Where was the FBI?

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It's a simple question, really. Where was the FBI while radicals and domestic terrorists were gaining strength? Were they told to stand down? Were they told to give certain groups a wide berth?

Perhaps more importantly, has the FBI now been told to pursue the individuals and groups involved? President Trump and Attorney General William Barr have identified Antifa as a domestic terrorist group. Does the FBI, which is responsible for investigating domestic terrorism, now have time and resources to investigate it?
 
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It's a simple question, really. Where was the FBI while radicals and domestic terrorists were gaining strength? Were they told to stand down? Were they told to give certain groups a wide berth?

Perhaps more importantly, has the FBI now been told to pursue the individuals and groups involved? President Trump and Attorney General William Barr have identified Antifa as a domestic terrorist group. Does the FBI, which is responsible for investigating domestic terrorism, now have time and resources to investigate it?

I agree with you .. last 3 years where were the FBI, where were the President, where were the AG .. what is going on .. last 3 and half years this country went from law and order country to a 3rd world country.. shame on us for electing someone who changed American just in 3 and half years like this .. Never Again!
 
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It's a simple question, really. Where was the FBI while radicals and domestic terrorists were gaining strength? Were they told to stand down? Were they told to give certain groups a wide berth?

Perhaps more importantly, has the FBI now been told to pursue the individuals and groups involved? President Trump and Attorney General William Barr have identified Antifa as a domestic terrorist group. Does the FBI, which is responsible for investigating domestic terrorism, now have time and resources to investigate it?

...are you suggesting the POTUS called the FBI off to carry out his chaos plan?
 
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...are you suggesting the POTUS called the FBI off to carry out his chaos plan?
I don't believe the current president would have done that.

Perhaps a prior president? One who had sympathies with certain groups.
 
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I don't believe the current president would have done that.
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pfft....he's more than demonstrated he is capable of anything.

....as a reminder, the FBI and DOJ leadership are Trump loyalist....
 
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pfft....he's more than demonstrated he is capable of anything.
Really?

I see a president who has been remarkably restrained despite being under constant attack by those making false accusations. The president has also been remarkably federalist; rather than seizing power himself Trump has made clear that governors have responsibility and authority in their own states.
 
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Really?

I see a president who has been remarkably restrained despite being under constant attack by those making false accusations. The president has also been remarkably federalist; rather than seizing power himself Trump has made clear that governors have responsibility and authority in their own states.

"You have to dominate, if you don’t dominate you’re wasting your time. They’re going to run over you, you’re going to look like a bunch of jerks. You have to dominate.” He told the governors, “You’ve got to arrest people, you have to track people, you have to put them in jail for 10 years and you’ll never see this stuff again.” “You know when other country’s watch this, they’re watching this, the next day wow, they’re really a push over. And we can’t be a push over. And we have all the resources—it’s not like we don’t have the resources. So, I don’t know what you’re doing.” “It’s a movement, if you don’t put it down it will get worse and worse…. The only time its successful is when you’re weak and most of you are weak.”
 
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Where was the FBI?
Probably inspecting female bodies at a local men's club.

Seriously, their hands are tied by the liberties and freedoms which they protect. For them to be able to catch real bad criminals with excellent resources and developed skills of concealment and circumventing legalities FBI, law enforcement in general, need to be able gather intell for which they are forbidden to have access. In order to have a warrant to do so they need proof which is impossible to obtain w/o the warrant. Citizens like you and I SHOULD and NEED to come forward and EXPOSE evil as we are commanded to do in the NT. Law enforcement needs our help. There are those of us who may overhear things which should be exposed; things which law enforcement is not nor can be privy to but one of us may be.

Many people born citizens in the USA and never having been in the military or government service have no idea of what it means to be a citizen of the USA. All of those immigrants who wish to become a citizen and go through the naturalization process become a citizen ultimately when they confess the "Oath of Allegiance:"

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God." pasted from: Oath of citizenship - Wikipedia , paragraph: "United States"

So many USA born citizens are totally ignorant and devoid of the patriotism and commitment exemplified in this Oath pledged by these citizens.



 
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I don't believe the current president would have done that.

Perhaps a prior president? One who had sympathies with certain groups.

Even if Obama used his time machine to travel from 2013 to 2020, he is not the president in 2020. Whatever failures you imagine in the FBI response, they are the current president's to own.
 
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Yes, Donald has time and again tried to use his office to go after people he considers to be personal enemies.

I see a president who has been remarkably restrained despite being under constant attack by those making false accusations.
He has been remarkably unrestrained in making false accusations and attacking other people.

Timothy Klausutis’s Full Letter to Jack Dorsey, and Twitter’s Response

The president has also been remarkably federalist; rather than seizing power himself Trump has made clear that governors have responsibility and authority in their own states.
He is unwilling to coordinate an effective response to a national emergency, the pandemic, telling the states to deal with it themselves while, at the same time, interfering with their attempts to procure supplies. However, he is willing to call the military on his own people.
 
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It's a simple question, really. Where was the FBI while radicals and domestic terrorists were gaining strength? Were they told to stand down? Were they told to give certain groups a wide berth?

Here's a simpler question: Are you assuming that there's an organized, structured group behind all these radicals and domestic terrorists?

Perhaps more importantly, has the FBI now been told to pursue the individuals and groups involved? President Trump and Attorney General William Barr have identified Antifa as a domestic terrorist group. Does the FBI, which is responsible for investigating domestic terrorism, now have time and resources to investigate it?

Investigate what, exactly?

There is no "official" ANTIFA organization, no hierarchy, no chain of command, nobody in charge.

Any psycho or gang of psychos can toss a rock through a window "in ANTIFA's name," and there's literally nobody with the clout to say, "Hey, wait a minute! These guys aren't with us!"

Because of this, there's really no way to prove who is "ANTIFA"; and on the flipside, when you get rounded up by the Feds and labeled a "domestic terrorist," there's no way for you to prove that you're not ANTIFA.

Welcome to the New America. Do yourself a favor: Don't get caught protesting... anything.
 
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Here's a simpler question: Are you assuming that there's an organized, structured group behind all these radicals and domestic terrorists?
Antifa has already been singled out as having some measure of culpability. Other groups are likely involved as well.
 
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We need actual evidence now?

You mean more than just accusations, right?
I mean...yeah?

I keep hearing it being said over and over and OVER again that Antifa is behind everything. Maybe they are, who knows, it's chaos. I'm just asking what the actual evidence is for the claim. I've asked that repeatedly, in multiple topics, and I've yet to get anything resembling a straight answer. So far, the only hint of Antifa involvement is the claim that some protestors weren't from the local area, which doesn't mean anything in and of itself.
 
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Antifa has already been singled out as having some measure of culpability. Other groups are likely involved as well.

And who is "Antifa?" Who's in charge? Who gives the orders?
 
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Florida Representative Matt Gaetz—the man who wore a gas mask on the floor of Congress to downplay the dangers of coronavirus—tweeted “Now that we clearly see Antifa as terrorists, can we hunt them down like we do in the Middle East?” Twitter hid the tweet—a tweet from a sitting congressman—as glorifying violence.

June 1, 2020
 
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