BLM EXCOMMUNICATED: Priest Denies Communion to All Members of Black Lives Matter

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Whether BLM pubicly endorses violence or not: It follows them whereever they go.

That's what the segregationists said about Martin Luther King. And they had a point...

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"If you insist on exercising your rights, we'll hurt you, and it will be all your fault."
 
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MLK was a socialist, not sure if he was a Marxist socialist but at that time most were. I also agree with the Marxist critique of capitalism.

It was a period when the left were coming to recognize that orthodox Marxism was not able to produce a society that would provided workers with a decent life.

It was a huge issue in France and Italy, when the communists there rejected Soviet direction. It's why China has a fascist-style government, where large corporations have pretty much unlimited freedom, so long as they don't interfere with Government operations or objectives.

Xi sees the future as being one of well-fed, well-housed citizens with no privacy or rights.
 
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"As a priest in the Orthodox Church, it is my duty to ban members of Black Lives Matter from receiving Communion. I will not desecrate the precious Body and Blood of Christ, by allowing it to touch the unclean lips of those who are members of that satanic organization. If they want to take communion, they will have to find some other church.”

"Members of Black Lives Matter need to get on their knees, and ask forgiveness for their participation in this godless movement."

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BLM EXCOMMUNICATED: Priest Denies Communion to All Members of Black Lives Matter
Didn't Yeshua eat with the outcasts?

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Didn't Yeshua eat with the outcasts?

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Sure He did. But why did He do it? To show them the way of repentance and to follow Him. Do you think He was just socializing? Telling them they are are cool? No problems? ;)
 
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Didn't Yeshua eat with the outcasts?

Matthew 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say: Behold a man that is a glutton and a wine drinker, a friend of publicans and sinners. And wisdom is justified by her children.

He seems to have preferred the company of admitted sinners to the holier-than-thou crowd.

Go figure.
 
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You really missed that one...

“There can be no justice without peace, and there can be no peace without justice.” — Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Where did you think that came from? It's not a threat; it's a statement of fact.



Racists opposed MLK for the same reason racists oppose BLM now. For the same reasons.

But just as there are some black fringe groups that advocate violence, and therefore oppose BLM, so were there black groups then who advocated revolution, and opposed MLK. And there were surely people who opposed MLK for tactical or other reasons not related to racism.

But mostly racists, yeah.

Racists have come to terms with MLK, but any group that wants to address the systemic racism still in existence, seems to make them cross-eyed with fury.

No justice no peace is an ultimatum that has been vandalized all over cities with spray paint and is being ignorantly taken out of context of MLK’s intended use. It’s the preferred war cry for rioters and looters that they use in an attempt to justify their unlawful behavior. MLK never advocated such behavior unlike BLM who encourage it.
 
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This concept, that justice is necessary in the path to true peace, is one I've only recently come to appreciate and understand. I understood it first in the context of gender issues, but it applies to racial justice and elsewhere.

Like many women, I was socialized to smooth things over all the time. The priority in any social situation is to calm everybody down, to soothe everyone's anger, to say or do the right thing so that everybody will stop crying or yelling or whatever. And then we all sit down and we're nice and polite again.

There's a place for that. It makes for civilized family dinners. It calms toddler tantrums. But it can also allow people to hurt other people, over and over, and get away with it -- and be aware that they're always going to get away with it, so they don't have to change anything about their behavior.

That's where justice comes in. To have true peace, true reconciliation, there has to be an effort to stop the repeated hurting. Without that, we're not really at peace with one another.

Amen that’s how brother Martin put it exactly.
 
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No justice no peace is an ultimatum that has been vandalized all over cities with spray paint and is being ignorantly taken out of context of MLK’s intended use. It’s the preferred war cry for rioters and looters that they use in an attempt to justify their unlawful behavior. MLK never advocated such behavior unlike BLM who encourage it.

Show us that BLM has encouraged looting, vandalism, or violence. As you learned earlier, far-right groups have attempted to disrupt protests with such actions, but so far, no leader from BLM has advocated or condoned it.

I'm sure you're not part of those groups doing it, but you seem to have been taken in by their attempted deception.
 
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Show us that BLM has encouraged looting, vandalism, or violence. As you learned earlier, far-right groups have attempted to disrupt protests with such actions, but so far, no leader from BLM has advocated or condoned it.

I'm sure you're not part of those groups doing it, but you seem to have been taken in by their attempted deception.

I haven’t seen them condemn the rioting & looting either. Perhaps they should better define their slogan no peace no justice to their followers.
 
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Show us that BLM has encouraged looting, vandalism, or violence. As you learned earlier, far-right groups have attempted to disrupt protests with such actions, but so far, no leader from BLM has advocated or condoned it.

I'm sure you're not part of those groups doing it, but you seem to have been taken in by their attempted deception.

I haven’t seen them condemn the rioting & looting either.

And you think that, even if it were true, would justify your accusations? Seriously?

The founder of St. Paul’s Black Lives Matter chapter denounced the violent protesters who blocked a major interstate and attacked police officers Saturday night in the Twin Cities, saying they did a disservice to the officers trying to maintain order and that their actions did nothing to further the group’s goals.


Rashad Turner, who leads Black Lives Matter in St. Paul, tells TIME that he blames much of the violence on people who he says weren’t from the area.


“There were people outside of the community I didn’t recognize,” he says. “They were doing stupid stuff, and it’s something we don’t tolerate.”
Black Lives Matter Leader Condemns Violence at St. Paul Protest

Fox News and the other far-right media hide that, of course.


Perhaps they should better define their slogan no peace no justice to their followers.

Perhaps you should avoid accusations, unless you know them to be true?
 
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Apparently the smear policy is being orchestrated from the top:

Fact check: Dishonest Trump video twists Democrats' quotes to make it sound like they endorsed riots
Fact check: Dishonest Trump video twists Democrats' quotes to make it sound like they endorsed riots - CNNPolitics

But who is actually killing police?

Suspect in killing of 2 Bay Area officers tied to right-wing ‘boogaloo’ group, prosecutors allege
OAKLAND —
When sheriff’s deputies searched a white van on June 6 in a wooded hamlet in Santa Cruz County, they found ammunition, firearms, bomb-making equipment — and a ballistic vest with a curious patch.

The patch contained an igloo and Hawaiian-style print, markings associated with a growing, extremist, anti-government movement aimed at fomenting unrest and civil war.

On Tuesday, federal law enforcement officials announced that they were charging Air Force Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, the alleged owner of that vest, and suspected accomplice Robert A. Justus Jr., 30, of Millbrae in the May 29 shooting death of a federal security officer in Oakland.

Officials said Carrillo, who also faces state charges in the June 6 killing of a Santa Cruz sheriff’s deputy, was a follower of the “boogaloo” movement, which a federal complaint said is not a fixed group but includes people who identify themselves as militia and target perceived government tyranny.
Suspect in killing of 2 Bay Area officers tied to right-wing 'boogaloo' group, prosecutors allege





 
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Here are prime examples of BLM leadership.

The founder of St. Paul’s Black Lives Matter chapter denounced the violent protesters who blocked a major interstate and attacked police officers Saturday night in the Twin Cities, saying they did a disservice to the officers trying to maintain order and that their actions did nothing to further the group’s goals.

Rashad Turner, who leads Black Lives Matter in St. Paul, tells TIME that he blames much of the violence on people who he says weren’t from the area.

“There were people outside of the community I didn’t recognize,” he says. “They were doing stupid stuff, and it’s something we don’t tolerate.”
Black Lives Matter Leader Condemns Violence at St. Paul Protest

A photo has gone viral showing a group of mostly black men linked arms to protect a lone Louisville Metro police officer who was separated from his unit when protests turned violent in the city last week in response to the deaths of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd.

The white officer, shown wearing a helmet, face shield, and bulletproof vest, stood in front of Bearno’s By-the-Bridge, a pizza chain restaurant near the Second Street Bridge and the Yum Center.

A group of men, reportedly the initial protest organizers, wore face masks and linked arms to prevent other members of the crowd from reaching the officer while he waited for his squad to return, the Louisville Courier-Journal reported.
Viral photo shows Louisville cop protected by black protesters when separated from squad during riot

Here are some prime examples of right-wing behavior in the protests:

'Boogaloo' suspects accused of trying to 'incite violence' at George Floyd protest in Vegas, feds say
'Boogaloo' suspects accused of trying to 'incite violence' at George Floyd protest in Vegas, feds say


White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence - CNN

Russian Trolls Were Obsessed With Black Lives Matter
On Thursday, Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee released a trove of about 3,500 Facebook and Instagram ads purchased by Russian operatives to influence the 2016 election and exploit and attempt to worsen America’s polarized political climate in the months that followed. The ads reveal a sophisticated campaign clearly aimed at supporting Donald Trump’s presidential bid and inflaming Americans on some of the most divisive social and political issues in the country, like gun control, Islamophobia, immigration, and police violence.
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Perhaps the most striking thing in this batch of ads—other than the Beyoncé campaign—is how fixated the IRA was on racial tensions in general and Black Lives Matter in particular.
Russian Trolls Were Obsessed With Black Lives Matter


Odds are, if you gather in a mass of anti-BLM posts, some it will be from genuine racists, but you'll also be looking at a lot of Putin's political efforts among the real thing.
 
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I personally think that an organization that calls for the deconstruction of the "nuclear family" in favor of "communal living" is inherently immoral, and all those supporting it deserve to be barred from Communion.
 
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I personally think that an organization that calls for the deconstruction of the "nuclear family" in favor of "communal living" is inherently immoral, and all those supporting it deserve to be barred from Communion.

Fortunately, Christians don't see it your way. In fact many of the earliest Christians were communists, holding everything in common.

Acts 2: 42And they were persevering in the doctrine of the apostles and in the communication of the breaking of bread and in prayers.

43And fear came upon every soul. Many wonders also and signs were done by the apostles in Jerusalem: and there was great fervor in all. 44And all they that believed were together and had all things common. 45Their possessions and goods they sold and divided them to all, according as every one had need. 46And continuing daily with one accord in the temple and breaking bread from house to house, they took their meat with gladness and simplicity of heart: 47Praising God and having favour with all the people. And the Lord increased daily together such as should be saved.


As late as the 1900s, there were entire communities of Christians who spent their lives in communal living, such as the Amana colonies, which comprised several towns in Iowa. They didn't even have kitchens in their houses, taking all their meals in communal dining halls. And they would have quite properly laughed at your claim that they were "inherently immoral."

Don't confuse your particular inclinations with God's will.
 
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Fortunately, Christians don't see it your way. In fact many of the earliest Christians were communists, holding everything in common.

Acts 2: 42And they were persevering in the doctrine of the apostles and in the communication of the breaking of bread and in prayers.

43And fear came upon every soul. Many wonders also and signs were done by the apostles in Jerusalem: and there was great fervor in all. 44And all they that believed were together and had all things common. 45Their possessions and goods they sold and divided them to all, according as every one had need. 46And continuing daily with one accord in the temple and breaking bread from house to house, they took their meat with gladness and simplicity of heart: 47Praising God and having favour with all the people. And the Lord increased daily together such as should be saved.

No, they weren't.

See above. God says they were. I believe Him. You should, too.

The Apostles were not social constructionists who believed in arbitrary social roles that could be reconstructed and deconstructed through social engineering.

They were, however, fine with communal living where everything was held in common,with everything divided up according to need. That's God's word.

This period didn't last long as the Apostles went far and wide to establish Bishops (the Episcopacy) and "Presbyters" throughout the world.

So you're saying that God had it wrong at the beginning, and did better, later on? How so?

To imply that anybody who holds to the whole idea of a "nuclear family" is not Christian is grossly offensive,

To suggest that I think so, is a despicable misrepresentation of what I said. I'm sure that on reflection, you'll admit that I never said anything like that, if honesty means anything at all to you.
 
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