My priest told me a story when a human while on operation table was go out from his body (the soul) and go to the ceiling. Then go to heaven in some forest and meet his dead grandfathers and talked to them. This gave me the idea that the soul is your inner man - the eternal body, with which you can go directly to heaven and life there, without being resurrected.
Maybe we don't need resurrection
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The Bible is very clear, one does not get to God, to heaven without faith in Jesus.
It is also clear that following death we will face judgement.
The problem with near death experiences and out of body experiences is they are all , " near death " the person is still alive and what they report is not the final word on what happens.
The authority we have is the Bible.
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It would be possible and it DOES happen if we die prior to the Resurrection leading to the final judgment.
But our faith envisions the transformation or perfection of our Earthly nature rather than the disposal of it, much like Jesus himself showed his followers on Easter Sunday and thereafter.
He could have come back purely as a ghost, to be sure, and that was what some of the disciples initially thought when they realized who he was, but that was not the plan of Creation and not what lies ahead for us, either.
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We are told through scripture that all , both the good and the evil, will be resurrected. Some to everlasting life and some to everlasting condemnation. Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the first . Be blessed.
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Believe what scripture says. That is your final word.
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A vision or special moment:
2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. 3 And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows— 4 was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
2 Corinthians 12 NIV
Is only a hint or foretaste that gives a partial sense of what is possible, but these visions while in this mortal body are temporary.
You want the permanent one.
All of the answers above are useful.
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This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the light, and doesn't come to the light, lest his works would be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God."
John 3:19-21
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Scripture makes it clear that no resurrection equals no gospel, no salvation, no eternal life, no hope and one is still dead in their sins, etc.......
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Hebrews 9 man is given once to die, then comes judgement.
In revelation it talks of books being opened and they record our deeds, and if our name is not found in the book of life we do not get into heaven.
These are all judgements.
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