klutedavid
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We have a standoff regarding the Pharisees and the law. Your saying the Pharisees ignored the law and followed their own law. I am saying the Pharisees followed the law, added and altered some laws.You are so lost on what the Pharisees are about. They invented laws, that's the point. They followed their own oral laws and traditions like the Talmud, loving their own laws but ignoring the commandments of God, hence why he was quoting the commandments to them because they were IGNORING THOSE LAWS. So obey any other law than God's law won't make you righteous. Even if obeying God's laws cannot make us completely righteous doesn't mean we don't do it. You are just like the Pharisees ignoring God's law thinking what you are doing is making You righteous, following your own law. Even if you believe that you aren't. The fact of the matter is YOU ARE FOLLOWING SOME TYPE OF LAW.
So who is right, me or you?
How about we let Paul answer that question, he was a Pharisee.
Philippians 3:5-6
Circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless.
So as far as Paul knows he was obedient to the law, as it stands. That is what 'found blameless' means.
There is a big difference between altering and adding some laws, and saying the Pharisees ignored all the commandments.
That is a big step to take; the Pharisees ignored ALL the commandments.
I can prove that your generalization is incorrect.
I don't think that the Pharisees ignored the commandment 'thou shall not kill'.
I don't think the Pharisees ignored the commandment to 'not commit adultery'.
You must admit that you are wrong in saying, 'ignoring the commandments'
I don't think that the Pharisees 'ignoring the commandments of God', which you claimed. Is a correct statement and I need you to retract that statement, it is wrong and misleading.
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