really heartbroken. just been told i cannot be used by God as am not "pure"

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

Strong in Him said:
That's a very precious gift.

sometimes i get scriptures i didnt know were in the Bible? it is weird how they just come into my mind? makes me LOL sometimes. i guess all christian sget this

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

fwGod said:
The explanation. I'd gotten an alert that you had posted a response, when I came to read it. For ever so short a time I didn't have the ability to edit my post #50.. the usual capability just wasn't there.. but I could still make a new post so I was testing it first.

ah- as an new to CF, i have never used that function . i have no idea how to edit posts

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

Sketcher said:
God can use you in some ways. Which ways are up to him.

Concerning prophesy: Beware of speaking presumptuously. When people have psychiatric or psychological problems, it is possible that they think they are hearing God, but they are not. You need to be able to discern God's voice from the voices of your own worries, insecurities, or imagination.

Concerning ANY gift: Beware of the tendency or temptation to hurt people or put yourself above them in any way, no matter how minor. That is not love.

You don't want to hurt people with your ministry. Train your mind and your spirit so that you won't when you believe you are doing the will of God.

2 Timothy 1:7, James 1:5-8, 1 Timothy 4:7-8, Romans 12:1-2, 1 Corinthians 8:1-2, 1 Corinthians 13:1-8

good advice, thanks.

oh, yes, i hope i never get proud or hurt anyone.

i thank God he has kept me from both these things!

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

i believe imagination is a gift fro God. because as christians we are sanctified our hearts can produce wonderful creativity. so yes am not a propeht but an imaginative empath.

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

Sketcher said:
God can use you in some ways. Which ways are up to him.

Concerning prophesy: Beware of speaking presumptuously. When people have psychiatric or psychological problems, it is possible that they think they are hearing God, but they are not. You need to be able to discern God's voice from the voices of your own worries, insecurities, or imagination.

Concerning ANY gift: Beware of the tendency or temptation to hurt people or put yourself above them in any way, no matter how minor. That is not love.

You don't want to hurt people with your ministry. Train your mind and your spirit so that you won't when you believe you are doing the will of God.

2 Timothy 1:7, James 1:5-8, 1 Timothy 4:7-8, Romans 12:1-2, 1 Corinthians 8:1-2, 1 Corinthians 13:1-8

to be fair most things i feel compelled to tell people are reminders of assuring them of their salvation and how Jesus sees them, so no presumption there. thsoe thigns are Biblicl. not prophecy but Biblical. it is called the minsitry of encouragemen- teaching bible truths to beleivers. for example i told someoen the other day God sang songs over them. i felt impressed to tell them Zephaniah 3: 17-19. i kept feelign strongly that scripture was for them,,,,,something in me kept saying this is what they need to hear.... because am an empath, i sense where people are in need.

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

our hearts are so beautiful before Jesus. full of His righteousness. He speaks only love and kindness to us as His children. i firmly believe God is like this to all of us.

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

Sketcher said:
God can use you in some ways. Which ways are up to him.

Concerning prophesy: Beware of speaking presumptuously. When people have psychiatric or psychological problems, it is possible that they think they are hearing God, but they are not. You need to be able to discern God's voice from the voices of your own worries, insecurities, or imagination.

Concerning ANY gift: Beware of the tendency or temptation to hurt people or put yourself above them in any way, no matter how minor. That is not love.

You don't want to hurt people with your ministry. Train your mind and your spirit so that you won't when you believe you are doing the will of God.

2 Timothy 1:7, James 1:5-8, 1 Timothy 4:7-8, Romans 12:1-2, 1 Corinthians 8:1-2, 1 Corinthians 13:1-8

i may be a bit blunt but i have never harmed anyone on this forum. beig offended is not the same as being actually wounded or hurt. btu i do agree good advice

Strong in Him · Jun 1, 2020

WrappedUpinHisLove3 said:
our hearts are so beautiful before Jesus. full of His righteousness. He speaks only love and kindness to us as His children. i firmly believe God is like this to all of us.

How can you write such beautiful words and then believe that God is not using you?

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

i do think sometimes prophetic ministry can be a bit hit and miss. sometimes it is brilliant and accurate.

i am talkign now of when OTHER people do it. when people have had God give them words for me

I remeber some years ago in church God really moving in my heart and in the others there. we had a young chap who heard from God. He gave a lovely word "there is someone here who ha been wounded, devsatated by years of abuse from a loved one, severe psychological abuse and t has affected your walk with God- your perception of who you think is God has made your soul fll with fear, each day as you wake up you are in fear...."

well i knew the word was for the lady sitting in front of me. i knew how badly her situation ahd affected her and hse had not th courage to go up.

but i could relate to the word myself- having some issues with a family member where i felt i was beign mistreated so i wen tuo to receive the word. i expected to be turned away and told "sit down, God did not mean this for you.! but he didnt. he prophesied into my life such affirmation and love from God i honestly thought i would faint....how i needed this!

so it just goes to show, Go dcanuse the same thing to bless more than one person. God has plenty t go rpund fo rall of us.

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

Strong in Him said:
How can you write such beautiful words and then believe that God is not using you?

oh i think he does...i think it is just that He speaks to my imagination.

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

Strong in Him said:
How can you write such beautiful words and then believe that God is not using you?

sometimes He speaks but ratehr than it being true prophecywe imagine it is Him more than is our flesh. but what matters is that people are blessed.

if people are blessed and the fruit is good, that is what matters

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

WrappedUpinHisLove3 said:
i do think sometimes prophetic ministry can be a bit hit and miss. sometimes it is brilliant and accurate.

i am talkign now of when OTHER people do it. when people have had God give them words for me

I remeber some years ago in church God really moving in my heart and in the others there. we had a young chap who heard from God. He gave a lovely word "there is someone here who ha been wounded, devsatated by years of abuse from a loved one, severe psychological abuse and t has affected your walk with God- your perception of who you think is God has made your soul fll with fear, each day as you wake up you are in fear...."

well i knew the word was for the lady sitting in front of me. i knew how badly her situation ahd affected her and hse had not th courage to go up.

but i could relate to the word myself- having some issues with a family member where i felt i was beign mistreated so i wen tuo to receive the word. i expected to be turned away and told "sit down, God did not mean this for you.! but he didnt. he prophesied into my life such affirmation and love from God i honestly thought i would faint....how i needed this!

so it just goes to show, Go dcanuse the same thing to bless more than one person. God has plenty t go rpund fo rall of us.

some misguided beleivers would say theat if the guy was really discerning in this sitaution he would have known he ws being played and wpuld have told me to sit down and stop taking ehat is not meant for me. but i disagree. i believe that we have to calim things in faith sometimes. be bold and strong. assertive.

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

if peole are blessed by ehat we bring we can say i dont know if this i s god but..and then let them decide

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

WrappedUpinHisLove3 said:
some misguided beleivers would say theat if the guy was really discerning in this sitaution he would have known he ws being played and wpuld have told me to sit down and stop taking ehat is not meant for me. but i disagree. i believe that we have to calim things in faith sometimes. be bold and strong. assertive.

mind you, i do find some christians have trouble with the idea of being self assertive. . iwhich is fair enough. i struggled with that at one point until God showed me better.

venksta · Jun 1, 2020

WrappedUpInHisLove3, this thread maybe a small thing in the universe. But I know for a fact, God gave you courage to share your heart here, with matters of the heart for God, which many of us face, and are too scared to ask for help with. On the outside it may seem a small thing, but for God, it is a very great thing. I am sure there are many here who have or will read this, who are going through similiar battles. I am sure you may start threads here seeking for help yourself, but you are also asking questions, many others want to ask and won't, for various reasons. You have chosen to not let the enemy silence you, but to open yourself up, so God may use yourself, and your fellow brothers and sisters, to help encourage you, and indirectly help many others. God Bless you for your faith, and the strength, he continues to empower with. May he continue to use you in great ways, which you will one day see from His perspective.

FutureAndAHope · Jun 1, 2020

WrappedUpinHisLove3 said:
I dont want to whine or sounds like i am feeling sorry for myself but if am honest i suppose i am a bit

i am a sincere believer- not a good one, not yet a sin free one but i do have a prophetic calling on my life i am an empath, very spiritually sensitive. i dont count these htings as making me special- we al have gifts, we are all equally loved by God. this is just how God chose to endow me. I could have been gifted with hospitality or preaching or whatever.

I have neurlogical and psychiatric impairments. this is not a whinge because i actually believe my minsitry came about due to these- from these experiences i am able to relate to many people with simialr needs and care for them. so that isnt a tragedy or a probolem. God will heal me in His own good time. i feel no guilt in meantime for being unable to do much for God. i am in a season of rest, due to recent bereavement (6 months ago) and other issues. ok, i feel some guilt but that is the devi. the only valid guilt and shame in life are those that lead to repentence. otherwise it is just self pity and low self esteem, these are not Godly attribues.

what is an issue is that i have been told God cannot use someone liek me because i am not a pure vessel for His honour because i havet ese issues.... buti know God uses people whoa re blind or death, who have MS etc to bless other people.

so why not me? sickness is caused by living in a fallen world and by sin. so my issues are no differentf rom those experienced by Joni Erackson Tada, Jennifer Rees Larcombe (before her healing), Nick Vuljic?? if those people are used by God to bless others why can't i be?

last time i checked God did not have favourites. we are all close to His heart. there are no "special" people. at all. we are of equal worth.

so , i hav ebeen blessed by God so much, He is good to me, so why can He not use me to bless others?

where in the Bible does it say we need to be free of sin, demons or sickness to be used by God? surely God starts using us just as we are and we learn to sin less or be demonised less as we walk with Him???

didnt Jesus say blessed are the poor in spirit?

You can be used by God, regardless of the struggles you have in life. Mental Heath issues are widely misunderstood, the devil often attacks believers in their minds, but over time the mature Christian will learn how to evict those attacks. But in the learning process, in the times where the devil seems to have free reign, we should be no less seeking to be used by God. God wants us to seek Him in all situations. It does not hurt to have seasons of rest however, if the battle gets too hard. To just rest in God's grace. As for sin issues, keep trying to move away from sin, as the bible says "let him/her who names the name of the LORD depart from iniquity".

Don't allow your desire to be used by God be crushed, by man or the devil. You are precious in God's sight.

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

FutureAndAHope said:
You can be used by God, regardless of the struggles you have in life. Mental Heath issues are widely misunderstood, the devil often attacks believers in their minds, but over time the mature Christian will learn how to evict those attacks. But in the learning process, in the times where the devil seems to have free reign, we should be no less seeking to be used by God. God wants us to seek Him in all situations. It does not hurt to have seasons of rest however, if the battle gets too hard. To just rest in God's grace. As for sin issues, keep trying to move away from sin, as the bible says "let him/her who names the name of the LORD depart from iniquity".

Don't allow your desire to be used by God be crushed, by man or the devil. You are precious in God's sight.

Thank you. i think i need to ttake your advice. and i really dint want sin in my life. i am working on getting it out. battle very intense though

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

venksta said:
WrappedUpInHisLove3, this thread maybe a small thing in the universe. But I know for a fact, God gave you courage to share your heart here, with matters of the heart for God, which many of us face, and are too scared to ask for help with. On the outside it may seem a small thing, but for God, it is a very great thing. I am sure there are many here who have or will read this, who are going through similiar battles. I am sure you may start threads here seeking for help yourself, but you are also asking questions, many others want to ask and won't, for various reasons. You have chosen to not let the enemy silence you, but to open yourself up, so God may use yourself, and your fellow brothers and sisters, to help encourage you, and indirectly help many others. God Bless you for your faith, and the strength, he continues to empower with. May he continue to use you in great ways, which you will one day see from His perspective.

thank you. i see so much injustice against those with MH issues and demonic posession and i think how Jesus was always so kind to them. makes me too angry to stay silent when i see it.... i have to speak out.

JacksBratt · Jun 1, 2020

WrappedUpinHisLove3 said:
I dont want to whine or sounds like i am feeling sorry for myself but if am honest i suppose i am a bit

i am a sincere believer- not a good one, not yet a sin free one but i do have a prophetic calling on my life i am an empath, very spiritually sensitive. i dont count these htings as making me special- we al have gifts, we are all equally loved by God. this is just how God chose to endow me. I could have been gifted with hospitality or preaching or whatever.

I have neurlogical and psychiatric impairments. this is not a whinge because i actually believe my minsitry came about due to these- from these experiences i am able to relate to many people with simialr needs and care for them. so that isnt a tragedy or a probolem. God will heal me in His own good time. i feel no guilt in meantime for being unable to do much for God. i am in a season of rest, due to recent bereavement (6 months ago) and other issues. ok, i feel some guilt but that is the devi. the only valid guilt and shame in life are those that lead to repentence. otherwise it is just self pity and low self esteem, these are not Godly attribues.

what is an issue is that i have been told God cannot use someone liek me because i am not a pure vessel for His honour because i havet ese issues.... buti know God uses people whoa re blind or death, who have MS etc to bless other people.

so why not me? sickness is caused by living in a fallen world and by sin. so my issues are no differentf rom those experienced by Joni Erackson Tada, Jennifer Rees Larcombe (before her healing), Nick Vuljic?? if those people are used by God to bless others why can't i be?

last time i checked God did not have favourites. we are all close to His heart. there are no "special" people. at all. we are of equal worth.

so , i hav ebeen blessed by God so much, He is good to me, so why can He not use me to bless others?

where in the Bible does it say we need to be free of sin, demons or sickness to be used by God? surely God starts using us just as we are and we learn to sin less or be demonised less as we walk with Him???

didnt Jesus say blessed are the poor in spirit?

Your answer is in post # 5... No worries..

Junia · Jun 1, 2020

JacksBratt said:
Your answer is in post # 5... No worries..

ok

really heartbroken. just been told i cannot be used by God as am not "pure"

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