Spurgeons most controversial statement ever.

Neostarwcc said:

For those of you who dont know who Charles Spurgeon is, he was one of the greatest minds and Pastors who ever lived. Even people who didnt subscribe to Reformed theology loved his great mind and ferocity when he preached back in the mid-late 19th century.

I wanted to talk about Spurgeon because I wanted to talk about his most controversial statement ever. It was controversial when he said it and it's still highly controversial today. Thats his famous statement that since there was such a vast multitude of people in the book of life (See Genesis 15:5, Revelation 7:9) that he believed there are going to end up being more people in Heaven than in Hell.

So was Spurgeon right? Are the multitude of people really so vast that it could even surpass our wildest dreams?

I say perhaps. I mean after all, Reformed theology (and Protestant theology in general) is growing at a now alarming rate. Nearly one tenth of today's global Protestants are in fact, Reformed. Not that Reformed theology or Protestantism saves I'm not trying to claim that. Salvation is purely a work of God and God's sheep come from all across the globe. I'm just saying that more and more people are accepting the gospel and are ever evolving on the right interpretations of scripture than ever before in history. Either the five points of Calvinism or the five points of Arminianism are the dominating theologies of Protestantism today. More and more Christian's are accepting the five Solas whether they identify as Protestant or not. Things are just growing at such an alarming rate that its unbelievable.

So yes, it's possible that one of the greatest minds of all time could be right. There could be more people in heaven than in hell. But it will always be speculatory as it is impossible to completely know for sure until we get there. But, what do you think?

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Neostarwcc said:

For those of you who dont know who Charles Spurgeon is, he was one of the greatest minds and Pastors who ever lived. Even people who didnt subscribe to Reformed theology loved his great mind and ferocity when he preached back in the mid-late 19th century.

I wanted to talk about Spurgeon because I wanted to talk about his most controversial statement ever. It was controversial when he said it and it's still highly controversial today. Thats his famous statement that since there was such a vast multitude of people in the book of life (See Genesis 15:5, Revelation 7:9) that he believed there are going to end up being more people in Heaven than in Hell.

So was Spurgeon right? Are the multitude of people really so vast that it could even surpass our wildest dreams?

I say perhaps. I mean after all, Reformed theology (and Protestant theology in general) is growing at a now alarming rate. Nearly one tenth of today's global Protestants are in fact, Reformed. Not that Reformed theology or Protestantism saves I'm not trying to claim that. Salvation is purely a work of God and God's sheep come from all across the globe. I'm just saying that more and more people are accepting the gospel and are ever evolving on the right interpretations of scripture than ever before in history. Either the five points of Calvinism or the five points of Arminianism are the dominating theologies of Protestantism today. More and more Christian's are accepting the five Solas whether they identify as Protestant or not. Things are just growing at such an alarming rate that its unbelievable.

So yes, it's possible that one of the greatest minds of all time could be right. There could be more people in heaven than in hell. But it will always be speculatory as it is impossible to completely know for sure until we get there. But, what do you think?

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Michael Collum said:

I'm kind of wondering what the next fad in the faith will be.

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Victor in Christ said:

I pray it not one where we have to do earthly works to enter heaven.

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SoldierOfTheKing said:

III. By the decree of God, for the manifestation of His glory, some men and angels(f) are predestinated unto everlasting life, and others fore-ordained to everlasting death.(g)

(f) I Tim. 5:21; Matt. 25:41.
(g) Rom. 9:22, 23; Eph. 1:5, 6; Prov. 16:4.

IV. These angels and men, thus predestinated, and fore-ordained, are particularly and unchangeably designed, and their number so certain and definite, that it cannot be either increased or diminished.(h) II Tim. 2:19; John 13:18.

Chapter III, Westminster Confession, "On God's Eternal Decree"

It does not say what that number is, because the Scriptures do not reveal it. Spurgeon is within the bounds of Reformed theology here.

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Neostarwcc said:

For those of you who dont know who Charles Spurgeon is, he was one of the greatest minds and Pastors who ever lived. Even people who didnt subscribe to Reformed theology loved his great mind and ferocity when he preached back in the mid-late 19th century.

I wanted to talk about Spurgeon because I wanted to talk about his most controversial statement ever. It was controversial when he said it and it's still highly controversial today. Thats his famous statement that since there was such a vast multitude of people in the book of life (See Genesis 15:5, Revelation 7:9) that he believed there are going to end up being more people in Heaven than in Hell.

So was Spurgeon right? Are the multitude of people really so vast that it could even surpass our wildest dreams?

I say perhaps. I mean after all, Reformed theology (and Protestant theology in general) is growing at a now alarming rate. Nearly one tenth of today's global Protestants are in fact, Reformed. Not that Reformed theology or Protestantism saves I'm not trying to claim that. Salvation is purely a work of God and God's sheep come from all across the globe. I'm just saying that more and more people are accepting the gospel and are ever evolving on the right interpretations of scripture than ever before in history. Either the five points of Calvinism or the five points of Arminianism are the dominating theologies of Protestantism today. More and more Christian's are accepting the five Solas whether they identify as Protestant or not. Things are just growing at such an alarming rate that its unbelievable.

So yes, it's possible that one of the greatest minds of all time could be right. There could be more people in heaven than in hell. But it will always be speculatory as it is impossible to completely know for sure until we get there. But, what do you think?

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Neostarwcc said:

Not really a new fad. Spurgeon made the statement over 150 years ago. It's just that people are still wondering about what he said and if when he did make it to heaven if his beliefs were confirmed or if he was surprised. While maybe Spurgeon was incorrect about there being more people in Heaven than in hell (it's a possibility) I think when we ALL get to heaven we will be surprised as to just how many people God has saved. I think we will see people there we didnt expect to be there and we will find people who we thought would be there but, found that they did in fact not make it. Dunno I'm probably about 30-40 years from finding out. But when I do find out I think I will be surprised. There are probably more of God's children than I can even imagine.

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Neostarwcc said:

I see people bringing up Matthew 7:14 yet havent quite answered me on the great multitude of people that not only God promised but John saw when he was shown visions of heaven. This multitude is apparently so large that no man can count it. Unless you're claiming that John lied or even that God lied to Abraham. I'm not saying Spurgeon was right or wrong but I am saying you need to look at Matthew 7:14 closer. Otherwise Matthew 7:14 contradicts other major parts of scripture.

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Neostarwcc said:

Not really a new fad. Spurgeon made the statement over 150 years ago. It's just that people are still wondering about what he said and if when he did make it to heaven if his beliefs were confirmed or if he was surprised. While maybe Spurgeon was incorrect about there being more people in Heaven than in hell (it's a possibility) I think when we ALL get to heaven we will be surprised as to just how many people God has saved. I think we will see people there we didnt expect to be there and we will find people who we thought would be there but, found that they did in fact not make it. Dunno I'm probably about 30-40 years from finding out. But when I do find out I think I will be surprised. There are probably more of God's children than I can even imagine.

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WrappedUpinHisLove3 said:

There will be a vast multitude saved. many. Bible says so. But more in Heaven than in Hell, I have no idea. Noone knows but God.

Narrow is the way and few find it and many are claled but few are chosen though does seem to suggest that Christians are a small minority compared to the rest of the world. But only in comparison. I believe all born again will be saved. You have to be born again, of water and p0f the Spirit fo ryou name to be in the Lamb's book of life. Th exception to that would be infants and babies who I beleve have unconditional salvation. In the past, before modern medicine, many children under 5 died.

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