How do we prove we're not racist
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What is it about the examples I gave that you don’t see as privilege?
Examples?
Society as a whole doesn’t discriminate against anybody.
What type of examples are you looking for?
The same reason you (and I) would take offense at the suggest that white people should go first.
I am not white, but a friend of mine is and he has long hair, lots of tatoos, and drives a harley. He has stories of harassment from the cops, and treatment as if he were a Hells Angel gang member. Another guy I know has male pattern baldness, and lots of tattoos so he shaves his head. He is afraid to wear black because people assume he is a skin head.
How are you defining the difference? I define institutional racism as the following:
In order for there to be institutional racism, the institution itself, must be created in such a manner that the institution will remain racist no matter the person(s) holding positions within it. Consider the scenario of a racist police department;
In short -- If you are given free reign to remove all officers within that jurisdiction, and replace them with a new group of people, hand chosen by you; would said racism remain?
If removing / replacing the variables from the system, in this case the officers, would cleanse the system of racism, then institutional racism does not exist. However, if you remove / replace all variables within the system with new variables known to be non-corrupt from the systems intention (in this case if you replace all cops with people known to not be racist), yet the system remains corrupt (racist here), then institutional racism exists.
This is how I define institutional racism; do you agree or do you define it differently?
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You know, I keep wondering that myself. Not only actors but athletes and musicians as well.
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Why don't you just answer the question?
So he made a mistake including her with the others; how does this prove he is racist?
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It's an example of Jussie Smollett having black privilege, Todd did not have such privilege.
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What about the time Trump told a black man that if he wasn't for him over Biden that the black man wasn't black? Or when He said that Obama was "..the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy..” . Doesn't that prove he is racist?
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Everybody hates Trump except for some Republicans. He may be racist, I'm not certain. But playing the racist card helps to disqualify people. The mainstream media accused Ron Paul of being racist. I very highly doubt that Ron Paul is a racist.
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I think that sometimes rich white people get off a lot easier and black people sometimes receive harsher sentences. And even though white people are killed more by cops than black people there are less black people than there are white people.
I also think that OJ Simpson was loved as a football player and Rich enough to avoid a harsh condemnation. Nowadays with brain science we know that there's a high chance that he has brain damage that would lead to him murdering his wife. The brain has the consistency of butter and OJ had a job where he was knocked around a lot.
if a judge does not have breakfast and does not drink their coffee they are likely to give harsher sentences on people. So yes human biology does have a say in how someone judges another. There is no need to ignore evolutionary theory and science. just because black people might favor black people or white people might favor white people does not mean that they are racist. It's Tribal instincts. Racism is when we build those tribal instincts up to extremes.
I also think that OJ Simpson was loved as a football player and Rich enough to avoid a harsh condemnation. Nowadays with brain science we know that there's a high chance that he has brain damage that would lead to him murdering his wife. The brain has the consistency of butter and OJ had a job where he was knocked around a lot.
if a judge does not have breakfast and does not drink their coffee they are likely to give harsher sentences on people. So yes human biology does have a say in how someone judges another. There is no need to ignore evolutionary theory and science. just because black people might favor black people or white people might favor white people does not mean that they are racist. It's Tribal instincts. Racism is when we build those tribal instincts up to extremes.
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unjust is an opinion and you are condemning people for not seeing things in the same way that you do.
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it's called white privileged
how bout actual
i didn't and don't take offense you did.
and how is that discrimination?
yes because institutionalized racism is independent of any individual. Its the precociousness assumptions that people make that is the source. Most people don't realize they are engaging in it and when it's pointed out defense mechanisms snap into place and denials and a quick retreat from the topic.
If i am driving and pulled over by police I have no reason to be afraid of the police officer. I don't worry about keeping my hands in sight. If i am stopped it was because i made a traffic violation not because of the color of my skin. I assume that i can and will have a positive relationship with the police officer because i am a white middle aged man. I don't see (unless i think about it) that i am being racially profiled to and that profile is largely positive. Not fearing the police is a privilege.
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The powers that be are trying to influence blacks that if you are gay or transexual you will be accepted and perhaps even out on a pedestal above the rest of society
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"Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." Ron Paul
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