They want to tear down statues of Jesus

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Shaun King: Statues of Jesus Christ are 'form of white supremacy,' should be torn down

Far-left activist Shaun King on Monday said all images depicting Jesus as a “white European” should be torn down because they are a form of “white supremacy.”

King made his remarks over a series of Twitter posts as historic monuments and statues have become the targets of anger and vandalism during Black Lives Matter protests in the wake of George Floyd’s death while in police custody late last month.
 

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Shaun King: Statues of Jesus Christ are 'form of white supremacy,' should be torn down

Far-left activist Shaun King on Monday said all images depicting Jesus as a “white European” should be torn down because they are a form of “white supremacy.”

King made his remarks over a series of Twitter posts as historic monuments and statues have become the targets of anger and vandalism during Black Lives Matter protests in the wake of George Floyd’s death while in police custody late last month.
Ugh. Lord have mercy! :(
 
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You were right.

We’d lose a lot of art and need to alter many churches. I guess this is a secular Savonarola. But it won’t end there. Missionaries would be denounced and so on.

~Bella
 
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Lol, that white dude Shaun King still has a platform to speak for blacks? Hilarious. Anyway, I doubt there are many statues of Jesus on public property, most are on private property, so good luck with that. Private persons will take the necessary action that the police aren't willing to.

By the way, that Supreme Court building in D.C. has a bas-relief of Mohammad, the whitest dude ever. I guess that building needs to come down.
 
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So I take it Protestants are only against statues of Christ when damning Catholics?

Protestants are mixed on the issue of statues, though almost universally opposed to veneration of statues.

In Melbourne, Australia, several Protestant and Catholic churches in the inner city have a sculpture of one of the Stations of the Cross outside their building (all made by an Orthodox sculptor).

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Not surprising, but very disturbing. European-made statues of Jesus look European because the art of every Christian people has traditionally been inculturated such that the European depictions of Him make Him look European, just like those of the Syriac people make Him look Middle Eastern, those of the Copts make Him look Egyptian, and so on. So it's actually a good sign of the integration of the religion into the culture, but as some people think that European culture is inherently "white supremacist", they obviously can't see that.

Let them put up statues instead of the founder of the arch-minority religion :rolleyes: that many sadly deceived supposedly 'revolutionary' black people were (re)named after, Muhammad, and deal with the consequences that ought to come according to the worst interpretations of that religion, then, if they actually believe in the kind of nonsense they say. Of course they won't because this isn't about reality as it actually is; it's just another manifestation of the tired and false quasi-leftist meme of "Christianity = White = Racist = Bad".

Tell that to the millions of native Africans in Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Libya, etc. who were Christian when most of Europe was still worshiping rocks and trees, you historically-illiterate morons.


I'm pretty sure Abouna Joseph John from South Sudan is still a black man and also a Coptic Orthodox Christian, and in being that, he is following a form of Christianity that originally came to the Nubian lands in Egypt and Sudan with no imperial conquest whatsoever in the 340s (we have lists of bishops for the Nubian territory of Philae dating back to the time of HH St. Athanasius c. 346, which is notably before the adoption of Christianity as the religion of the Roman Empire, c. 380), and was adopted as the official religion of the Sudanese Nubian kingdoms by the 6th century (by 580; the first of the Nubian Christian kingdom to fall to Islam, Nobatia, did fall in the initial Arab-Muslim invasion in 650, though the other two, Makuria and Alodia, did not fall until 1312 and 1504, respectively). Depending on which date you want to use (mid-4th or late 6th century), Christianity was therefore in Nubia over a millennia before the establishment of Trans-Atlantic slave trade (1526), and possibly as many as three centuries before even the Arabs arrived in the area and set up their own slaving network (c. 641).

That's all without even mentioning Christianity in the Axumite kingdom, which is undoubtedly older than it is in Nubia (maybe much older), such that it is found on Ethiopian coinage c. 327 AD (though the traditional date for the conversion of King 'Ezana is 330 AD). This is one of he oldest Christian Churches to be established in the entire world (behind only Armenia in terms of official adoption by an empire/recognizable modern country, as Armenia officially converted c. 301), and aside from the Syro-Phonecian Greek St. Frumentius, who was the tutor of the future king and converted him after he had ascended to the throne, its formation didn't involve any 'white' people/non-Africans at all!


In fact it was the Christian Axumites who were ruling Arabia for some time following the temporarily successful defeat of the Jewish Himyarites in southern Arabia in the 6th century, prior to the invention of Islam. The veneration of the local Christians in the area of Najran (modern Saudi Arabia), where Christians supposedly remained for some centuries, who were martyred by the Yemenite Jewish king around that time (look up the martyrs of Najran sometime; they're really fascinating) is what ended up in the Qur'an as the "people of the ditch" story in Surat al Buruj, where they are of course scrubbed of their Christian identities. :rolleyes:

Anyway, the point is that all of this sucks and is stupid and is reliant on a false narrative that doesn't actually take into account the 2,000 year history Christianity in Africa before declaring depictions of Christ made by Europeans racist because, I dunno...white people, I guess... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well excuse me all to hell for existing. You know who doesn't act like this? Literally every Egyptian, Sudanese, Ethiopian, and Eritrean person I've ever communed with! Nor the lady from Togo who was visiting the monastery of St. Shenouda I was there, or for that matter the friends I made from Tanzania when I was still RC. I'm pretty sure this crappy attitude that confuses being an ignorant jerk with 'liberation' is just a (*ahem*) relatively privileged American problem.
 
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So I take it Protestants are only against statues of Christ when damning Catholics?

I've never damned a Catholic...

Thou shalt not.

...but I'm against statues of Messiah.

Thou shalt not.
 
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Shaun King: Statues of Jesus Christ are 'form of white supremacy,' should be torn down

Far-left activist Shaun King on Monday said all images depicting Jesus as a “white European” should be torn down because they are a form of “white supremacy.”

King made his remarks over a series of Twitter posts as historic monuments and statues have become the targets of anger and vandalism during Black Lives Matter protests in the wake of George Floyd’s death while in police custody late last month.
It appears that BLM doesn't want anything to do with him.

On September 12, 2019, Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson wrote a lengthy article raising multiple concerns in regards to King, especially related to fundraising.[86]

Shaun King - Wikipedia
 
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So I take it Protestants are only against statues of Christ when damning Catholics?

I oppose the vandalism of Catholic statues and Orthodox icons for the same reason I condemn the Taliban's destruction of those giant Buddha statues in Afghanistan - whatever one thinks about their theological merits, or lack thereof, they have artistic merit, and should be preserved on those grounds.

It appears that BLM doesn't want anything to do with him.

On September 12, 2019, Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson wrote a lengthy article raising multiple concerns in regards to King, especially related to fundraising.[86]

Shaun King - Wikipedia

How is DeRay Mckesson a more authoritaive spokesmen for BLM than Shaun King? King is certainly more prominent in the public sphere. BLM does have something to do with him whether they like it or not.
 
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How is DeRay Mckesson a more authoritaive spokesmen for BLM than Shaun King? King is certainly more prominent in the public sphere. BLM does have something to do with him whether they like it or not.
They by McKesson have skewed him, so make it what you will.
But what it says to me is that if they are disparging him then he is a very bad guy.
 
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