys do.

My usual practice still makes sense: "When someone tells you something you really, really want to be true, that's when you need to be most skeptical. Because that's when you're easiest to fool."

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really, when are the posts on here going to reflect your usual practice.

The Barbarian said:

No. That post-modernist dreck that "truth is whatever you make of it" won't work for the real world. There is an objective truth, and Trump lives in constant fear of it.

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wishful thinking, the msm lies and twists everyday. The only thing Trump has to be concerned about is what the lie of the day will be from the msm

The Barbarian said:

Sorry, "the fact-checkers are all lying, too" isn't going to fly. At some point, you're going to have to face the facts.

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And so will you, but I wont hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Sorry, "the fact-checkers are all lying, too" isn't going to fly. At some point, you're going to have to face the facts.

disciple Clint said:

And so will you,

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That's what I'm showing you. Denial won't do you any good at all.

disciple Clint said:

wishful thinking, the msm lies and twists everyday. The only thing Trump has to be concerned about is what the lie of the day will be from the msm

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Sorry, that story isn't working for Trump. As more and more people realize what this country has fallen to, as a result of his bungling, excuses no longer do anything for him.

The Barbarian said:

Sorry, "the fact-checkers are all lying, too" isn't going to fly. At some point, you're going to have to face the facts.



That's what I'm showing you. Denial won't do you any good at all.

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Do you want to go back and read all the things that Obama lied about or do you just want to avoid that and center the attention on Trump.

White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says
The research was the target of a conspiracy theory about the origin of the new coronavirus.
White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says

disciple Clint said:

Do you want to go back and read all the things that Obama lied about

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I'm thinking you probably should deal with the topic at hand. Or do you just want to avoid the topic and present a diversion?

The Barbarian said:

Sorry, that story isn't working for Trump. As more and more people realize what this country has fallen to, as a result of his bungling, excuses no longer do anything for him.

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leave that to the people we will know exactly what they think in November.

The Barbarian said:

White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says
The research was the target of a conspiracy theory about the origin of the new coronavirus.
White House ordered NIH to cancel coronavirus research funding, Fauci says



I'm thinking you probably should deal with the topic at hand. Or do you just want to avoid the topic and present a diversion?

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I responded to your posts which were off topic, what are you supposed to not be correct on your off topic posts?

disciple Clint said:

Do you want to go back and read all the things that Obama lied about or do you just want to avoid that and center the attention on Trump.

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Rumor has it that Barrack Obama's name won't be found on the 2020 ballot so what is the underlying strategy that would justify Trump supporters resorting to this extraneous issue - just like their attacks on Biden's mental fitness, its a reflection of the dwindling number of issues that are available to Republicans when mounting a presidential campaign!