Is the OFFICE of pope the antichrist?

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Is she a symbol of apostasy?
She also has a reality in an organization that does all that is described in Revelation. She is an entity that with enough prayer, discernment, and insight can be recognized as the "one" who fits the bill. When you bundle up the organizations and start making connections as to the one who influences the most, the one the kings of the earth go to before making powerful decisions, the one who has committed many
luring charming overtures to other entities, which you would normally consider out of character, but because she has done it time and time again like a chameleon all depending on who she wants to resemble, you soon start seeing her for what she really is and what she really is up to.

She amazes vast wealth, political power, all the while claiming the poor life of Jesus Christ while He walked the earth. She can be found in all countries of the world. She works to influence all belief systems to come under her leadership in religious matters. She is the queen to her daughters.
 
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Is the OFFICE of pope of the Roman catholic church the antichrist? I think so, but I can easily be wrong. I think the fatal headwound was when Napoleon took pope captive, Pope died in captivity. The pope is slowly but surely gaining power. I think we will be put back in dark ages just with computer power and modern day ways.

One prophetic verse (i.e. anti-Messiah gains a head wound; Chazon/Revelation 13:3) does not stand alone. Try reading left of the page in your Bible that says, "The New Testament". There is a lot of prophecy concerning the last days and the World to Come.
 
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One prophetic verse (i.e. anti-Messiah gains a head wound; Chazon/Revelation 13:3) does not stand alone. Try reading left of the page in your Bible that says, "The New Testament". There is a lot of prophecy concerning the last days and the World to Come.
I think office of pope recieved head wound when Napoleon took pope captive and he died in captivity.
 
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I think office of pope recieved head wound when Napoleon took pope captive and he died in captivity.

I don't think you're catching what I'm saying here. According to Chazon/Revelation 13, anti-Messiah receives a head wound, yes, but also recovers. From your statement that Napoleon's captive pope died in captivity already shows that he didn't fit the bill.

Again, read the prophesies - all of them - regarding the last days and the World to Come, as well as what the emmisaries in the B'rit Chadashah have to say about that time, and, most importantly, pay attention to what Messiah Yeshua - the Prophet Who Was to come - says about that time. That would be a good start.
 
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I don't think you're catching what I'm saying here. According to Chazon/Revelation 13, anti-Messiah receives a head wound, yes, but also recovers. From your statement that Napoleon's captive pope died in captivity already shows that he didn't fit the bill.

Again, read the prophesies - all of them - regarding the last days and the World to Come, as well as what the emmisaries in the B'rit Chadashah have to say about that time, and, most importantly, pay attention to what Messiah Yeshua - the Prophet Who Was to come - says about that time. That would be a good start.
The office of the pope.
 
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I know my bible there is nothing that contradicts my statement. After antichrist is healed. When there becomes a New pope.

The world wonders after the beast. Which is exactly what happened and is happening even now. The Lord will destroy vatican hill. The city on 7 hills. That is Rome's tourist name.

Drunk on the Blood of the saints. How many were martyred by the pope's in history. There is no other institution in history of mankind that fits the bill for Babylon but the Vatican aka pope. A pope will have world power again like the dark ages.
 
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Hi GedaliahMaegil, welcome to CF! I'm undecided on this subject in the broad sense. In the particular sense, I suspect that you are correct; however, you didn't present a convincing argument. It usually takes a lot of study and understanding to become a Messianic. I've attended several Messianic congregations. I believe that YHWH calls us to put that light on a lamp stand. If you click on the "Forums" tab you can see who is seeking that light at this moment.

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I might not have expressed the technicalities of this quite correctly; but I got the gist of it right.
 
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Hi GedaliahMaegil, welcome to CF! I'm undecided on this subject in the broad sense. In the particular sense, I suspect that you are correct; however, you didn't present a convincing argument. It usually takes a lot of study and understanding to become a Messianic. I've attended several Messianic congregations. I believe that YHWH calls us to put that light on a lamp stand.

Well, I'm not here to argue, anyway. I responded to what I was given, which wasn't much. If a person takes one verse of prophecy and decides to add what isn't written, instead of letting the Scriptures prove each other, I can't really respond to that, except to point to Scripture. The ball remains in Fence's court.
 
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Well, I'm not here to argue, anyway. I responded to what I was given, which wasn't much. If a person takes one verse of prophecy and decides to add what isn't written, instead of letting the Scriptures prove each other, I can't really respond to that, except to point to Scripture. The ball remains in Fence's court.
What have I stated that is unbiblical. Because antichrist has to come on scene. Get wounded reign 3 1/2 years after peace then force the mark set up image. What exactly are you saying? You sure you undetstand? My chronological order is wrong?
 
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The Antichrist is a person who will arise in the Middle East in the latter days. He will come out of the world and will lead it in a war against the Jews in Israel. According to the prophet Ezekiel, he will “come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel.”
 
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Dan 11:38 But he shall worship the god Maozim in his place: and a god whom his fathers knew not, he shall worship with gold, and silver, and precious stones, and things of great price.

Maybe we need to study more to learn who this god is and who follows. Who is "a god whom his fathers knew not"??
 
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Learning about the different characteristics and behavior of the Anti-Christ, goes a long way to giving us clues as to who it really is. Antichrist is recognized as fulfilling the biblical prophecies about one who will oppose Christ and substitute himself in Christ's place before the Second Coming. The term is found five times in the New Testament and all in the First and Second Epistle of John. The Antichrist is announced as the one "who denies the Father and the Son."
 
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