George Floyd: More to the story.

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It's not about submission, it's about solidarity. Good. Don't stay silent. No one wants to bully you, trust me. No one wants to control what you say. There are thousands, no, millions, of white men who think like you. There are groups that you can join with a bunch of white men who think like you. One of them is the alt-right. I'm sure they'll be very happy to have you. There are many many more than you can join. I'm sure you'll feel right at home, there.

You do understand that there are white people protesting too, right? Who is 'they?'

Fun fact: Many protests are being hijacked by white supremacist groups. Please, tell your fellow 'brothers in Christ' to leave the protests.

Being a little judgemental there, aren't ya? Yeah, plenty of people you can feel comfortable with too.
 
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Bringing that up is an attempt to cast anyone who brings up facts you may or may not like in a negative light.
No, it’s an attempt to focus on what’s important.

You keep talking about the whole story, but the whole story was what happened that day. Not two years ago, not two weeks, that day. It doesn’t matter if Floyd was the worst person on Earth, it doesn’t make what happened to him justified, and it doesn’t clear them of their wrongdoing. His criminal history is not a relevant fact, here, and bringing it up is, at best, an attempt to distract from the actual events of that day and cast some shadow off the people who were actually in the wrong.
 
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What says even more is that you think you can read my mind.
I don't have to read your mind. Your words say it all for the world to see.
 
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I'll referencing anyone I please. I started this thread. If you don't like it, then please leave.
It makes sense that you would want "your thread" to stay on topic. And I choose to stay, thank you very much.
 
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No, it’s an attempt to focus on what’s important.

You keep talking about the whole story, but the whole story was what happened that day. Not two years ago, not two weeks, that day. It doesn’t matter if Floyd was the worst person on Earth, it doesn’t make what happened to him justified, and it doesn’t clear them of their wrongdoing. His criminal history is not a relevant fact, here, and bringing it up is, at best, an attempt to distract from the actual events of that day and cast some shadow off the people who were actually in the wrong.

Well, maybe you can apply for the job of prosecuting attorney so you can make that case in court. Tell them that there are no other facts that matter other than what we saw on that video. Tell them that it doesn't matter if Loyd violently resisted or whatever else he might have done that caused the cops to end up having to restrain him.

And once again (before you and others who can't keep using tunnel vision in your reasoning), I never said that killing the guy was justified.
 
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Who is that?

A football player who put out a statement that he doesn't respect people who take a knee rather than stand for the national anthem, and they disrespect the flag of our country. As a result, a bunch of people who were offended by his views bullied him into making an apology for his statements.
 
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A football player who put out a statement that he doesn't respect people who take a knee rather than stand for the national anthem, and they disrespect the flag of our country. As a result, a bunch of people who were offended by his views bullied him into making an apology for his statements.
Has he said his apology was caused by bullying, or did you just assume it was caused by bullying
 
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Being a little judgemental there, aren't ya? Yeah, plenty of people you can feel comfortable with too.
No, I'm not being judgmental at all. I'm speaking facts. There are millions of white men that think like you. And you can join your fellow 'brothers in Christ' in those groups. Nope. I definitely would not feel comfortable in any white nationalist group. I am the ultimate enemy to them.
 
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Has he said his apology was caused by bullying, or did you just assume it was caused by bullying

People who are bullied into doing something don't say they did it because they were bullied.
 
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No, I'm not being judgmental at all. I'm speaking facts. There are millions of white men that think like you. And you can join your fellow 'brothers in Christ' in those groups. Nope. I definitely would not feel comfortable in any white nationalist group. I am the ultimate enemy to them.

What do white nationalists have to do with any of this? And why are you making racist statements?
 
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People who are bullied into doing something don't say they did it because they were bullied.
He is a grown man, and as a football player, I doubt very seriously that someone could bully him into doing something he did not want to do.
 
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He is a grown man, and as a football player, I doubt very seriously that someone could bully him into doing something he did not want to do.

Then you clearly don't understand that a person's job and reputation can be threatened no matter what size or age a person is.
 
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A football player who put out a statement that he doesn't respect people who take a knee rather than stand for the national anthem, and they disrespect the flag of our country. As a result, a bunch of people who were offended by his views bullied him into making an apology for his statements.
It's interesting that Chauvin chose to use his knees to end Floyd's life...especially with this widespread knowledge of what kneeling has become synonymous with....
 
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What do white nationalists have to do with any of this? And why are you making racist statements?
They share your same sentiments that you have posted in this thread. Which racist statement have I made? Quote me, please.
 
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Then you clearly don't understand that a person's job and reputation can be threatened no matter what size or age a person is.
I wonder what he would think of your poor assessment of his character, especially if he was genuinely apologetic.
 
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Well, maybe you can apply for the job of prosecuting attorney so you can make that case in court. Tell them that there are no other facts that matter other than what we saw on that video. Tell them that it doesn't matter if Loyd violently resisted or whatever else he might have done that caused the cops to end up having to restrain him.

And once again (before you and others who can't keep using tunnel vision in your reasoning), I never said that killing the guy was justified.
The cop used excessive force...that was way more than 'restraining.'
 
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Then you clearly don't understand that a person's job and reputation can be threatened no matter what size or age a person is.
His job was not threatened. And his reputation wasn't either. Who cares if he thinks people taking a knee are disrespectful? Who is he, anyway? A footballer doesn't like people taking a knee....and? Did anyone ask him what he thinks of these people? If his job is to play football then he should focus on learning the plays, not sharing his opinions.
 
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