Drones that can reforest areas quickly and cheaply?

eclipsenow · Jun 26, 2020

I love this. One drone can plant as many seeds as 10 people, and one pilot can control 10 drones. This means one person doing the work of 100 seed planters - and the drones are firing a diverse selection of tree seed pods into the ground to replant not just trees - but a future biodiverse ecosystem.

Sophrosyne · Jun 26, 2020

Should make it a lot easier to fall asleep in a forest with all the droning sounds.... :sleep:

Christian Sonic Fan · Jun 26, 2020

This is pretty nice. The more trees, the better.

JackRT · Jun 26, 2020

To replant a forest requires seedlings not seeds.

Aussie Pete · Jun 26, 2020

eclipsenow said:
I love this. One drone can plant as many seeds as 10 people, and one pilot can control 10 drones. This means one person doing the work of 100 seed planters - and the drones are firing a diverse selection of tree seed pods into the ground to replant not just trees - but a future biodiverse ecosystem.

Brilliant. God gave us forests to control the climate. It's wonderful to see reforestation programs happening.

Sophrosyne · Jun 26, 2020

JackRT said:
To replant a forest requires seedlings not seeds.

It can be done with seeds but seedlings are a lot more effective IMO.

Gregory Thompson · Jun 26, 2020

JackRT said:
To replant a forest requires seedlings not seeds.

I wonder if they're going to use the seed in a shotgun shell method.

eclipsenow · Jun 26, 2020

JackRT said:
To replant a forest requires seedlings not seeds.

Watch this one then. It shows the special carbon pod that hides the seed from birds and prey and includes all the nutrients and carbon it needs to give a roughly 80% success rate. Old fashioned thinking will not solve this.
2 guys can plant 40,000 trees a day!

Various governments around the world have already signed up for HUGE reforestation projects.

Just shooting a biodiverse mix of trees into the ground will then encourage birds, which eat insects and stuff and then do droppings containing their own nutrients and weeds, and could eventually restore entire ecosystems!

FrumiousBandersnatch · Jun 27, 2020

That's very promising technology, but more important is planting the right trees in the right places and making sure that policies are formulated and implemented with full oversight - unlike in Chile... and making sure that it isn't used as an alternative to carbon cuts and that local populations are not disadvantaged by losing agricultural land and have incentives to protect the planting. The effective amount of CO2 storage is also debatable.

eclipsenow · Jun 27, 2020

Sure, but if biologists are planting not just the right mix of species - but the right amount of gene pool within each species (not just clones of the same spruce again and again and again) - and if they really are local to that region - and if we actually start to build 115 GW of reactors each year as Dr James Hansen says we need to, we may just have a chance.

Also, we need to plant this many trees because Tall Timbers are on the way - we know how to make attractive office and residential skyscrapers out of Cross Laminated Timber now. This one has a prefab concrete core for elevators and stairs, but the majority of the building is timber. There are other buildings that are even more timber. We're talking prefab off site and clipped together like lego on site - 1 floor a day! 4 minutes

Like this inside.

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Ophiolite · Jun 28, 2020

eclipsenow said:
Sure, but if biologists are planting not just the right mix of species - but the right amount of gene pool within each species (not just clones of the same spruce again and again and again) - and if they really are local to that region - and if we actually start to build 115 GW of reactors each year as Dr James Hansen says we need to, we may just have a chance.

Also, we need to plant this many trees because Tall Timbers are on the way - we know how to make attractive office and residential skyscrapers out of Cross Laminated Timber now. This one has a prefab concrete core for elevators and stairs, but the majority of the building is timber. There are other buildings that are even more timber. We're talking prefab off site and clipped together like lego on site - 1 floor a day! 4 minutes

Like this inside.
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So, back to living in the trees.

eclipsenow · Jun 28, 2020

Ophiolite said:
So, back to living in the trees.

Yes - but a high-tech version. ;-)
If they build them right, this could lock up carbon for a century or so. Then the wood at the end can be burned or better biocharred for energy.

Ophiolite · Jun 29, 2020

eclipsenow said:
Yes - but a high-tech version. ;-)
If they build them right, this could lock up carbon for a century or so. Then the wood at the end can be burned or better biocharred for energy.

Clarification: I suspect you may think I considered a return to the trees a bad thing. Not so. If we forget our origins, ignore our roots, we create a world that has a great gyre of plastic waste in the Pacific, a death toll of species generated by our indifference and a hot house of disaster fuelled by our narcissism. I delight in the notion of timber skyscrapers!

eclipsenow · Jun 29, 2020

Ophiolite said:
Clarification: I suspect you may think I considered a return to the trees a bad thing. Not so. If we forget our origins, ignore our roots, we create a world that has a great gyre of plastic waste in the Pacific, a death toll of species generated by our indifference and a hot house of disaster fuelled by our narcissism. I delight in the notion of timber skyscrapers!

There is a humility in accepting we emerged from this biosphere.
There is an arrogance to taking the next steps to protect this biosphere.
The arrogance?
In effect, telling the biosphere we don't need it anymore!
Not in an absolute sense (as of course we need mangroves to generate young fisheries and slow storms, and of course we need a stable climate.)
But in a consumption sense.
We have to divorce ourselves from relying on nature.
We have to decouple from nature to save it.
It's called the Ecomodernist Manifesto.
Many environmentalists are adopting it.
Grab a drink and a snack, and try and read this document which will take about 20 minutes.
ENGLISH — An ECOMODERNIST MANIFESTO

Ophiolite · Jun 30, 2020

eclipsenow said:
There is a humility in accepting we emerged from this biosphere.
There is an arrogance to taking the next steps to protect this biosphere.
The arrogance?

I shall read the manifesto you have recommended and shall attempt to do so with an open mind. However, this will be challenging, since your two introductory remarks/axioms/principles are - in my view - flawed.

We have not emerged from the biosphere, we are still intimately a part of it.
What has emerged from the biosphere - in the sense of an emergent property - is human intelligence. This offers us the opportunity to consciously take responsibility for the condition of he biosphere to the extent that our capabilities allow, always being mindful to protect, not exploit.

Edit: I lean towards E.O.Wilson's Half-Earth project, movingly described in this book.

eclipsenow · Jun 30, 2020

Ophiolite said:
I shall read the manifesto you have recommended and shall attempt to do so with an open mind. However, this will be challenging, since your two introductory remarks/axioms/principles are - in my view - flawed.

We have not emerged from the biosphere, we are still intimately a part of it.

What has emerged from the biosphere - in the sense of an emergent property - is human intelligence. This offers us the opportunity to consciously take responsibility for the condition of he biosphere to the extent that our capabilities allow, always being mindful to protect, not exploit.

Edit: I lean towards E.O.Wilson's Half-Earth project, movingly described in this book.

Hey - that's absolutely an EcoModernist ideal! It's just they might use different language to get there. But the Ecomodernist's talk about Rewilding after we've decoupled so much from earth's systems that we can return vast areas of grazing land to wilderness for the natural biosphere to heal.

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