THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!

ClementofA said:

Lam.3:31For the Lord will NOT cast off FOR EVER:
32But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies.
33For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve THE CHILDREN OF MEN. (KJV, emphasis mine)

1 Cor.3:15 If any man’s work is burned, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, but as through fire.

Mt.1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Mt.2:6b ...my people Israel.

The "His people" referred to are Israel (2:6) of the context. IOW people like Judas Iscariot, the son of perdition, & the Pharisees who were blaspheming Christ & or the Holy Spirit, etc.

Rom.11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Rom 5:18 Consequently, then, as it was through one offense for ALL MANKIND for condemnation, thus also it is through one just act for ALL MANKIND for life's justifying."

Rom 5:19 For even as, through the disobedience of the one man, THE MANY were constituted sinners, thus also, through the obedience of the One, THE MANY shall be constituted just."

1 Cor.15:22 AS in Adam ALL die SO ALSO in Christ shall ALL be made alive.

1 Cor.15:28 And when ALL shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put ALL under him, that God may be all in ALL.

Col.1:16 For by Him ***ALL*** was created that are in HEAVEN and that are on EARTH, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All was created through Him and for Him.
20 and by Him to reconcile ***ALL*** to Himself, by Him, whether on EARTH or in HEAVEN, having made peace through the blood of His cross.


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I destroyed all your "proof texts" against universalism showing they failed as such "proof texts". That's why your quoted verses are so lame. If Scripture actually taught the endless tortures or endless annihilation doctrine, why isn't it being shouted in the most clear language repeatedly from Genesis to Revelation. Such doctrines are a joke.

Yet another lame, feeble, failing attempt to support your theology. Nothing there states there are no more chances after the second coming. Nothing there states the Love of Love Crucified the Omnipotent has expired like a carton of milk & the Almighty is powerless to save. Nothing states Love unending will hold grudges, bitterness and hate against anyone for all eternity, as your theology would have us believe.

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Nonsense. I am still waiting for you to address the content of my posts and stop cutting and pasting the same old content that has already been addressed elsewhere throughout this thread. Your post here is not truthful at all. We have already gone through each one of your scriptures already. When context is applied there application is to the saved before the second coming not the unsaved, unrepentant wicked after the second coming. I am still waiting for you to address my posts to you. Your only cutting and pasting the same content that has already been addressed without addressing the content of my posts and scriptures shared with you. This only shows your not here for a discussion I guess. Proof provided below...

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ClementofA said:

Where do any of these passages say it is talking about believers only? Nowhere

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Your quote from mine earlier was in reference to other scriptures and scripture examples of David, Saul and others who repented from their sins as well as other scriptures you provided. All of them were to the saved not the unrepentant wicked. Let's see if any of the scriptures you provide here say that the unrepented wicked will be saved....

ClementofA said:

1 Cor.3:15 If any man’s work is burned, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, but as through fire.

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This one has already been addressed throughout this thread many times already and is only repetition on your behalf without responding to my post. I posted earlier here showing the context of 1 CORINTHIANS 3:15 is to the "BROTHERS" in Christ v1 who are babes in Christ and his Word v2-3; fightings over who is of PAUL and APOLLOS v4-5. Then about PAUL and APOLLOS sharing the Gospel (the Word of God) in planting the seed (Word) and watering to give the increase to the church v6-8. Then we are all to be labourers together with Christ in sharing the gospel whose foundation is JESUS Christ v9-11. Then we have PAUL stating whoever builds on this foundation (CHRIST) v11 in sharing the Gospel v12 his work in sharing the gospel will be manifest in the day of fire. Meaning those who are saved will not receive the destruction of the wicked (2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9). Leads us to v14 that says If any man's work abide which he has built thereupon, he shall receive a reward the foundation built upon here is to v11 Christ. Now context is established. This leads us to v15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. This is in reference to the work of sharing the gospel. So no this scripture does not teach anywhere that it is is reference to the wicked being saved at the second coming the context shows that it is a message to the believers, the context is to sharing Gods' Word and those being addressed as being babes in Gods' Word not sharing the gospel message correctly and pointing them to the foundation of the gospel which is JESUS CHRIST.

One down. The scriptures here are not saying that the wicked will be saved at the second coming. The scriptures teach that the wicked are destroyed after the second coming (2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9; REVELATION 21:7-8; REVELATION 22:11-15; MATTHEW 25:31-41; MATTHEW 7:19-27 etc etc..)

ClementofA said:

Mt.1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

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Read the scripture. MATTHEW 1:21 says And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: FOR HE SHALL SAVE HIS PEOPLE FROM THEIR SINS.

This is to the saved not the unsaved or the unrepentant wicked.

Two down. The scriptures here are not saying that the wicked will be saved at the second coming. The scriptures teach that the wicked are destroyed after the second coming (2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9; REVELATION 21:7-8; REVELATION 22:11-15; MATTHEW 25:31-41; MATTHEW 7:19-27 etc etc..)

ClementofA said:

Mt.2:6b ...my people Israel. The "His people" referred to are Israel (2:6) of the context. IOW people like Judas Iscariot, the son of perdition, & the Pharisees who were blaspheming Christ & or the Holy Spirit, etc.

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ISREAL in the new covenant are all those who believe and follow God's Word. ISRAEL in the new covenant are not those who do not believe and follow God's Word (ROMANS 9:6-8). If we are not a part of God's ISRAEL we have no part in God's new covenant promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27.

Three down. The scriptures here are not saying that the wicked will be saved at the second coming. The scriptures teach that the wicked are destroyed after the second coming (2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9; REVELATION 21:7-8; REVELATION 22:11-15; MATTHEW 25:31-41; MATTHEW 7:19-27 etc etc..)

ClementofA said:

Rom.11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

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"DITTO" ISREAL in the new covenant are all those who believe and follow God's Word. ISRAEL in the new covenant are not those who do not believe and follow God's Word (ROMANS 9:6-8). If we are not a part of God's ISRAEL we have no part in God's new covenant promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27.

Four down. The scriptures here are not saying that the wicked will be saved at the second coming. The scriptures teach that the wicked are destroyed after the second coming (2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9; REVELATION 21:7-8; REVELATION 22:11-15; MATTHEW 25:31-41; MATTHEW 7:19-27 etc etc..)

ClementofA said:

Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

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Read the context and the scriptures already provided REVELATION 5:6-13 is in reference to the saved not the unsaved v8-10. The time is at the second coming. At this time the the wicked will be destroyed at the brightness of his coming. Every creature is in context to v8-12 who are the saved not the unsaved. As well as this there is no scripture here that says the wicked will be saved after the second coming.

Five down. The scriptures here are not saying that the wicked will be saved at the second coming. The scriptures teach that the wicked are destroyed after the second coming (2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9; REVELATION 21:7-8; REVELATION 22:11-15; MATTHEW 25:31-41; MATTHEW 7:19-27 etc etc..)

ClementofA said:

Rom 5:18 Consequently, then, as it was through one offense for ALL MANKIND for condemnation, thus also it is through one just act for ALL MANKIND for life's justifying." Rom 5:19 For even as, through the disobedience of the one man, THE MANY were constituted sinners, thus also, through the obedience of the One, THE MANY shall be constituted just."

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More repetition. This has already been addressed elsewher. ROMANS 5:18-19 is teachings that all men have sinned and are condemned in sin but that through the act of God's grace and justice and judgement in sending his own son to die on the cross for our sins all who accept the gift of Gods' grace by faith in Christ can be reconcilled to God and receive God's forgiveness. The MANY here are the saved. Note it does not say ALL and there is no scripture that says that the unrepentant wicked will be saved anywhere in these scriptures.

Six down. The scriptures here are not saying that the wicked will be saved at the second coming. The scriptures teach that the wicked are destroyed after the second coming (2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9; REVELATION 21:7-8; REVELATION 22:11-15; MATTHEW 25:31-41; MATTHEW 7:19-27 etc etc..)

ClementofA said:

1 Cor.15:22 AS in Adam ALL die SO ALSO in Christ shall ALL be made alive.
1 Cor.15:28 And when ALL shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put ALL under him, that God may be all in ALL.

Col.1:16 For by Him ***ALL*** was created that are in HEAVEN and that are on EARTH, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All was created through Him and for Him.
20 and by Him to reconcile ***ALL*** to Himself, by Him, whether on EARTH or in HEAVEN, having made peace through the blood of His cross.

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None of these scriptures teach the wicked will be saved. 1 CORINTHIANS 15:28; COLOSSIANS 1:16 and COLOSSIANS 1:20 are to the Christs sacrifice for our sins and the reconciliation of the sins of the world. Nowhere in any of these scriptures does it say or teach that the unrepentant wicked who do not accept the gift of JESUS death and blood will be saved and receive everlasting life. The ALL here is conditional to receiving God's gift of grace through faith *EPEHSIANS 2:8-9. See also these scriptures here linked

Seven, eight and nine down. The scriptures here are not saying that the wicked will be saved at the second coming. The scriptures teach that the wicked are destroyed after the second coming (2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9; REVELATION 21:7-8; REVELATION 22:11-15; MATTHEW 25:31-41; MATTHEW 7:19-27 etc etc..)

ClementofA said:

It's implied in the Scriptures posted above. Can you not see that?

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Nonsense. You saying the unrepentant wicked are saved after the second coming is implied when the scriptures teach the opposite in 2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9; REVELATION 21:7-8; REVELATION 22:11-15; MATTHEW 25:31-41; MATTHEW 7:19-27 etc is the same as saying your reading into the scripture what the scriptures do not say and teach and ignoring the scripture context to try and make them say things that they do not. This is called eisegesis and is not biblical for interpretation of the scriptures. Context is king and it proves your interpretation of these scriptures are in error as shown above. You got nothing dear friend have you.

Now let's be honest dear friend. Your adding to the book of REVELATION in which we are warned not to do *REVELATION 22:19. Now please show me from the scriptures where does it say that the unrepentant wicked after the second coming receive everlasting life when the God's Word alone says...

1. The unrepentant wicked do not receive eternal life *JOHN 3:36
2. The unrepentant wicked are destroyed after the second coming *2 THESSALONIANS 1:9
3. The unrepentant wicked partake of the second resurrection of condemnation *JOHN 5:28-29
4. The unrepentant wicked in the second resurrection of condemnation partake of the second death in the Lake of fire *REVELATION 20:6; REVELATION 21:7-8.
5. There is no more resurrections after the second death and no more death.

Sorry dear friend, it seems God's Word disagrees with you. All your posting is smoke and mirrors. For me only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that lead others away from the Word of God.

Hope this helps.

ClementofA said:

Not true. Where, for example, did you ever address all the points in this post, as opposed to lightly dismissing it:

"Vincent's Word Studies
At the name of Jesus (ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι)
Rev., better, in the name. The name means here the personal name; but as including all that is involved in the name. See on Matthew 28:19. Hence the salutation is not at the name of Jesus, as by bowing when the name is uttered, but, as Ellicott rightly says: "the spiritual sphere, the holy element as it were, in which every prayer is to be offered and every knee to bow." Compare Ephesians 5:20."


"In the NT κάμπτω is found only in combination with γόνυ (γόνατα), and in this connection it is used trans. with γόνυ (γόνατα) as obj. (R. 11:4; Eph. 3:14) and instrans. with γόνυ as subj. (R. 14:11; Phil.2:10)."

"κάμπτειν γόνυ (γόνατα) is the gesture of full inner submission in worship before the one whom we bow the knee. Thus in R. 14:11 bowing the knee is linked with confession within the context of a judgement scene, and in Phil. 2:10 it again accompanies confession with reference to the worship of the exalted Kyrios Jesus by the cosmos. At R. 11:4 κάμπτειν γόνυ τῇ Βάαλ signifies surrender to Baal, and at Eph. 3:14...is a solemn description of the attitude of submission to God in prayer" (Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (TDNT), Vol.3, p.594-595, Heinrich Schlier, ed. Kittel., Eerdmans, 1978).

"2:10-11 These final verses of the christologial hymn describe the universal homage and acclamation that will be accorded the one whose name ranks above all others...the adoration is in honour of the exalted Christ...the parallel words of v.11b describe explicitly the act of reverence as paid directly to the Son and 'to the glory of God the Father'. It is clear that Jesus is the one being
worshipped."

"...'Every knee shall bow'. The universal scope of the adoration offered to Jesus as Lord is described by the words 'every knee shall bow' and 'every tongue confess'. (v.11)...The bending of the knee was an expression denoting great reverence and submission in the OT, especially marking the humble approach of the worshipper who felt his need so keenly that he could not stand upright before God. While the usual position in prayer was that of standing (e.g., Je. 18:20; 1 Ki. 18:15; 17:1, etc), in times of special need or extremity the worshipper fell on his knees (so Ez. 9:5, 15). Likewise in the Gospels people stand to pray (Lk.18:11, 13) and Jesus assumes His disciples will stand (cf. Mt.6:5); but when there is an acute sense of need or urgent entreaty, the supplicant falls down before God. So Jesus in Gethsemane bows down in lowly submission and distress (Mt.26:9; Mk.14:35; Lk.22:41). The bowing of the knee here at Phil. 2:10, as Martin puts it, is 'a mark of extreme abasement and submission (as in Eph. iii.14) and denotes that the universal homage marks the subjection of those who kneel to the lordship of Christ'.47"

"...Is. 45:22-25...The Lord...swears solemnly by his own life that 'every knee will bow before me; by me every tongue will swear'...the words of v.23, which are reiterated in Phil. 2:10-11, express the notion of the universal and final homage to Yahweh.

"...By invoking Is.45:23 as its proof-text the author of the hymn and the...community in which the hymn originated live 'in confident expectation that this salvation will soon be universally visible'.55"

(The New International Greek Testament Commentary (NIGTC): The Epistle to the Phillipians, Peter T. Obrien, 1991, p.233ff)

"bend the knee in worship, LXX Is.45.23, etc.":

https://translate.academic.ru/κάμπτω/el/xx/
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry=ka/mptw


"No hypocritical confession will satisfy God. “No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost” (1Cor. 12:3). Further, Phil. 2:11 says that the confession is “to the glory of God the Father.” No confession compulsion and force would glorify God the Father.” The whole text implies a real change of heart to make this confession truly “in the Name of Jesus” and “to the glory of God the Father.” Note, further, that those who “bow” and “confess” are in heaven," “in earth,” and “underearth.” This includes the whole creation of God."
Is Hell Eternal? Or Will God's Plan Fail? Ch. 8 The Neglected Age

"Talbot argues Paul anticipated this exhaustive reconciliation because of the verb he chose: confess. According to Talbot, “he chose a verb that throughout the Septuagint implies not only confession, but the offer of praise and thanksgiving as well.”3 He goes on to suggest that, while a king or queen could force a subject to bow against their will, praise and thanksgiving can only come from the heart:

" “either those who bow before Jesus Christ and declare openly that he is Lord do so sincerely and by their own choice or they do not. If they do this sincerely and by their own choice, then there can be but one reason: They too have been reconciled to God.4” "

Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing,
and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for the eons of the eons.

Isa.45:21b and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. 22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth inrighteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Phil.2:9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (NASB)

"Keep in mind these 2 simple observations:

The text In Isaiah 45:22-23 that inspires 2:9-11 uses the future tense.

(2) The other NT text referring to the worship of everyone “in heaven, on earth, and under the earth” presents a vision of what happens, not of what might happen (Rev. 5:13)."

“How ironic that those who believe God will not violate the ‘free ’will of man have no problem believing He will violate His own free will—that all men should be saved!” - David Nuckols

“He does not save men by arbitrary force. He saves by their wills, through moral influence. God has resources in his universe, the all conquering agencies of love, to make the unwilling soul willing! He has light enough to make the blind see, and love enough to melt the hardened heart.” -Quillen Hamilton Shinn

"It's tempting for me to believe that God is the grand master playing chess and we are the 5 year old rookie. Theoretically we are "free" to win the chess game, it is possible. No not really in the libertarian sense - it is unlikely to the point of virtual zero. in other words, God will always get His way, despite our best efforts not to be saved."

According to the Bible mercy will triumph over judgement.

Love will conquer all.

As someone said:

"annihilating someone DOES NOT RESPECT THEIR FREE WILL!"

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Why do you think I need to address someones opinion outside of the bible as nothing you have posted above says that the unrepentant wicked receive everlasting life after the second coming does it?

Now let's be honest dear friend. Your adding to the book of REVELATION in which we are warned not to do *REVELATION 22:19. Now please show me from the scriptures where does it say that the unrepentant wicked after the second coming receive everlasting life when the God's Word alone says...

1. The unrepentant wicked do not receive eternal life *JOHN 3:36
2. The unrepentant wicked are destroyed after the second coming *2 THESSALONIANS 1:9
3. The unrepentant wicked partake of the second resurrection of condemnation *JOHN 5:28-29
4. The unrepentant wicked in the second resurrection of condemnation partake of the second death in the Lake of fire *REVELATION 20:6; REVELATION 21:7-8.
5. There is no more resurrections after the second death and no more death.

Sorry dear friend, it seems God's Word disagrees with you.

ClementofA said:

For the same reason when you posted "someones opinion outside of the bible", e.g. BDAG, i responded to it. And did you not see the Bible verses in my post?

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Not really dear friend. Do you know the difference between a Greek Lexicon that show Greek word meanings to scripture contexts and scripture and chapter context that proves interpretation verses a bible commentary that only show interpretation. You did not address my posts to you in relation to GREEK meaning and scripture context you simply provided someone's opinion that did not address the content of the posts shared with you.

LoveGodsWord said: ↑ Read the context and the scriptures already provided REVELATION 5:6-13 is in reference to the saved not the unsaved v8-10.

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ClementofA said:

No, it's clearly speaking of EVERY creature in the entire universe: This includes everyone in the universe, including the dead and demons: Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. John speaks of "every creature" & to emphasize this again he repeats "and all that are in them": Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. This worship (v.13) uses the same worshipful words as the redeemed of vs 9-10 use in v.12: 12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. All this being in the context of salvation - "the Lamb that was slain" (v.12 & 13).

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Nonsense. Nothing in this scripture says that any of the unrepentant wicked will be saved after the second coming. The context that you leave out of REVELATION 5:13 shows that these scriptures are in reference to the repentant saved who accept the blood of Christ by faith.

REVELATION 5:6-13
[6], And I beheld, and, see, in the middle of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the middle of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
[7], And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne.
[8], And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and GOLDEN VIALS FULL OF ODORS, WHICH ARE THE PRAYERS OF SAINTS.
[9], AND THEY SUNG A NEW SONG, SAYING, YOU ARE WORTHY TO TAKE THE BOOK, AND TO OPEN THE SEALS THEREOF: FOR YOU WERE SLAIN, AND HAVE REDEEMED US TO GOD BY YOUR BLOOD OUT OF EVERY KINDRED, AND TONGUE, AND PEOPLE, AND NATION;
[10], AND HAVE MADE US TO OUR GOD KINGS AND PRIESTS: AND WE SHALL REIGN ON THE EARTH.
[11], And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
[12], SAYING WITH A LOUD VOICE, WORTHY IS THE LAMB THAT WAS SLAIN TO RECEIVE POWER, AND RICHES, AND WISDOM, AND STRENGTH, AND HONOR, AND GLORY, AND BLESSING.
[13], And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, BLESSING, AND HONOR, AND GLORY, AND POWER, BE TO HIM THAT SITS ON THE THRONE, AND TO THE LAMB FOR EVER AND EVER.

Note the above context you leave out dear friend. V8 is in reference to the 24 elders and the prayers and praise of the saints giving thanks giving to God because JESUS (the lamb) redeems them by His BLOOD. These are those who accept the gift of God’s dear son and accept his death on their behalf (the repentant saved) before the second coming thanking and blessing God. All of God’s saved creation will be singing this song. There is no mention of the wicked here.

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Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(13) And every creature . . .—The third chorus: the chorus of the universe. The song of the redeemed, echoed by the hosts of angels, is now merged in the utterance of all. “Every creature which is in the heaven, and upon the earth, and beneath the earth, and upon the sea, and all the things that are in them, heard I saying—“To Him that sitteth upon the throne, And to the Lamb, (Be) the blessing, and the honour, And the glory, and the might, To the ages of the ages.” The song of praise rises from all quarters, and from all forms of creation. The whole universe, animate and inanimate, joins in this glad acclaim.

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
5:8-14 It is matter of joy to all the world, to see that God deals with men in grace and mercy through the Redeemer. He governs the world, not merely as a Creator, but as our Saviour. The harps were instruments of praise; the vials were full of odours, or incense, which signify the prayers of the saints: prayer and praise should always go together. Christ has redeemed his people from the bondage of sin, guilt, and Satan.

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Context matters, cherry picking scripture does not say that the unrepentant wicked after the second coming will be saved anywhere.

Your adding to the book of REVELATION in which we are warned not to do *REVELATION 22:19. Now please show me from the scriptures where does it say that the unrepentant wicked after the second coming receive everlasting life when the God's Word alone says...

1. The unrepentant wicked do not receive eternal life *JOHN 3:36
2. The unrepentant wicked are destroyed after the second coming *2 THESSALONIANS 1:9
3. The unrepentant wicked partake of the second resurrection of condemnation *JOHN 5:28-29
4. The unrepentant wicked in the second resurrection of condemnation partake of the second death in the Lake of fire *REVELATION 20:6; REVELATION 21:7-8.
5. There is no more resurrections after the second death and no more death.

Sorry dear friend, it seems God's Word disagrees with you.

ClementofA said:

In context "His people" (Mt.1:21) refers to the nation "Israel" (Mt.2:6) of the Old Testament:

"And thou Bethlehem, &c.] Micah 5:2. The quotation nearly corresponds with the Hebrew text, the literal translation of which is: But thou Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little to be among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall come forth unto me he that is to be ruler in Israel."

Matthew 2:6 Commentaries: 'AND YOU, BETHLEHEM, LAND OF JUDAH, ARE BY NO MEANS LEAST AMONG THE LEADERS OF JUDAH; FOR OUT OF YOU SHALL COME FORTH A RULER WHO WILL SHEPHERD MY PEOPLE ISRAEL.'"

"His people. Israel after the flesh (cf. John 1:11; Luke 2:10; contrast John 1:29; John 4:42),..."

Matthew 1:21 Commentaries: "She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins."

So people like those of Israel who were stoned to death in the Old Testament & Judas, who betrayed Christ, & all the Pharisees who rejected Him, etc.

When the angel spoke in Mt.1:21 Paul was not even saved & Romans had not even been written. Who would Mary or Matthew's readers have understood by "My people...Israel" (Mt.1:21; 2:6)?

Matthew 1:21 doesn't say: He shall save the saved from their sins.

Is that even possible? Does it even make sense?

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NONSENSE your repeating yourself again dear friend without addressing the content of my posts to you that prove why you are in error. Your post here is a repeated cut and paste already addressed in post 1430 linked that refutes your claims here. Matthew 1:21 is to the repentant saved not the unrepentant wicked after the second coming of JESUS.

Read the scripture. MATTHEW 1:21 says And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: FOR HE SHALL SAVE HIS PEOPLE FROM THEIR SINS.

The key word here is HIS PEOPLE. This is to the saved not the unsaved or the unrepentant wicked. Happy to add to this though.

God's ISRAEL according to the new covenant are all those who believe and follow Gods' Word. ISRAEL according to the new covenant are no longer those in the flesh but in the Spirit *ROMANS 9:6-8. There is no more Jew or greek all are one in Christ *GALATIANS 3:28-29; If we are not a part of God's ISRAEL then we have no part in God's new covenant promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27 by faith in God's Word. God's ISRAEL according to the scriptures in the new covenant are all those who believe and follow God's Word.

The scriptures shown in MATTHEW 1:21 are in reference to the saved not the wicked and they do not say anywhere that the wicked will be saved at the second coming. The scriptures teach that the wicked are destroyed after the second coming (2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9; REVELATION 21:7-8; REVELATION 22:11-15; MATTHEW 25:31-41; MATTHEW 7:19-27 etc etc..)

Why you cannot see this I do not know.

ClementofA said:

You falsely claimed i disregarded the context.

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Not at all dear friend. I provided the context were leaving out trying to argue that 1 CORINTHIANS 3:15 means that the unrepentant wicked will be saved when these scriptures say no such thing.

ClementofA said:

So i replied:Clearly i regarded the context & proved my argument from the context:
Verse 11 refers to all mankind, including the lost sinner:
1 Cor.3:11 For other foundation can no one lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Verse 11 says that "no one" can lay any foundation other than the one that has been laid which is Jesus Christ. The words "no one" are not limited to the saints in Corinth, but refer to all mankind. This is the last reference identifying any group of people in the next several verses leading up to v.15. Thus prior context and the more immediate following context of v.15, namely v.17, both refer to lost sinners. That is the context in which verse 15 is to be interpreted as to who it should refer to: 1 Cor.3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. It is the sins of "wood, hay & stubble" that are to be burned away: 1 Corinthians 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. Whereas silver represents the redemption of Christ & those of silver are those who have faith in it, wood, hay & stubble have no silver in them, hence such have no faith.

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You were shown in the contexts you ignore that the scriptures do not say anywhere that the unrepentant wicked receive eternal life here. This was shown to you by going through the scriptures contexts here as the context here is to those who are the saved not the unsaved or unrepentant wicked after the second coming...

1 CORINTHIANS 3 CONTEXT

1. BROTHERS IN CHRIST (v1)
2. WHO ARE BABES IN CHRIST AND HIS WORD (v2-3)
3. WHO WERE FIGHTINGS OVER WHO IS OF PAUL AND APOLLOS (v4-5).
4. Then about PAUL and APOLLOS sharing the Gospel (the Word of God) in planting the seed (Word) and watering to give the increase to the church (v6-8).

5. THEN WE ARE ALL TO BE LABOURERS TOGETHER WITH CHRIST IN SHARING THE GOSPEL WHOSE FOUNDATION IS JESUS CHRIST (v9-11).

6. THEN WE HAVE PAUL STATING WHOEVER BUILDS ON THIS FOUNDATION (CHRIST) (v11) IN SHARING THE GOSPEL v12 his work in sharing the gospel will be manifest in the day of fire. Meaning THOSE WHO ARE SAVED WILL NOT RECEIVE THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WICKED (2 THESSALONIANS 1:8-9).

7. LEADS US TO V14 THAT SAYS IF ANY MAN'S WORK ABIDE WHICH HE HAS BUILT THEREUPON, HE SHALL RECEIVE A REWARD THE FOUNDATION BUILT UPON HERE IS TO V11 BUILDING ON THE FOUNDATION OF CHRIST.

Now context is established which is to the saved and spreading the gospel commission….

8. This leads us to v15 IF ANY MAN'S WORK SHALL BE BURNED, HE SHALL SUFFER LOSS: BUT HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; YET SO AS BY FIRE. This is in reference to the work of sharing the gospel. So no this scripture does not teach anywhere that it is a reference to the wicked being saved at the second coming the context shows that it is a message to the believers, the context is to sharing Gods' Word and those being addressed as being babes in Gods' Word not sharing the gospel message correctly and pointing them to the foundation of the gospel which is JESUS CHRIST.

Now I am claiming here that you are disregarding CONTEXT to and have provided the context you leave out that shows that the scriptures here are talking about the saved not the unsaved or the unrepentant wicked. Now were dear friend does it say in any of these scriptures that the unrepentant receive eternal life after the second coming? - It doesn't your trying to read into the scriptures what the scriptures do not say or teach anywhere. Sorry dear friend but context is king and you ignored it.

ClementofA said:

The context of Matthew 5:25-26, both before & after those 2 verses, is making references to Gehenna. Verses 21-26 have to do with anger & being reconciled & v.22 warns of Gehenna. In verses 27-30 the subject is adultery & v.30 warns regarding Gehenna. Matt 5:25-26 Come to terms quickly with your adversary before it is too late and you are dragged into court, handed over to an officer, and thrown in jail. I assure you that you won't be free again until you have paid the last penny.
"They must pay (as GMac says) the uttermost farthing -- which is to say, they must tender the forgiveness of their brethren that is owed, the repentance and sorrow for sin that is owed, etc. Otherwise they do stay in prison with the tormenters. (their guilt? their hate? their own filthiness?) At last resort, if they still refuse to let go that nasty pet they've been stroking, they must even suffer the outer darkness. God will remove Himself from them to the extent that He can do so without causing their existence to cease. As Tom Talbot points out so well, no sane person of free will (and the child must be sane and informed to have freedom) could possibly choose ultimate horror over ultimate delight throughout the unending ages."

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Nonsense. Your claims to using MATTHEW 5:20-30 says no where that the unrepentant wicked receive eternal life after the second coming. Let's look at the context your disregarding again from....

MATTHEW 5:19-30
[19], WHOEVER THEREFORE SHALL BREAK ONE OF THESE LEAST COMMANDMENTS, AND SHALL TEACH MEN SO, HE SHALL BE CALLED THE LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN: BUT WHOEVER SHALL DO AND TEACH THEM, THE SAME SHALL BE CALLED GREAT IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

Note the context here is to breaking God’s 10 commandments and not breaking God’s 10 commandments

[20], For I say to you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Note the application here JESUS is magnifying the law to our very thoughts and feeling and that our righteousness must exceed the outward appearances of the Scribes and Pharisees.

[21], You have heard that it was said of them of old time, YOU SHALL NOT KILL; AND WHOEVER SHALL KILL SHALL BE IN DANGER OF THE JUDGMENT:
[22], BUT I SAY TO YOU, THAT WHOEVER IS ANGRY WITH HIS BROTHER WITHOUT A CAUSE SHALL BE IN DANGER OF THE JUDGMENT: and whoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: BUT WHOEVER SHALL SAY, YOU FOOL, SHALL BE IN DANGER OF HELL FIRE.

Note the application of JESUS here is to being angry with your brother for no reason. The danger of Hell fire here is to that of God’s destruction from the second death as shown in 2 THESSALONIANS 1:9; REVELATION 21:7-8 prepared for the unrepentant wicked and the devil and his angels *MATTHEW 25:41

[23], Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has ought against you;
[24], Leave there your gift before the altar, and go your way; FIRST BE RECONCILED TO YOUR BROTHER, AND THEN COME AND OFFER YOUR GIFT.
[25], AGREE WITH YOUR ADVERSARY QUICKLY, WHILES YOU ARE IN THE WAY WITH HIM; LEST AT ANY TIME THE ADVERSARY DELIVER YOU TO THE JUDGE, AND THE JUDGE DELIVER YOU TO THE OFFICER, AND YOU BE CAST INTO PRISON.
[26], Truly I say to you, You shall by no means come out there, TILL YOU HAVE PAID THE UTTERMOST FARTHING.

Note here verse 26 is in reference to YOUR BROTHER (not you being angry with your brother) “If your brother has something against you. Another words you have done something wrong to your brother. – You have misapplied the scriptures here. Now note: we continue with a new thought here in relation to breaking God’s Law in the heart with application to Adultery…

[27], YOU HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS SAID BY THEM OF OLD TIME, YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY:
[28], BUT I SAY TO YOU, THAT WHOEVER LOOKS ON A WOMAN TO LUST AFTER HER HAS COMMITTED ADULTERY WITH HER ALREADY IN HIS HEART.
[29], And if your right eye offend you, pluck it out, and cast it from you: for it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish, and not that your whole body should be cast into hell.
[30], And if your right hand offend you, cut it off, and cast it from you: FOR IT IS PROFITABLE FOR YOU THAT ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS SHOULD PERISH, AND NOT THAT YOUR WHOLE BODY SHOULD BE CAST INTO HELL.

Note there is no one single scripture here that says anywhere that the unrepentant wicked receive eternal life after the second coming. Not one.

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The context is that if we break God’s commandments from the heart we will be the unrepentant wicked that do not receive eternal life. The scriptures do not teach anywhere that the unrepentant wicked receive eternal life after the second coming anywhere.

According to the scriptures alone…

1. The unrepentant wicked do not receive eternal life *JOHN 3:36
2. The unrepentant wicked are destroyed after the second coming *2 THESSALONIANS 1:9
3. The unrepentant wicked partake of the second resurrection of condemnation *JOHN 5:28-29
4. The unrepentant wicked in the second resurrection of condemnation partake of the second death in the Lake of fire *REVELATION 20:6; REVELATION 21:7-8.
5. There is no more resurrections after the second death and no more death.

Sorry dear friend, it seems God's Word disagrees with you.

ClementofA said:

All fallen men begin as unrepentant enemies of God till they are saved.

There is no mention of faith or acceptance in those verses. It's besides the point & already addressed elsewhere.

Rom 5:19 For even as, through the disobedience of the one man, THE MANY were constituted sinners, thus also, through the obedience of the One, THE MANY shall be constituted just."

The first "many" in v.19 are all fallen "constituted sinners".

Paul makes a parallel with how "many" will be saved in Rom.5:19b.

IOW it's the exact same "many" referred to in Rom.5:19a.

So all will be saved.

Rom 5:18 Consequently, then, as it was through one offense for ALL MANKIND for condemnation, thus also it is through one just act for ALL MANKIND for life's justifying."

There in v.18 we see that the extent of condemnation is as extensive as the justification. Justification is for all. Paul doesn't say "for ALL MANKIND", except Judas, Pharoah, & wicked people who died in their sins.

Rom 5:18 Consequently, then, as it was through one offense for ALL MANKIND for condemnation, thus also it is through one just act for ALL MANKIND for life's justifying."
Rom 5:19 For even as, through the disobedience of the one man, THE MANY were constituted sinners, thus also, through the obedience of the One, THE MANY shall be constituted just."

If Paul didn't wish to parallel both occurrences of "THE MANY" in verse 19, then he could have said "some" or "few" instead of "THE MANY" in the second occurrence. Clearly he was teaching by the parallel of two occurrences of "THE MANY" (v.19) that all those who "were made sinners" will "be made righteous".

“In Romans 5, the justification is co-extensive with the condemnation. Since all share in one, all share in the other. If only a certain portion of the human race had partaken of the sin of Adam, only a certain portion would partake of the justification of Christ. But St. Paul affirms all to have been involved in one, and all to be included in the other.”

Therefore there is salvation after death. And corrective punishment. Jesus shall see of the travail of His soul & be satisfied. Not satisfied a little bit, but the vast majority fried alive forever [or annihilated for eternity].

"He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities." (Isa.53:11). For how "many" (not few) did He "bear their iniquities"? All.

"Paul declares, however, that the effects of Christ's obedience are far greater for mankind than the effect of Adam's fall. For the third (5:15) and fourth (5:17) times in this chapter he makes explicit use of the 'qal wahomer' ("from minor to major") form of argument that is commonly used in rabbinic literature, expressed by "much more"...cf. earlier use at 5:9,10...And as in the case of the typology previously used (5:14), here, too, the form of the argument is antithetical. The grace of God extended to humanity in the event of Christ's death has abounded "for the many" (5:15b), which corresponds to the "all" of 5:12,18. The free gift given by God in Christ more than matches the sin of Adam and its effects; it exceeds it..."

"Contrasts are also seen in the results of the work of each. Adam's trespass or disobedience has brought condemnation (κατάκριμα, 5:18); through his act many were made sinners (5:19). Christ's "act of righteousness" results in "justification of life" (δικαίωσιν ζωῆς) for all (5:18). The term δικαίωσιν can be translated as "justification" (NIV, NRSV; but RSV has "acquittal") - the opposite of "condemnation". The word ζωῆς ("of life") is a genitive of result, providing the outcome of justification, so that the phrase may be rendered "justification resulting in life". 108...

108. BDAG 250 (δικαίωσιν): "acquittal that brings life". The construction is variously called a "genitive of apposition", an "epexegetical genitive" or "genitive of purpose". Cf. BDF 92 (S166). The meaning is the same in each case: justification which brings life."

"The universality of grace in Christ is shown to surpass the universality of sin. Christ's "act of righteousness" is the opposite of Adam's "tresspass" and equivalent to Christ's "obedience", which was fulfilled in his being obedient unto death (Phil 2:8). The results of Christ's righteous action and obedience are "justification resulting in life for all persons"...5:18...and "righteousness" for "many" (5:19). The term "many" in 5:19 is equivalent to "all persons", and that is so for four reasons: (1) the parallel in 5:18 speaks in its favor; (2) even as within 5:19 itself, "many were made sinners" applies to all mankind, so "many will be made righteous" applies to all; (3) the same parallelism appears in 5:15, at which "many" refers to "all"; and (4) the phrase "for many" is a Semitism which means "all", as in Deutero-Isaiah 52:14; 53:11-12; Mark...10:45; 14:24; Heb.12:15. The background for Paul's expression is set forth in Deutero-Isaiah, where it is said that "the righteous one"...the Lord's servant, shall make "many" to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their sins ...Isa.53:11..."

"It is significant, and even astounding, that justification is here said to be world-embracing. Nothing is said about faith as a prerequisite for justification to be effective, nor about faith's accepting it." (Paul's Letter To The Romans: A Commentary, Arland J. Hultgren, Eerdmans, 2011, 804 pg, p.227, 229)

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Nonsense. Where your post falls down here is that your premise is that the sciptures of ROMANS 5 "the many" is in reference to the unrepentant wicked after the second coming when the scripture context proves that "the many" here are in reference to those who are of faith and accept the gift of God's grace before the second coming. There is nowhere in these scriptures that say, imply or teach that the unrepentant wicked receive eternal life after the second coming anywhere.

ROMANS 5:18-19 is teachings that all men have sinned and are condemned in sin but that through the act of God's grace and justice and judgement in sending his own son to die on the cross for our sins ALL who accept the gift of Gods' grace by faith in Christ can be reconcilled to God and receive God's forgiveness. The MANY here are the saved. Note it does not say ALL will be saved and there is no scripture that says that the unrepentant wicked will be saved anywhere in these scriptures. Your just repeating yourself without addressing anything shared with you. This has already been addressed many times in this thread with one of the most recent in post # 1429 linked.

Your simply cutting and pasting the same posts from websites and repeating yourself while ignoring what is shared with you again.

ROMANS 5:13-21
[13], For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
[14], nevertheless death reigned from adam to moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
[15], BUT NOT AS THE OFFENSE, SO ALSO IS THE FREE GIFT. FOR IF THROUGH THE OFFENSE OF ONE MANY BE DEAD, MUCH MORE THE GRACE OF GOD, AND THE GIFT BY GRACE, WHICH IS BY ONE MAN, JESUS CHRIST, HAS ABOUNDED TO MANY.
[16], And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, BUT THE FREE GIFT IS OF MANY OFFENSES TO JUSTIFICATION.
[17], For if by one man's offense death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance OF GRACE AND OF THE GIFT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL REIGN IN LIFE BY ONE, JESUS CHRIST.
[18], Therefore as by the offense of one judgment came on all men to condemnation; EVEN SO BY THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF ONE THE FREE GIFT CAME ON ALL MEN TO JUSTIFICATION OF LIFE.
[19], FOR AS BY ONE MAN'S DISOBEDIENCE MANY WERE MADE SINNERS, SO BY THE OBEDIENCE OF ONE SHALL MANY BE MADE RIGHTEOUS.
[20], Moreover the law entered, that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, GRACE DID MUCH MORE ABOUND:
[21], That as sin has reigned to death, even so might GRACE REIGN THROUGH RIGHTEOUSNESS TO ETERNAL LIFE BY JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD.

Note here that the scriptures do not teach what you are saying at all. They teach we are all sinners and the wages of sin is death but Gods’ free gift of GRACE comes through JESUS Christ giving his life for our sins. Gods’ free gift of GRACE is conditional on us believing and following God’s Word through FAITH!

EPHESIANS 2:8-9 [8], FOR BY GRACE ARE YOU SAVED THROUGH FAITH; AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES: IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD: [9], Not of works, lest any man should boast.

There is no salvation if we do not hold out the hand of faith because whatsoever is not of faith is SIN *ROMANS 14:23 and those who practice known unrepentant sin do not enter the kingdom of heaven because they reject the free gift of God’s dear son and count the blood of the covenant an unholy thing doing despite to the Spirit of God’s Grace *HEBREWS 10:26-27; ROMANS 6:23

Sorry dear friend these scriptures say nowhere that the unrepentant wicked receive eternal life after the second coming.

The scriptures teach that...

1. The unrepentant wicked do not receive eternal life *JOHN 3:36
2. The unrepentant wicked are destroyed after the second coming *2 THESSALONIANS 1:9
3. The unrepentant wicked partake of the second resurrection of condemnation *JOHN 5:28-29
4. The unrepentant wicked in the second resurrection of condemnation partake of the second death in the Lake of fire *REVELATION 20:6; REVELATION 21:7-8.
5. There is no more resurrections after the second death and no more death.

Sorry dear friend, it seems God's Word disagrees with you.

ClementofA said:

Nothing in 1 Cor.15:22-28 says anyone gets a destruction into the endless oblivion of nonexistence that has no end.

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As posted earlier the scriptures as shown in context here is talking about the kingdom of God or God's kingdom. The saved are already a part of Gods' kingdom so already subject to Christs dominion as they are already a part of God's kingdom so the scriptures here are NOT in reference to God's people being put under his Feet. The scriptures here are in reference to the ENEMIES of God which are the wicked being put "UNDER HIS FEET". The scriptures here do not say anywhere that the wicked receive everlasting life at the second coming. They are put under Christs feet and receive God's vengence and are destroyed according to the scriptures *1 THESSALONIANS 1:9 and receive their pounishment in the lake of fire which is the second death. This death is eternal. *REVELATION 2:11; REVELATION 20:6; REVELATION 21:8. Sorry your in error here dear friend.

ClementofA said:

After people are judged & cast into the lake of fire (LOF) there will be a new heavens & earth (Rev.20, 21). The dwelling place of God's people will be the New Jerusalem (Rev.21:2-3) & therein - there - will be no more death or pain. Yet death will remain & not be abolished in the lake of fire, for torments there will continue "into the ages of the ages" (Rev.14:11; 20:10). At the same time, "into the ages of the ages", the saints will reign (Rev.21:5). Who would they be reigning over if no one exists in the LOF? How could pain be no more everywhere while the wicked are still being tormented in the LOF at the same time the Scriptures say the saints are reigning? How could death be abolished everywhere while the second death still continues? Impossible. Neither could Love Omnipotent be "all in all" (1 Cor.15:28) while any of the wicked are still wicked and in pain being tormented.

1 Cor.15:22 For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified." 23 Yet each in his own class: the Firstfruit, Christ; thereupon those who are Christ's in His presence;" 24 thereafter the consummation, whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father, whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and power." 25 For He must be reigning until He should be placing all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy is being abolished: death. 27 For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him." 28 Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all.)" (CLV)

And the seventh messenger did sound, and there came great voices in the heaven, saying, 'The kingdoms of the world did become those of our Lord and of His Christ, and he shall reign into the ages of the ages!' (Rev.11:15)

9 And a third angel followed them, calling in loud a voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives its mark on his forehead or hand, 10 he too will drink the wine of God’s anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up into the ages of ages, and they have no respite day and night who do homage to the beast and to its image, and if any one receive the mark of its name. (Rev.14:9-11)

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. (Rev.19:20)

and the Devil, who is leading them astray, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are the beast and the false prophet, and they shall be tormented day and night -- into the ages of the ages. (Rev.20:10)

3No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be within the city, and His servants will worship Him. 4 They will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads. 5 And night shall not be any more, and no need of a lamp, and light of the sun; for the Lord God shall shine upon them, and they shall reign into the ages of ages. (Rev.22:3-5)

The verses above indicate Christ & the saints shall be reigning "into the ages of the ages", including the millenial age & the age when the lake of fire (= the 2nd death) is abolished. But 1 Cor.15:25 says Christ's reign is UNTIL He has put all enemies under His feet. Since He is still reigning at the time of Revelation 20-22, all enemies are not yet under His feet. So neither is God yet "All in all" (1 Cor.15:28) nor is death [e.g. 2nd death] abolished yet.

So death is not abolished (1 Cor.15:26), since that is associated with the end of Christ's reign (v.25) & will not happen till He quits reigning. Also those humans who died a second death in the lake of fire, which is the second death, are still dead, so death is not yet abolished (v.26). As long as the second death remains & is not abolished, death is not abolished as per v.26.

Neither is "all rule and authority and power" yet nullified (1 Cor.15:24) by Revelation 21-22. There are still kings in the earth (Rev.21:24). There is still the throne of the Lamb & the saints reigning (22:3,5). So neither is death abolished or God "all in all" (1 Cor.15:28). God cannot be "all in all" (1 Cor.15:28) while there are still those in the second death & those being tormented in the lake of fire (Rev.14:9-11; 19:20; 20:10).

In Revelation 22:2 we also have leaves that are for the healing of the nations. Who at this time would need healing?

Eventually God will be making all new (Rev.21:5) & will be "in all" (1 Cor.15:28).

The abolishing of death means an end to the death of those in the second death, which means their resurrection "in Christ" as per 1 Cor.15:22-28.

Fortunately no "eternal death" ever appears in the Sacred Scriptures (66 books of the Bible). To the contrary, death will be abolished (1 Cor.15:26).

"Just as surely as the abolition of slavery entails freedom for those formerly enslaved, the abolition of death entails life for those formerly dead."

1 Cor.15:25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.

How many will be "under His feet"? Just enemies or all:

1 Cor.15:27 For “He has put in subjection all under His feet.” But when it may be said that all has been put in subjection, it is evident that the One having put in subjection all to Him is excepted.

So there is only one exception to "all" to be "put...under his feet". Then God will be "in" "all", hence universal salvation:

1 Cor.15:28 And when all shall be subjected unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all under him, that God may be all in all.

God as "all in all" (1 Cor.15:28) has nothing to do with authority, but God "in" every being who ever lived. "To say that "all in all" signifies "the manifestation of God's supremacy"...is very far indeed from the truth...When we say "Christ is my all," what do we mean? That He is our Lord? Yes, and our Saviour and Friend and our Lover, our Wisdom and our Righteousness, and our Holiness--He is everything to us!...And that is just what God wishes to be and what He will be!...Will He be this only in some? No! He will be All in all!...we have said that when the last enemy [death] is abolished, then the Son abdicates and God becomes All in all. If there were still enmity we might imagine God being over all, but with all enmity gone, it is easy to see how He can become All in all...The "kingdom" is given up to the Father, after all sovereignty and authority and power have been abrogated. What kind of a "supremacy" will God "fully manifest" which has no power, no authority, no sovereignty? Thank God, all these elements, which characterized government during the eons, will be utterly unnecessary when the Son of God is finished with His "mediatorial" work. Instead of God's supremacy being fully manifested at that time, it will be entirely absent, and God, as Father, will guide His family by the sweet constraint of love."

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The rest of your post here is old cut and paste addressed elsewhere and not relevant to the scriptures we are discussing in 1 CORINTHIANS 15:22-28 as the context shows this....

1 CORINTHAINS 15:10-34
[10], BUT BY THE GRACE OF GOD I AM WHAT I AM: AND HIS GRACE WHICH WAS BESTOWED ON ME WAS NOT IN VAIN; BUT I LABORED MORE ABUNDANTLY THAN THEY ALL: YET NOT I, BUT THE GRACE OF GOD WHICH WAS WITH ME.
[11], Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and SO YOU BELIEVED.
[12], Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
[13], But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
[14], And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
[15], Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
[16], For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
[17], And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; you are yet in your sins.
[18], Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
[19], If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
[20], BUT NOW IS CHRIST RISEN FROM THE DEAD, AND BECOME THE FIRST FRUITS OF THEM THAT SLEPT.

Note the context is to BELIEVERS not unbelievers or the unrepentant wicked after the second coming…

[21], For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
[22], FOR AS IN ADAM ALL DIE, EVEN SO IN CHRIST SHALL ALL BE MADE ALIVE.

Note in Adam all are under sin and death and IN CHRIST that is ALL IN CHRIST shall be made alive. This is a reference to the saved not the unsaved and the unrepentant wicked who do not receive the free gift of God’s GRACE through faith *EPHESIANS 2:8-9 which is the CONDITION of receiving Gods’ free gift of grace.

[23], But every man in his own order: CHRIST THE FIRST FRUITS; AFTERWARD THEY THAT ARE CHRIST'S AT HIS COMING.

Note Christ is the first fruits of the dead and those that are his (the saved) after His coming.
At His coming the scriptures teach that the unrepentant wicked are DESTROYED *2 THESSALONIANS 1:9.

[24], THEN COMES THE END, WHEN HE SHALL HAVE DELIVERED UP THE KINGDOM TO GOD, EVEN THE FATHER; WHEN HE SHALL HAVE PUT DOWN ALL RULE AND ALL AUTHORITY AND POWER.
[25], FOR HE MUST REIGN, TILL HE HAS PUT ALL ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.

Note JESUS gives all things back to the father when all the unrepentant wicked (ALL ENEMIES) are put under His feet. “ALL RULE and AUTHORITY” also a reference to His ENEMIES “ For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” *EPHESIANS 6:12. Your claims that these scriptures are in reference to those “IN CHRIST” (the saved) is not biblical.

[26], THE LAST ENEMY THAT SHALL BE DESTROYED IS DEATH.

Note the reference here to the second death in REVELATION 20:14 and REVELATION 21:8 where the wicked are destroyed.

[27], FOR HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIS FEET. BUT WHEN HE SAID ALL THINGS ARE PUT UNDER HIM, IT IS MANIFEST THAT HE IS EXCEPTED, WHICH DID PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIM.
[28], AND WHEN ALL THINGS SHALL BE SUBDUED TO HIM, THEN SHALL THE SON ALSO HIMSELF BE SUBJECT TO HIM THAT PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIM, THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

Note the CONTEXT here to ALL THINGS “UNDER HIS FEET” has been already established to “HIS ENEMIES” already stated in 1 CORINTHIANS 15:25 and DEATH 1 CORINTHIANS 15:26 which is the “SECOND DEATH where the unrepentant wicked go and the devil and his angels are destroyed *MATTHEW 25:41; REVELATION 21:7-8. This proves your in error for ignoring the scripture context dear friend.

[29], Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
[30], And why stand we in jeopardy every hour?
[31], I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our LORD, I die daily.
[32], If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantages it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.
[33], Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.
[34], Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

It also says no where in these scriptures anywhere that the unrepentant wicked receive eternal life after the second coming.

According to the scriptures alone…

1. The unrepentant wicked do not receive eternal life *JOHN 3:36
2. The unrepentant wicked are destroyed after the second coming *2 THESSALONIANS 1:9
3. The unrepentant wicked partake of the second resurrection of condemnation *JOHN 5:28-29
4. The unrepentant wicked in the second resurrection of condemnation partake of the second death in the Lake of fire *REVELATION 20:6; REVELATION 21:7-8.
5. There is no more resurrections after the second death and no more death.

Sorry dear friend, it seems God's Word disagrees with you.

FineLinen said:

You poor dear soul. Will you ever learn to separate your words from His? I see the cows rounding the bend, will they make it back before you?

Every created thing (pan ktisma).

Every creature in a still wider antiphonal circle beyond the circle of angels (from ktizw, for which see 1 Timothy 4:4 ; James 1:18 ), from all the four great fields of life (in heaven, upon the earth, under the earth as in verse James 3 , with on the sea epi th qalassh added). No created thing is left out.

This universal chorus of praise to Christ from all created life reminds one of the profound mystical passage in Romans 8:20-22 concerning the sympathetic agony of creation (ktisi) in hope of freedom from the bondage of corruption.

If the trail of the serpent is on all creation, it will be ultimately thrown off. Saying (legonta). Masculine (construction according to sense, personifying the created things) if genuine, though some MSS. have legonta (grammatical gender agreeing with panta) present active participle of legw, to say. And to the Lamb (kai twi arniwi). Dative case.

Praise and worship are rendered to the Lamb precisely as to God on the throne.

Note separate articles here in the doxology as in Romans 4:11 and the addition of to krato (active power) in place of iscu (reserve of strength) in Romans 5:12 . -A.T. Robertson Word Pictures-

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As posted else where the scriptures here say NO WHERE that the unrepentant wicked receive eternal life anywhere after the second coming.

According to the scriptures alone…

1. The unrepentant wicked do not receive eternal life *JOHN 3:36
2. The unrepentant wicked are destroyed after the second coming *2 THESSALONIANS 1:9
3. The unrepentant wicked partake of the second resurrection of condemnation *JOHN 5:28-29
4. The unrepentant wicked in the second resurrection of condemnation partake of the second death in the Lake of fire *REVELATION 20:6; REVELATION 21:7-8.
5. There is no more resurrections after the second death and no more death.

Sorry dear friend, it seems God's Word disagrees with you.