The Nile River is not in Egypt / East Africa

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According to this Bible passage, the Nile River has long since dried up and is no more:

"And the waters shall run out of the Nile, and the river shall dry up. And the rivers shall stink, and the channels of Mazor shall be shallow and dry; the reeds and the cane shall wither. The floodplains of the Nile, at the mouth of the Nile, and all the seed-fields by the Nile will wither and be blown away, and will be no more. The fishermen will mourn, and all those who cast their fishing rod into the Nile will mourn; and those who spread the net on the waterside will be desolate. The weavers of linen and the weavers of white linen will be ashamed; their foundations will be shattered, and all the labourers will be grieved in their souls." (Isaiah 19:5)

So how can it be that the river still exists today? The answer to this question is that Msrm, which in almost all Bible translations is translated as "Egypt", is not in Egypt but somewhere else, and so the Nile River of the Bible is not the Nile River of today. (therefore it cannot be in the East African countries either)
 
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According to this Bible passage, the Nile River has long since dried up and is no more:

"And the waters shall run out of the Nile, and the river shall dry up. And the rivers shall stink, and the channels of Mazor shall be shallow and dry; the reeds and the cane shall wither. The floodplains of the Nile, at the mouth of the Nile, and all the seed-fields by the Nile will wither and be blown away, and will be no more. The fishermen will mourn, and all those who cast their fishing rod into the Nile will mourn; and those who spread the net on the waterside will be desolate. The weavers of linen and the weavers of white linen will be ashamed; their foundations will be shattered, and all the labourers will be grieved in their souls." (Isaiah 19:5)

So how can it be that the river still exists today? The answer to this question is that Msrm, which in almost all Bible translations is translated as "Egypt", is not in Egypt but somewhere else, and so the Nile River of the Bible is not the Nile River of today. (therefore it cannot be in the East African countries either)
A river can dry up and later be revived.
 
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So how can it be that the river still exists today? The answer to this question is that Msrm, which in almost all Bible translations is translated as "Egypt", is not in Egypt but somewhere else, and so the Nile River of the Bible is not the Nile River of today. (therefore it cannot be in the East African countries either)

If Mizraim isn't Egypt, then where is it?
 
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If Mizraim isn't Egypt, then where is it?
"He reasoned that the word H-yrdn, translated in the Hebrew Bible as the River Jordan, was not a river at all but the Tehama mountain ridge that rises sharply from the Red Sea coastal plain. He placed Old Jerusalem, the City of Zion, and the City of David at separate locations, Jerusalem near An Nimas south of Taif, and stated that the “Egypt” and “Ethiopia” of the Old Testament mostly did not refer to those countries at all but to two cities named Msrm and Kws (Cush/Kush). These were all situated in the highland area controlling trade routes from Yemen to the north."

if you want more: https://www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/Sheba.pdf
 
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According to this Bible passage, the Nile River has long since dried up and is no more:

"And the waters shall run out of the Nile, and the river shall dry up. And the rivers shall stink, and the channels of Mazor shall be shallow and dry; the reeds and the cane shall wither. The floodplains of the Nile, at the mouth of the Nile, and all the seed-fields by the Nile will wither and be blown away, and will be no more. The fishermen will mourn, and all those who cast their fishing rod into the Nile will mourn; and those who spread the net on the waterside will be desolate. The weavers of linen and the weavers of white linen will be ashamed; their foundations will be shattered, and all the labourers will be grieved in their souls." (Isaiah 19:5)

So how can it be that the river still exists today? The answer to this question is that Msrm, which in almost all Bible translations is translated as "Egypt", is not in Egypt but somewhere else, and so the Nile River of the Bible is not the Nile River of today. (therefore it cannot be in the East African countries either)


LOL!! The Nile is over 4200 miles long!! Most of it is in Africa. This prophecy has not yet come to pass---but it started to about 2 years ago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/03/22/egypt/
 
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...and will be no more...

Will be no more means will be no more.

The Bible frequently speaks with intensity, even with hyperbole, to make the point needing to be made.

The language of judgment is intentionally intense, strong language.

The Nile drying up--the life-blood of Egyptian civilization--is to communicate the death of an empire. And, to be sure, the power of Egypt as it once was is no more. Egypt became an occupied territory beginning with its conquest under the Persian Empire, and then with Alexander's conquest of Persia Egypt fell under Greek occupation, becoming the Ptolemaic kingdom. The Ptolemies who ruled Egypt, including the last of them, Cleopatra, were Greeks. With the death of Cleopatra Egypt fell into Roman occupation, which it remained part of until the Muslim invasions under the Rashidun Caliphate, and a series of later Muslim dynasties and powers, until the Ottoman expansion which held possession of Egypt until the collapse of the Ottoman Empire following the first world war.

Even still, in spite of the intense harsh language of judgment against Egypt, we also see something quite beautiful--Egypt's redemption and healing,

"In that day Israel will be the third with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing in the midst of the earth, whom the LORD of hosts has blessed, saying, 'Blessed be Egypt My people and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel My inheritance.'" - Isaiah 19:24-25

God's judgment against the nations is not the final word of God to the nations, God's final word to the nations is the Gospel, it is Jesus Christ, which is why we read in the Apocalypse,

"Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His servants will worship Him. They will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads." - Revelation 22:1-5

Consider the native Egyptians today, the Copts. Most Copts are Christians, their church is the ancient Church of Egypt which was brought there by St. Mark (the same Mark who was Paul's companion and who is traditionally believed to be the author of the Gospel bearing the same name), the Apostolic See of Alexandria was founded by St. Mark, and the Coptic Orthodox Church continues in holding to the same apostolic faith brought there from the beginning. "Egypt My people" God says.

"After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands," - Revelation 7:9

For the Seed of Abraham, Jesus Christ, is the blessing of the nations; for by His Gospel has His name gone out among all nations, among Jew and Gentile alike, and here is the Church of the Living God, unbreaking and unbreakable.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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..... the collapse of the Ottoman Empire following the first world war.

Actually Britain occupied Egypt in 1882 even though it technically remained a province of the Ottoman Empire. That status ceased with the start of WW1 when it became a protectorate of Britain.
 
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