Statistics reveal police shoot and kill twice as many white suspects as African American suspects

agapelove said:

So you're okay with the socioeconomic inequalities that these communities have to deal with? They just have to "get over it", like you did?

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First of all, white people struggle with almost all of the same issues as anyone else. They struggle with poverty, homelessness, gang violence, drugs, and yes...even racism. Some of the most racist and hateful people I know are in my own family because they blame white people for all of their problems. The only thing I do not see very many white people struggle with is the victimhood mentality their problems are caused by racial oppression. The only racial oppression I ever received were from other minorities, including my own family because I had the audacity to think for myself and vote with my convictions.

So am I asking them to "get over it" like I did? Yes! But I got over it the exact same way white people "get over" their social economic problems. By taking responsibility for their lives and making something of it. Not waiting for the next pandering politician to "solve all my problems".

Oompa Loompa said:

First of all, white people struggle with almost all of the same issues as anyone else. They struggle with poverty, homelessness, gang violence, drugs, and yes...even racism. Some of the most racist and hateful people I know are in my own family because they blame white people for all of their problems. The only thing I do not see very many white people struggle with is the victimhood mentality their problems are caused by racial oppression. The only racial oppression I ever received were from other minorities, including my own family because I had the audacity to think for myself and vote with my convictions.

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Did I say white people don't struggle? Did I say black people can't be racist? This is what I originally said: The simple answer is they (POC) are disproportionately put into situations where they are more likely to commit crimes, be exposed to crime, become victims of crime, and be suspected of crime.

agapelove said:

Did I say white people don't struggle? Did I say black people can't be racist? This is what I originally said: The simple answer is they (POC) are disproportionately put into situations where they are more likely to commit crimes, be exposed to crime, become victims of crime, and be suspected of crime.

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And we are "disproportionately put into situations" because we disproportionately put ourselves there by blaming all of our poor life decisions on the white supremacist hiding under our beds. I am confident that if white people played the victim as much as we do, they would have the same results.

On the list of the top 100 problems affecting minorities, white supremacy and racial oppression is not on the list. The number one cause for almost all the problems for people of color is father absence that is incentivized by the welfare system.

I am just saying that as a person of color who has overcome my socioeconomic situation, the best thing BLM can do to help the black community is seek the reverse the problem of the absent father. I do my part by volunteering as a male role model at the juvenile detention center. Its heck of a lot more effective than looting a local CVS.

Oompa Loompa said:

I am just saying that as a person of color who has overcome my socioeconomic situation, the best thing BLM can do to help the black community is seek the reverse the problem of the absent father. I do my part by volunteering as a male role model at the juvenile detention center. Its heck of a lot more effective than looting a local CVS.

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How can they reverse that problem when the system keeps killing/jailing their fathers?

Stop the extremism in saying "And we are "disproportionately put into situations" because we disproportionately put ourselves there by blaming all of our poor life decisions on the white supremacist hiding under our beds", oompa loompa.

Who is 'we' and who are you to write such a far fetched comment?

agapelove said:

How can they reverse that problem when the system keeps killing/jailing their fathers?

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By godly men and women stepping up and being that good role model. A man doesn't have to be the father to be a good fatherly figure. The best fatherly figure in my life wasnt my father. This is where the powerful men of God need to step up and fill the void in a young boy's heart. Lord knows they have been far to silent for too long.

Johnboy53 said:

While the mainstream media has promoted the idea of racist police unjustly targeting black people, official crime statistics revealed that's nothing more than a myth. One America's Pearson Sharp breaks down the numbers.

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OAN News is a biased right wing hack new organization trying to move in on Fox News market share. This is unreliable data.

JohnAshton said:

Stop the extremism in saying "And we are "disproportionately put into situations" because we disproportionately put ourselves there by blaming all of our poor life decisions on the white supremacist hiding under our beds", oompa loompa.

Who is 'we' and who are you to write such a far fetched comment?

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"We" as in "a person of color speaking to people of color".

dogs4thewin said:

and when they commit crime they need to pay for it. Now they deserve to have the same sentence as a white person, but you cannot say I am black I have had a tough life government help me if you CHOOSE to commit a crime you need to do the time.

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Brock Turner and Cory Batey

Demographic differences in sentencing

A_Thinker said:

Statistics also show that there are 8-10 times as many whites ... as there are blacks ... in the US ...

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Statistics also show that black males are about 6-8% of the population yet commit close to 50% of the violent crime.

They also show that a police officer is 18x more likely to be shot by a black person than a black person is to be shot by a police officer.

Here's another statistic for you. .003% of arrests end in a shooting. .002 to .001% of arrests end in use of force and 98% of those no one in injured.

This whole thing is built upon lies and false premise that it's a rampant problem. It's not.

Shemjaza said:

yes.

Black people in California are stopped far more often by police, major study proves

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I believe in the article they couldn't show racial bias. They also didn't say anything about probable cause for any of the stops? Was there probable cause for the stops or not? Did the data show that cops were stopping blacks for violations, but not whites?

agapelove said:

Did I say white people don't struggle? Did I say black people can't be racist? This is what I originally said: The simple answer is they (POC) are disproportionately put into situations where they are more likely to commit crimes, be exposed to crime, become victims of crime, and be suspected of crime.

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What, poor people have a harder time with having good character? That's kind of prejudiced if you ask me. I think poor people are equally capable of having good character as anyone else. I don't believe having less money creates less character in the least.

We need to stop having excuses for poor character.

agapelove said:

How can they reverse that problem when the system keeps killing/jailing their fathers?

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If the father's would take responsibility for the families they create, and take responsibility to be good fathersz role models, and husband's they wouldn't be doing stuff that would get the landed in jail. And the police are keeping running around killing them. That's a false narrative. .002% of arrests result in shootings. That's such a tiny fraction and shows that there is too much hype.

dogs4thewin said:

I said in an earlier post the sentences ought to be the same. That is a reform that is needed, but the fact remains that when you choose to commit a crime ( even if you feel you had no choice) if the victims and DA charge you and you are convicted you need to serve your time. I did not say that black people deserve to serve more time than white people ( in fact I have repeatedly stated otherwise.

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And I did not say black people do not have to serve their time. I am pointing out the injustice in how POC are put into situations where they are more likely to become involved with crime, and then they are punished more harshly than their white counterpart. Do you see how that is unfair? If you want a stunning example of this just look at the War on Drugs or the modern day marijuana industry. This is what systematic oppression is, and we need to deal with it.

rjs330 said:

What, poor people have a harder time with having good character? That's kind of prejudiced if you ask me. I think poor people are equally capable of having good character as anyone else. I don't believe having less money creates less character in the least.

We need to stop having excuses for poor character.

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Did you think that was my personal opinion? Studies show impoverished people are more likely to be involved with crime so argue with the numbers, not me.

agapelove said:

Did you think that was my personal opinion? Studies show impoverished people are more likely to be involved with crime so argue with the numbers, not me.

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I think you may have missed my point. It wasn't about numbers. It's about character. Being poor is not an excuse for bad character. Just cause I he poor are more likely to be involved in crime doesn't mean it's an excuse. Poor people can have good character. Being poor isn't an excuse for bad character.