Colossians 2:16

Mr. M · Jun 24, 2020

Hebrews 5:
8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.
9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.

HARK! · Jun 25, 2020

Scott Husted said:
It doesn't say Adam didn't believe in him?

With this statement Eve lost belief in YHWH's word:

(CLV) Gn 3:4
But the serpent said to the woman: Not to die shall you be dying;

(CLV) Gn 3:5
for Elohim knows that ion the day you eat of it your eyes will be unclosed, and you will become like Elohim, knowing good and evil.

Adam followed her in her disbelief.

Scott Husted · Jun 25, 2020

HARK! said:
With this statement Eve lost belief in YHWH's word:

(CLV) Gn 3:4
But the serpent said to the woman: Not to die shall you be dying;

(CLV) Gn 3:5
for Elohim knows that ion the day you eat of it your eyes will be unclosed, and you will become like Elohim, knowing good and evil.

Adam followed her in her disbelief.

She was deceived by the serpent, he disobedient for harkening to the voice of his wife and not keeping the commandment ... it's important to note though that she was not Eve until after God had chastised the one's he loved ...

His fear shows his state of belief ... as it does his transgression.

The (basis of the) language (of God) in picture form shows the progression of a truth/commandment cast down (which (the tail of) a serpent reveals), it was one from innocence to impure, or unclean (earthly minded, one of gain by reason of a famine) ... in his own eyes.

HARK! · Nov 17, 2020

Der Alte said:
A good example of reinterpreting scripture to make it fit one's assumptions/presuppositions.

Paul makes the judgements of those who were practicing of Paganism and Asceticism in Colossae crystal clear in these verses:

(CLV) Col 2:8
Beware that no one shall be despoiling you through philosophy and empty seduction, in accord with human tradition, in accord with the elements of the world, and not in accord with Christ,

Human tradition! Paul is not talking about abandoning YHWH's eternal Moedim, as outlined in his word.

(CLV) Col 2:20
If, then, you died together with Christ from the elements of the world, why, as living in the world, are you subject to decrees:

Elements of the world! Paul is not talking about YHWH's kadosh Torah. The Torah is spiritual.

Why are you subject to decrees? The Greek word here is "dogma," man made worldly human dogma. He's not telling his disciples to ingnore YHWH's word.

(CLV) Col 2:21
"You should not be touching, nor yet tasting, nor yet coming into contact,"

Asceticism!

(CLV) Col 2:22
(which things are all for corruption from use), in accord with the directions and teachings of men?

In contradiction to YHWH's word, to honor his Moedim and Shabbats forever!

RickReads · Nov 17, 2020

This may help clear this up.

Colossians 2:16 Commentaries: Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day--

HARK! · Nov 17, 2020

RickReads said:
This may help clear this up.

Colossians 2:16 Commentaries: Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day--

It was because I reject such commentaries, as they reject YHWH's word; that I wrote my own commentary, which conforms to YHWH's word.

I was hoping that providing the historical context might help those who have difficulty understanding Paul's letters.

Der Alte · Nov 17, 2020

HARK! said:
The operative word.

Wrong! The writings of the ECF are the only history we have of the faith and practice of the early church.
Did the Jews routinely teach Torah to gentiles? Let us consider this from a Jewish source.
It is quite clear that among Jews there was a pronounced abhorrence of gentiles. There is no history that gentiles were routinely welcomed in syngogues.

Jewish Encyclopia-Gentiles
Gentiles May Not Be Taught the Torah.
Inasmuch as the Jews had their own distinct jurisdiction, it would have been unwise to reveal their laws to the Gentiles, for such knowledge might have operated against the Jews in their opponents' courts. Hence the Talmud prohibited the teaching to a Gentile of the Torah, "the inheritance of the congregation of Jacob" (Deut. xxxiii. 4). R. Johanan says of one so teaching: "Such a person deserves death"[gentile who studies Torah] (an idiom used to express indignation). "It is like placing an obstacle before the blind" (Sanh. 59a; Ḥag. 13a). …
Resh Lakish (d. 278) said, "A Gentile observing the Sabbath deserves death" (Sanh. 58b). This refers to a Gentile who accepted the seven laws of the Noachidæ, inasmuch as "the Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel alone," ... Rabbina, who lived about 150 years after the Christians had changed the day of rest to Sunday, could not quite understand the principle underlying Resh Lakish's law, and, commenting upon it, added: "not even on Mondays [is the Gentile allowed to rest]"; intimating that the mandate given to the Noachidæ that "day and night shall not cease" ((Heb.)Lo yshabti = "have no rest ") should be taken in a literal sense (Gen. viii. 22)—probably to discourage general idleness
"The Torah outlawed the issue of a Gentile as that of a beast" (Miḳ. viii. 4, referring to Ezek. l.c.)
Johanan bar Nappaḥa … the Torah was given as a heritage to Israel, a non-Israelite deserves death if he studies it [Torah] (Sanh. 59a).
Gamaliel also expresses himself to the same effect, adding that the Gentiles, by their impure motive, incur the penalty of Gehenna. Eleazar of Modi'im sides with him, saying that "the Gentiles practice benevolence merely to taunt Israel."
Eliezer b. Hyrcanus is …, the mind of every non-Jew is always intent upon idolatry (Giṭ. 45b). The cattle of a heathen is unfit for sacrifices ('Ab. Zarah 23b). Explaining Prov. xiv. 34, he maintains that the non-Jews only practise charity in order to make for themselves a name (B. B. 10b; Pesiḳ. 12b; Gamaliel is credited with the same opinion in B. B. 10b).
Joshua b. Hananiah, … as a rule Gentiles cling to vain things and are rejected (Prov. xxviii. 19; Gen. R. lxxxii.).
Eleazar of Modi'im, in reference to Micah iv. 5, explains that Israel, though guilty of the same sins as the Gentiles, will not enter hell, while the Gentiles will [enter Gehenna] (Cant. R. ii. 1). .. On the whole, he is very bitter in his condemnations of the heathen. "They profit by their deeds of love and benevolence to slander Israel" (referring to Jer. xl. 3;B. B. 10a).
Among Akiba's disciples Tarphon is noted for his antipathy to the Judæo-Christians, whose books he would burn without regard for the name of God occurring therein, preferring the temple of idolaters to them (Shab. 116a).
Simon ben Yoḥai is preeminently the anti-Gentile teacher. In a collection of three sayings of his, beginning with the keyword (Heb.) Shob (Yer. Ḳid. 66c; Massek. Soferim xv. 10; Mek., Beshal-laḥ, 27a; Tan., Wayera, ed. Buber, 20), is found the expression, often quoted by anti-Semites, "Ṭob shebe-goyyim harog" (="The best among the Gentiles deserves to be killed").
On the basis of Hab. iii. 6, Simon b. Yohai argued that, of all the nations, Israel alone was worthy to receive the Law (Lev. R. xiii.). The Gentiles, according to him, would not observe the seven laws given to the Noachidae (Tosef., Soṭah, viii. 7; Soṭah 35b), though the Law was written on the altar (Deut. xxvi. 8) in the seventy languages. Hence, while Israel is like the patient ass, the Gentiles resemble the easy-going, selfish dog (Lev. R. xiii.; Sifre, Deut., Wezot ha-Berakah, 343).
Judah ben 'Illai recommends the daily recital of the benediction. "Blessed be Thou . . . who hast not made me a goi" (Tosef., Ber. vii. 18: Men. 43b, sometimes ascribed to Meir; see Weiss, "Dor," ii. 137). Judah is confident that the heathen (Gentiles) will ultimately come to shame (Isa. lxvi. 5; B. M. 33b).The Gentiles took copies of the Torah, and yet did not accept it (Soṭah 35b).
Eliezer, the son of Jose the Galilean, calls the Gentiles poor "goyyim dawim," because they would not accept the Torah (Mek., Yitro. 62a), referring to Hab. iii. 6 and Ps. cxlvii. 20
Josiah holds that every idolatrous heathen is an enemy of Israel (Mek., Mishpaṭim, 99a).
Jonathan insists that eclipses are of bad augury for Gentiles only, according to Jer. x. 2 (Mek., Bo, 19b).
Simon ben Jose likens Israel to a stone, and the Gentiles to a potsherd (Isa. xxx. 14), applying the proverb: "If the stone falls on the pot, wo to the pot; if the pot falls on the stone, wo to the pot." This he offered as a consolation to persecuted Israel (Esther R. iii. 6).
Hezekiah b. Hiyya deduces from II Kings xx. 18 that he who shows hospitality to a heathen brings the penalty of exile upon his own children (Sanh. 104a).
Johanan bar Nappaḥa … lays stress on the fact that God offered the Law to all nations, who refused to accept it ('Ab. Zarah 2b); therefore while the virus of lust that the serpent injected into Eve was neutralized in Israel, the "nations of the world" still have it in their blood (Shab. 145b; Yeb. 103b; 'Ab. Zarah 22b)…. the Torah was given as a heritage to Israel, a non-Israelite deserves death if he studies it (Sanh. 59a).
Assi is the author of the injunction not to instruct the Gentile in the Torah (Ḥag. 13a).
Tanhuma …likens the nations to wolves and Israel to a lamb (Pesiḳ. R. ix. [ed. Friedmann, p.32a]).
The seven nations in the Holy Land were to be exterminated for fear they might teach the Israelite conquerors idolatry and immoral practises (Deut. vii. 1-6, xviii. 9-14, xx. 16-18);
The Gentiles were so strongly suspected of unnatural crimes that it was necessary to prohibit the stabling of a cow in their stalls ('Ab. Zarah ii. 1).
GENTILE - JewishEncyclopedia.com

HARK! · Nov 17, 2020

Der Alte said:
Wrong! The writings of the ECF are the only history we have of the faith and practice of the early church.

I try to avoid making absolute statements; as I can't make them in good faith in absence of absolute knowledge. I'm humble enough to accept that absolute knowledge is not in my possession. So was Yahshua when he told us that only the Father knows the day and the hour.

Yahshua's actions give us great insight into the faith and practice of the early church, as documented by those who were the to witness it. Paul's letters also gives us insight; but as we know; Paul's can be difficult to understand. Now Peter wasn't an ordinary Apostle of Yahshua. he was one of three of the inner circle, who knew Yahshua better than anyone else. That inner circle was closest to him, and knew things about Yahshua, that no one else knew. Now if Peter says that Paul's letters are difficult to understand; when Peter knew Paul; and Peter knew Yahshua better than Paul; then over 2000 years removed, you can be sure that Paul's letters are difficult to understand. If someone believes that Paul is contradicting the message that Yahshua taught until his dying breath, and even before his ascension; then clearly they do not understand Paul's letters.

While Yahshua's disciples were still alive and teaching; false doctrines were already being spread. I give more weight to Yahshua's words than any so called "church father." Yahshua's words are his father's words. and he said call no man Father.

My Father is YHWH.

That said Josephus is just one other source of historical reference regarding early Christianity.

If we want the absolute truth on how the assembly of Yahshua should behave; we follow Yahshua's example as he followed his Father's Torah.

If we put our faith in men; they will lead us astray.

Der Alte · Nov 18, 2020

Those who ignore their history are doomed to repeat it. I am fairly sure that the Jewish history I quoted accurately reflects the historical Jewish attitude toward Christians.
When we first read about Paul he is persecuting Christians.
And the N.T. does not record any regular attendance by gentile Christians in synagogues.
From Acts to Revelations church is mentioned 114 times, synagogue 25 times. Epistles were written to churches not synagogues. If Christians regularly attended synagogues why were there churches?

HARK! · Nov 18, 2020

Der Alte said:
And the N.T. does not record any regular attendance by gentile Christians in synagogues.

Another faulty assertion.

(CLV) Ac 18:4
Now he argued in the synagogue on every sabbath and persuaded both Jews and Greeks

Acts 13:42
And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

(CLV) Ac 17:17
Indeed, then, he argued in the synagogue with the Jews and with the (ones being) reverent, and in the market on every day with those happening along.

Acts 17:1 they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. 2 Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, 3 explaining and demonstrating that the Christ had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus whom I preach to you is the Christ.” 4 And some of them were persuaded; and a great multitude of the devout Greeks, and not a few of the leading women, joined Paul and Silas.

HARK! · Nov 18, 2020

The stones cry out the truth!

Der Alte · Nov 18, 2020

HARK! said:
Another faulty assertion.
(CLV) Ac 18:4
Now he argued in the synagogue on every sabbath and persuaded both Jews and Greeks
Acts 13:42
And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
(CLV) Ac 17:17
Indeed, then, he argued in the synagogue with the Jews and with the (ones being) reverent, and in the market on every day with those happening along.
Acts 17:1 they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. 2 Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, 3 explaining and demonstrating that the Christ had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus whom I preach to you is the Christ.” 4 And some of them were persuaded; and a great multitude of the devout Greeks, and not a few of the leading women, joined Paul and Silas.

Wrong! Four vss. 4 Greek cities does not show regular attendance of gentile Christians in synagogues and Jewish history certainly does not show gentile Christians regularly attending synagogues that is why they had churches.
Jesus did not say that His followers would be welcome in the synagogues but that they would be persecuted and even killed.

Mark 13:9
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
Matthew 23:34
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
Luke 12:11
11 And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:
John 16:2
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

HARK! · Nov 18, 2020

Der Alte said:
Wrong! Four vss. 4 Greek cities does not show regular attendance of gentile Christians in synagogues and Jewish history certainly does not show gentile Christians regularly attending synagogues that is why they had churches.

Missed one that isn't even mentioned in scripture:

The stones cry out the truth!

Mr. M · Nov 18, 2020

Der Alte said:
Wrong! Four vss. 4 Greek cities does not show regular attendance of gentile Christians in synagogues and Jewish history certainly does not show gentile Christians regularly attending synagogues that is why they had churches.
Jesus did not say that His followers would be welcome in the synagogues but that they would be persecuted and even killed.

Mark 13:9
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
Matthew 23:34
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
Luke 12:11
11 And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:
John 16:2
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

Brothers, there seems to be an apples to oranges disagreement. There most certainly were gentiles
in the synagogues who were converts to Judaism, and heard Paul preach, post#50. Those who heard
and believed, becoming Christians, would most certainly not return to the synagogue, as they
clearly left to hear more of Paul's message, and would no doubt have faced persecution for
accepting the Way, #52. This would indicate a general pattern as Paul preached, the new gentile churches appear to mostly meet house to house, neither in a "church" or a synagogue.

Der Alte · Nov 18, 2020

Minister Monardo said:
Brothers, there seems to be an apples to oranges disagreement. There most certainly were gentiles
in the synagogues who were converts to Judaism, and heard Paul preach, post#50. Those who heard
and believed, becoming Christians, would most certainly not return to the synagogue, as they
clearly left to hear more of Paul's message, and would no doubt have faced persecution for
accepting the Way, #52. This would indicate a general pattern as Paul preached, the new gentile churches appear to mostly meet house to house, neither in a "church" or a synagogue.

I can't determine if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. But if gentiles regularly attended synagogues and strictly followed all the feasts, festivals, holy days, dietary laws etc. then Jesus did not know what He Was talking about.

Mark 13:9
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
Matthew 23:34
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
Luke 12:11
11 And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:
John 16:2
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

Der Alte · Nov 18, 2020

HARK! said:
Missed one that isn't even mentioned in scripture:
The stones cry out the truth!

I usually don't do videos, good way to get a bad virus, but I watched a little of this one. Rather than supporting your position it supports mine. Believers in Yeshua Ha Maschiach were persecuted by the orthodox Jews. The narrator I can't determine if he is Arabic or Jewish.

HARK! · Nov 18, 2020

Der Alte said:
I usually don't do videos, good way to get a bad virus, but I watched a little of this one. Rather than supporting your position it supports mine. Believers in Yeshua Ha Maschiach were persecuted by the orthodox Jews. The narrator I can't determine if he is Arabic or Jewish.

The narrator explains that they were persecuted by Christianity too. If this video was going to give your computer kooties (I doubt that this producer would do something like that) you probably already have them. I would encourage you to finish the video.

HIM · Nov 13, 2021

HARK! said:
Colossians 2:16

(CLV) Col 2:16
Let no one, then, be judging you in food or in drink or in the particulars of a festival, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths,

Colossae is in Southwest Turkey. It's over a 800 mile walk from Jerusalem. There wasn't a strong Jewish presence there, judging the Pagans for eating what Pagans eat, nor drinking what Pagans drink, nor for observing their Pagan holidays.

Let's back up to verse 8.

(CLV) Col 2:8
Beware that no one shall be despoiling you through philosophy and empty seduction, in accord with human tradition, in accord with the elements of the world, and not in accord with Christ,

None of what is bolded has anything to do with following Torah.

Messiah wouldn't be taking part in Pagan holidays. He wouldn't be eating pigs sacrificed to Tammuz. He wouldn't be drinking blood.

Messiah would keep YHWH's appointed times and Sabbaths, even as Paul did, long after Yahshua had ascended.

(CLV) Col 2:21
"You should not be touching, nor yet tasting, nor yet coming into contact,"

(CLV) Col 2:22
(which things are all for corruption from use), in accord with the directions and teachings of men?

YHWH outlined in Leviticus what was given to us for food.

(CLV) 1Co 11:1
Become imitators of me, according as I also am of Christ.

When a believer begins following Paul; as Paul followed Yahshua; as Yahshua followed the Torah; he becomes subjected to pressure from his friends and family, to drag him back into his old ways.

I gave up pork when I was 16. Every time I would visit my grandmother; it was pork, no matter what the meal.
This battle lasted until I was in my mid 30's, after her daughter, my mother, died.

There was resistance when I stopped bringing trees into my home.

(CLV) Jer 10:2
Thus says Yahweh: The way of the nations, do not learn, And by the signs of the heavens, do not be dismayed, Though the nations are being dismayed by them.
(CLV) Jer 10:3
Indeed concerning the statutes of the peoples, it all is vanity, For one cuts it down, a tree from the wildwood, The work of an artificer's hands with an adz;
(CLV) Jer 10:4
With silver and with gold he makes it lovely; With nails and with hammers they fasten it, so that it cannot quaver.

When I stopped celebrating that winter solstice holiday; the resistance continued to intensify.

There is evidence that there was also a strong Gnostic community in Colossae.

(CLV) Col 2:21
"You should not be touching, nor yet tasting, nor yet coming into contact,"

(CLV) Col 2:22
(which things are all for corruption from use), in accord with the directions and teachings of men?—

(CLV) Col 2:23
which are (having, indeed, an expression of wisdom in a willful ritual and humility and asceticism) not of any value toward the surfeiting of the flesh.

Is this about Gnosticism, or is this about avoiding the abominable? One thing that's clear is that the YHWH's Torah does not fall under the directions and teachings of men.

Let's move to the next verse.

(CLV) Col 2:17
which are a shadow of those things which are impending—yet the body is the Christ's.

Here Paul explains that YHWH's Sabbath, and his Moedim (feasts), are a shadow of what is to come; and that the shadow is of Messiah.

Messiah was executed on Passover, without leaven, to begin the Moed of Unleavened Bread. He was risen on First Fruits. He brought us the Ruach Ha'Kodesh on Pentecost, that the Torah may be written on our hearts.

His first coming was connected with the Spring Moedim. His second coming may be connected to the Fall Moedim.

He will return on the final trump. This may be associated with the Feast of Trumpets. He will judge the world. This may be associated with the Day of Atonement. The Feast of Tabernacles may be associated with the wedding feast.

YHWH's moedim are appointements with the Father, and rehearsals.

Paul was encouraging the new converts not to let their Pagan and Gnostic, friends and family, judge them; as they walked near, in the shadow of Messiah, keeping in stride with YHWH's perfect Torah.

Let's turn back a chapter to establish the context of the letter.

We the saints and faithful brethren. Having faith in Christ Jesus and love for all the Holy ones because of the HOPE, the expectation reserved in the heavens for us. The good news, the Gospel which has come into us, bearing fruit. Having been fitted into the portion, the inheritence of the saints in Light. Delivered through His blood, our sin sent forth, separated from us through Christ Jesus, the image of the invisible God. The Head of the Body, the Church. We who have been Reconciled INTO Him in the Body of His flesh through His death to present us reconciled, changed, Holy, without fault in His presence, to fulfill the will of God. If we continue in the faith grounded and settled, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel. The hope, the mystery which is now revealed, Christ in us the hope of Glory. This hope, the expectation having been reserved in Heaven and has come unto us. Whom we preach to present every man in Christ. Wherein we labor, striving according to His working which worketh in us mightily.

Amen?

Col 1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Col 1:4 having heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love that is to all the holy ones,
Col 1:5 because of the hope that is laid up, reserved for you in the heavens, which you heard of beforehand by the word of the truth of the good news,
Col 1:6 which has come to you, as also in all the world, and is bearing fruit, as also in you, from the day in which you heard, and knew the grace of God in truth;
Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, the One which hath fitted us into the portion of the lot of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption, deliverence through his blood, even the forgiveness, freedom, the sending forth of the sins:
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by, through him to reconcile all things unto, INTO himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Col 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Col 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable, without fault and unreproveable in his sight, presence:
Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
Col 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
Col 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Col 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
Col 1:29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.

HIM · Nov 25, 2021

HIM said:
Let's turn back a chapter to establish the context of the letter.

We the saints and faithful brethren. Having faith in Christ Jesus and love for all the Holy ones because of the HOPE, the expectation reserved in the heavens for us. The good news, the Gospel which has come into us, bearing fruit. Having been fitted into the portion, the inheritence of the saints in Light. Delivered through His blood, our sin sent forth, separated from us through Christ Jesus, the image of the invisible God. The Head of the Body, the Church. We who have been Reconciled INTO Him in the Body of His flesh through His death to present us reconciled, changed, Holy, without fault in His presence, to fulfill the will of God. If we continue in the faith grounded and settled, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel. The hope, the mystery which is now revealed, Christ in us the hope of Glory. This hope, the expectation having been reserved in Heaven and has come unto us. Whom we preach to present every man in Christ. Wherein we labor, striving according to His working which worketh in us mightily.

Amen?

Col 1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Col 1:4 having heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love that is to all the holy ones,
Col 1:5 because of the hope that is laid up, reserved for you in the heavens, which you heard of beforehand by the word of the truth of the good news,
Col 1:6 which has come to you, as also in all the world, and is bearing fruit, as also in you, from the day in which you heard, and knew the grace of God in truth;
Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, the One which hath fitted us into the portion of the lot of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption, deliverence through his blood, even the forgiveness, freedom, the sending forth of the sins:
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by, through him to reconcile all things unto, INTO himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Col 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Col 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable, without fault and unreproveable in his sight, presence:
Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
Col 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
Col 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Col 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
Col 1:29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.

I love Colossians it is one of my favorite letters. It is a shame that to many of us get centered on just one thing because it really brings out the Gospel. Colossians 2:16 is being stated in context to verse 14. We know this by the use of the word therefore. This means that the handwriting to the ordinances mentioned in verse 14 are those to which included, the meat, drink, holydays, New moon and Sabbath days. These are they which are in the Book Of the Law. And also Verse 14 is being stated in the Dative case, Hence why it should be translated Handwriting to the, of the, or in the Ordinances. Here follow along..

Be encouraged because our hearts are united in love And into all the riches, of the full assurance of the understanding into the full recognition. The knowing of the mystery of the God and Father and of the Christ. The Mystery which is Christ in us the hope of Glory. That we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus. Striving according to his working, which worketh in us mightily.

So AS we have received Christ Jesus walk ye in Him. Being rooted, built up and established in the faith in Him. We are complete in Him, circumcised in the putting of the body of the sins of the flesh. Buried and risen with Him in baptism, quicken together with HIM walking in newness of life. Having Forgiving us all trespasses. Blotting out the handwriting TO THE ordinances. Not the ordinances themselves but the handwriting to them, in them or of them is what the verse says. THE ONES THAT HAD TO DO WITH FORGIVENESS or when we sinned. Because we have been forgiven all trespasses and are not complete in Him, striving to His working which works in us mightily. He took them out of the way nailing them to the cross.

That is the context. Having spoiled their, the handwriting TO THE Ordinances, power and their authority. He triumphed over them in it, the Cross. Let no man therefore, Because of what was just said judge you in meat, drink or respect of Holy day, new moon or sabbath days. These that were of the handwriting to the ordinances. NOT THE ORDINANCES themselves and certainly not the ten commandments.

Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
Col 2:6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
Col 2:7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of the ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man THEREFORE (because of what was just stated) judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

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