Was the Sabbath given to man at creation as a special day to worship God?

Did Adam and Eve keep each seventh-day Sabbath?

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Yes, but James is talking about the points (commands within the whole law) that you stumble at..James 2:10...For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumble at one point is guilty of breaking ALL of it...
I might have picked up on the wrong verse I think. These things happen.
 
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Please show us where the term “Sabbath” was used in Genesis?

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It's definitely there.

But, thanks to the English translation.. unless you look it up, you miss it. In Genesis 2:2-3 the Hebrew word sabat (sabbath, Strong's Hebrew: 7673. שָׁבַת (shabath) -- to) is translated rested.

Genesis 2:2-3 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested H7673 on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because on that day He rested from all the work of creation that He had accomplished.

Strong's Number H7673 matches the Hebrew שָׁבַת (shabath),
which occurs 73 times in 67 verses in the Hebrew concordance of the KJV. -blueletterbible​
 
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Jesus must have meant the Sabbath was made for Jew Man because there is not one piece of evidence that man anywhere ever kept the seventh-day.
No trace in the Asian race, Black race or the Caucasian race.
So the sinners don't keep God's Sabbath.. big deal.

I've heard the secular say from time to time. "No rest for the wicked." They are exactly right. They have no rights to God's Sabbath-rest.

So, are you a sinner that you don't want to exercise your covenant rights by keeping the Sabbath? .. I didn't say, keeping it legalistically.

Observing the Sabbath-rest is a covenant right, not a bondage. Keeping the law of God is keeping the enlightening teachings of God. The word 'law' is not to incite rebellion. It's indicative of spiritual law for our advantage. A law is indicative of having rights.

But there are those who've made it into bondage, ain't that a shame? For the Christian under grace.. all covenant rights come to us through Jesus Christ.
The other verses you posted are fill ins to make your post seem important. They do not prove anything, just like all your postings.
Your arguments prove less than nothing because you don't even use scripture support for your arguments.
God had 4000 years to get the word out that man was supposed to observe the Sabbath command given only to Israel and to this day there is absolutely no record of any nation except Israel being asked to observe it.
A repeat of your previous argument that gains nothing by repetition.
If the Sabbath command had a "halo" around it making it stand out from all the rest of the ten commandments would you not believe Someone like Ellen would have come along thousands of years before revealing it to all mankind?
That makes no sense whatsoever because there's no halo around any of the scriptures that we are commanded by God or Jesus to obey.
Since it was the most important command it would seem like Moses would have said something about it in Genesis now wouldn't you think?
God told Moses to write it down. In Hebrew it's clearly there in Genesis 2:2-3. In the English translation that uses "rested".. no one therefore thought that the word Sabbath was there.

Too bad that Christian's who use the Bible to argue, don't actually fact check the original Hebrew.
All Moses wrote of the day was God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it, sanctified one day, the day He rested.
That is the verse I'm talking about.
Moses recorded what had taken place before the flood and not one mention of the desecration of the "haloed" Sabbath commandment.
If the command was given only to Israel then why did the apostle Paul teach about it to the Gentiles? Was it just to tell them something that they didn't have to obey?

I'm not legalistic about observing the Sabbath because I'm a Gentile. I avail myself of what the apostle Paul taught in Col.2:16-17
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.​

so I have my work to do but I also get my rest everyday.

But I don't see any biblical authority that tells us that Gentiles can ignore the observance of the Sabbath's influence just by saying that it's only for Israel/Jews. Nonsense.

What do you think that Jesus was talking about when he said "All you who are weary and heavy laden come unto Me and I will give you rest." (Mat.11:28)
Or was Jesus only offering that to Israel/Jews so it's not for the Gentiles? Or is it somehow independent of Sabbath/rest because it was Jesus who said it, the author of salvation to the Gentiles?

These verses say that it's for all who are under grace, not under law,

Hebrews 4:1,3-5,2,8,10
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 Seeing therefore it remains that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief.

2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later (or still) about a day of rest.
9 Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God's people. (the Jews already observe the Sabbath, so who else can be identified as God's people?.. those through Jesus Christ)
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

Observing this rest assures that we are not resting as a legalistic deed to display our faith, but receiving and enjoying a grace from God by faith.
 
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It's definitely there.

But, thanks to the English translation.. unless you look it up, you miss it. In Genesis 2:2-3 the Hebrew word sabat (sabbath, Strong's Hebrew: 7673. שָׁבַת (shabath) -- to) is translated rested.

Genesis 2:2-3 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested H7673 on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because on that day He rested from all the work of creation that He had accomplished.

Strong's Number H7673 matches the Hebrew שָׁבַת (shabath),
which occurs 73 times in 67 verses in the Hebrew concordance of the KJV. -blueletterbible​
Was the Sabbath day made for man or God?
 
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A superb example of changing the scripture to suit your needs.

I John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his (The Fathers) commandments.

See the interpolation (The Fathers), you are forced to do that.
Just in case someone sees 'his commandments' and looks for his commandments in John's first letter.

No, I simply want to understand what John is saying, not twist his Word's to promote this or that wind of doctrine. So I don't have to omit Scriptures like many do, in order to defend my religious lifestyle. I don't think you are doing it on purpose, no doubt you truly believe that Jesus created His own Commandments. But the Bible doesn't teach such nonsense, religious man does.

So lets just post what He said, and examine them together. Then, when I am done, if you disagree, show me why.

I John 3:
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, (God) because we keep his (God's ) commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his (God's) sight.

23 And this is his (God's) commandment, That we should believe on the name of his (Gods) Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he (God) gave us commandment.

24 And he that keepeth his (God's) commandments dwelleth in him, (God) and he in him. (God) And hereby we know that he (God) abideth in us, by the Spirit which he (God) hath given us.

And so to be sure "God" gave us the Commandment we should go to the Holy Scriptures which define God's Commandments and see if this Commandment "to Love one another" is there.

Lev. 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

But maybe this is just a fluke, maybe you are right, and John isn't talking about the Commandments the Word of God which Became Flesh gave men before He became a Man. So let's look at some more Scriptures just to make sure. I don't want to falsely accuse you of twisting scriptures.

Matt. 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

But whose Commandments do we keep? The Pharisees? The Popes? This man asked Jesus the same question.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

There it is again David.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

It seems Jesus is pretty clear about whose Word's He brought to us.

Men have been completely convinced to believe lies and deception since before the earth was flat. Since the serpent convinced Eve God's Commandment made her blind.

Likewise, you have been convinced that Jesus taught different Commandments than His Father who sent Him.

You are free to believe as you like. If you still want to believe these falsehoods, even after they have been shown to you, you are free to do so.

I am simply "loving you as Jesus loved me", as the Commandment implies.

I would suggest to you, that you follow some of your own advice.

Stop twisting the scripture.

In His Love

SM
 
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I know what he is saying. Those who have had brit milah, keep Torah and believe in Yeshua are not estranged from Him.


Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. Galatians 5:1-4


Those who become circumcised are debtors to keep the whole law, if which they are seeking to be justified by the law of Moses.

These had been deceived by those who practice Judaism, a religion that rejects Jesus as Messiah and LORD.


The law of Moses has been nailed to the cross, and abolished in His flesh, have been set aside and done away with.


Those who are in Christ are dead to the law of Moses.



Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.
Romans 7:4




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The serpent already the evil one before cast out from heaven to this earth...iniquity was found in Him...

You didn't answer the question. How did the serpent get into the Garden where Adam and Eve were? I know Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden because they listened to another voice than God's. But the question I asked you was "How did the Serpent make it into the Garden of Eve"?
 
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You didn't answer the question. How did the serpent get into the Garden where Adam and Eve were? I know Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden because they listened to another voice than God's. But the question I asked you was "How did the Serpent make it into the Garden of Eve"?
I said the (devil) or serpent was cast out of heaven to this earth...Rev 12:9..The great dragon was hurled down- the ancient serpent called the devil or satan who leads the whole world astray was hurled to the earth and his angels with him...
 
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So the sinners don't keep God's Sabbath.. big deal.

I've heard the secular say from time to time. "No rest for the wicked." They are exactly right. They have no rights to God's Sabbath-rest.

So, are you a sinner that you don't want to exercise your covenant rights by keeping the Sabbath? .. I didn't say, keeping it legalistically.
All you are doing is trying to stir the pot. Your post is a bunch of bologna from the first sentence to the last.
Observing the Sabbath-rest is a covenant right, not a bondage. Keeping the law of God is keeping the enlightening teachings of God. The word 'law' is not to incite rebellion. It's indicative of spiritual law for our advantage. A law is indicative of having rights.

But there are those who've made it into bondage, ain't that a shame? For the Christian under grace.. all covenant rights come to us through Jesus Christ.
Your arguments prove less than nothing because you don't even use scripture support for your arguments.
A repeat of your previous argument that gains nothing by repetition.
That makes no sense whatsoever because there's no halo around any of the scriptures that we are commanded by God or Jesus to obey.
God told Moses to write it down. In Hebrew it's clearly there in Genesis 2:2-3. In the English translation that uses "rested".. no one therefore thought that the word Sabbath was there.

Too bad that Christian's who use the Bible to argue, don't actually fact check the original Hebrew.
That is the verse I'm talking about.

If the command was given only to Israel then why did the apostle Paul teach about it to the Gentiles? Was it just to tell them something that they didn't have to obey?

I'm not legalistic about observing the Sabbath because I'm a Gentile. I avail myself of what the apostle Paul taught in Col.2:16-17
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.​

so I have my work to do but I also get my rest everyday.

But I don't see any biblical authority that tells us that Gentiles can ignore the observance of the Sabbath's influence just by saying that it's only for Israel/Jews. Nonsense.

What do you think that Jesus was talking about when he said "All you who are weary and heavy laden come unto Me and I will give you rest." (Mat.11:28)
Or was Jesus only offering that to Israel/Jews so it's not for the Gentiles? Or is it somehow independent of Sabbath/rest because it was Jesus who said it, the author of salvation to the Gentiles?

These verses say that it's for all who are under grace, not under law,

Hebrews 4:1,3-5,2,8,10
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 Seeing therefore it remains that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief.

2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later (or still) about a day of rest.
9 Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God's people. (the Jews already observe the Sabbath, so who else can be identified as God's people?.. those through Jesus Christ)
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

Observing this rest assures that we are not resting as a legalistic deed to display our faith, but receiving and enjoying a grace from God by faith.

Your post is nothing but a bunch of nonsense, pure bologna from the first sentence to the last.​
 
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I said the (devil) or serpent was cast out of heaven to this earth...Rev 12:9

God cast satan to earth, but how did it get into the Garden?, that was my question.

Gen. 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Do you believe God drove them out of the earth? Or just the Garden of Eden? So in your religion, how did the serpent get into the Garden of Eden to provide Eve with "another voice" to choose from?
 
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I said the (devil) or serpent was cast out of heaven to this earth...Rev 12:9..The great dragon was hurled down- the ancient serpent called the devil or satan who leads the whole world astray was hurled to the earth and his angels with him...
Here I thought Studyman is supposed to have all the answers. Seems like he does a lot of stumbling. We all, according to him, are being led by people that have interpreted scripture wrong. He is here to set us straight?
 
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Bob S said "(the Jews already observe the Sabbath, so who else can be identified as God's people?.. those through Jesus Christ)

We know Zacharias observed God's Sabbath, and Simeon, Anna, Jesus, etc. But where is you Biblical evidence that teaching us the Pharisees were observing God's Sabbaths.

Ez. 20:16 Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols.

17 Nevertheless mine eye spared them from destroying them, neither did I make an end of them in the wilderness.

Amos 2:4 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Judah, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have despised the law of the LORD, and have not kept his commandments, and their lies caused them to err, after the which their fathers have walked:

Jer. 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

And Jesus seems to also believe what the Law and Prophets say about the Jews and God's Laws.

Matt. 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

So your statement "the Jews already observe the Sabbath, so who else can be identified as God's people?"

Where do you get your teaching that the Jews were observing God's Sabbath Commandment?
 
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God cast satan to earth, but how did it get into the Garden?, that was my question.

Gen. 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Do you believe God drove them out of the earth? Or just the Garden of Eden? So in your religion, how did the serpent get into the Garden of Eden to provide Eve with "another voice" to choose from?
Well, the garden was on the earth where the serpent was cast down to..I don’t know how is the old earth was like in the time of Adam and Eve because it was destroyed by flood...But to answer your question i don’t know how the serpent actually get to the garden...
 
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Here I thought Studyman is supposed to have all the answers. Seems like he does a lot of stumbling. We all, according to him, are being led by people that have interpreted scripture wrong. He is here to set us straight?

Here was the conversation Bob just to catch you up.

Hark said, "YHWH is the ultimate source of everything."


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"Everything? Including evil? there is evil in our world though.."

I simply asked him a question Bob, "How did the serpent, the deceiver, the "other religious voice" get into God's garden of Eden, to provide Eve with a "Choice" between listening to God's Instruction, or the instructions of "another religious voice".

I don't think "we all" are being led by "other religious voices" Bob. But it is evident that some are. I just want to have the conversation.
 
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Well, the garden was on the earth where the serpent was cast down to..I don’t know how is the old earth was like in the time of Adam and Eve because it was destroyed by flood...But to answer your question i don’t know how the serpent actually get to the garden...

The only source we have on the subject is the Bible.

Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

God planted the garden, and put the man there. It seems reasonable to conclude that whatever is in the Garden God, placed there.

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

This says God "MADE" this deceiving serpent. Did this serpent sneak into God's Garden of Eden without God's knowledge? I don't think so.

It is written that God is no respecter of persons.

Duet. 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

So it seems God also set before Eve, life and death, blessing and cursing. There were two voices in the Garden, besides Adam and Eve. Yielding to one brings life, yielding to the other brings death. How can i have a choice, if there are no choices?

Therefore, it seems according to the Holy Scriptures, God created both Evil and Good, and "set them before us". So then didn't God place the serpent He created, into the Garden? I can find no other reasonable conclusion.

And after Adam and Eve made their choice, were they allowed to stay in the Garden God planted. No, they were driven out into the world.
 
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The only source we have on the subject is the Bible.

Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

God planted the garden, and put the man there. It seems reasonable to conclude that whatever is in the Garden God, placed there.

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

This says God "MADE" this deceiving serpent. Did this serpent sneak into God's Garden of Eden without God's knowledge? I don't think so.

It is written that God is no respecter of persons.

Duet. 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

So it seems God also set before Eve, life and death, blessing and cursing. There were two voices in the Garden, besides Adam and Eve. Yielding to one brings life, yielding to the other brings death. How can i have a choice, if there are no choices?

Therefore, it seems according to the Holy Scriptures, God created both Evil and Good, and "set them before us". So then didn't God place the serpent He created, into the Garden? I can find no other reasonable conclusion.

And after Adam and Eve made their choice, were they allowed to stay in the Garden God planted. No, they were driven out into the world.
Hello, I don’t know about that logic but it seems against the nature of God as Holy, Pure, Good, etc and for God to create an evil serpent in His creation and called it very good doesn’t sound right to me...
Psalm 92:15..The Lord has no wickedness in Him

According to Ezekiel 28:14,15 in reference to “morning star” (lucifer) the guardian cherub who became satan or the devil (serpent)....
Ezekiel 28:14,15...You were anointed as a guardian cherub ,for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God. You walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you..

Ezekiel 28:13..you were in Eden, the garden of God...

Revelation 12:7-9..Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down- that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him...

So, the evil serpent or devil was not created by God on the earth with the other animals in the garden with Adam and Eve in creation as how you interpreted scriptures..

but rather the devil or serpent was created as a guardian angel in heaven Ezekiel 28:14,15 & Rev 12:7..and wickedness was found in him..this is the origin of evil Not God as you implied...

And he lost the battle in heaven and was hurled down to the earth with his angels Rev 12:7

so maybe he transforms into an image of a serpent and came to the garden to deceive Eve..

But you need to provide more scriptures to prove your religious belief or voices...
 
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Galatians 3:15 says a Covenant cannot be changed after the death of the testator.

Jesus confirms the New Covenant:
Luke 22:20 "Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you."

After the new covenant is confirmed
Luke 23:55-56 "…they rested the Sabbath day according to the Commandment.

The apostles did this just approximately a day after confirming the new covenant. They even wrote about it decades later and never said anything about this being according to the old commandment or old covenant, etc. This was their opportunity to denounce this if it would have been wrong, and could have clarified immediately after this verse to say we no longer have to keep this commandment, or anything really.

Somehow those that want to ignore the 4th commandment have to do major changes and twisting to purely DENY these plain verses that follow in sequence. Let alone Mark 2:27 "SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN"
 
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Hello, I don’t know about that logic but it seems against the nature of God as Holy, Pure, Good, etc and for God to create an evil serpent in His creation and called it very good doesn’t sound right to me...
Psalm 92:15..The Lord has no wickedness in Him

According to Ezekiel 28:14,15 in reference to “morning star” (lucifer) the guardian cherub who became satan or the devil (serpent)....
Ezekiel 28:14,15...You were anointed as a guardian cherub ,for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God. You walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you..

Ezekiel 28:13..you were in Eden, the garden of God...

Revelation 12:7-9..Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down- that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him...

So, the evil serpent or devil was not created by God on the earth with the other animals in the garden with Adam and Eve in creation as how you interpreted scriptures..

but rather the devil or serpent was created as a guardian angel in heaven Ezekiel 28:14,15 & Rev 12:7..and wickedness was found in him..this is the origin of evil Not God as you implied...

And he lost the battle in heaven and was hurled down to the earth with his angels Rev 12:7

so maybe he transforms into an image of a serpent and came to the garden to deceive Eve..

But you need to provide more scriptures to prove your religious belief or voices...

I don't even know what you are rambling about here.

I said "Therefore, it seems according to the Holy Scriptures, God created both Evil and Good, and "set them before us". So then didn't God place the serpent He created, into the Garden? I can find no other reasonable conclusion."

To which you replied "So, the evil serpent or devil was not created by God on the earth with the other animals in the garden with Adam and Eve in creation as how you interpreted scriptures..

Who knows what you are trying to say now.

But if I listen to the God of the Bible, here is what HE says;

Gen. 1:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

I thought maybe you might pick up on the talking snake thing, but alas, you didn't.

Is. 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

And again:

Col. 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

And Again:

Duet 30:14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;

I'm not sure what "voice" taught you that it goes against God's Nature to create right and Good and wrong and Evil, and then set them before us to choose. Just as HE did for Eve. I'm not sure how many more scriptures you need before you will believe His Word's in Genesis. Religious tradition is a powerful deceptive force we are warned about over and over and over.

I hope you might consider these warnings.
 
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You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. Galatians 5:1-4

Those who become circumcised are debtors to keep the whole law, if which they are seeking to be justified by the law of Moses.

The law of Moses has been nailed to the cross, and abolished in His flesh, have been set aside and done away with.
JLB

The key is "if which they are seeking to be justified by the law of Moses". The law of Moses has not been nailed to the cross, and abolished in His flesh...the CURSE has...we now have grace when we sin

Galatians 3:13
 
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