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An Israeli college girl on campus. It just all depends on what you're used to. For most of human history, people went armed. In the Middle Ages, everybody carried swords. In the early West, everybody carried firearms. You do what you have to in order to be safe. What we have here in modern America, where nobody has needed guns is an anomaly, an anomaly that I'm afraid may be coming to an end, unfortunately. Israel guns 1.jpg
 
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For the most part our gun laws are state enforced with some federal enforcement. Massachusetts is tough. I had to pass an FBI background check and a state CORI check. Then on top of that the local police chiefs can decide which type of permit you get.

I knew 2 twins who both were lieutenants on the force and I got my licence to carry with no restrictions.
The city of Boston is notorious for refusing to give a license to carry without restrictions. This means I can carry concealed and loaded.

Were they BPD or Staties? That's pretty sweet you have your permit. I've heard my Sheriff is pretty good about granting those but I haven't applied yet—I'd kinda like to have the gun first. I've heard Massachusites (and really maybe all New Englanders) will go up to Vermont because of their ironically lax gun laws when trying to buy a firearm. But it's tougher nowadays to purchase across state lines.

Funnily enough, California doesn't require any kind of permit for open carry so people are fine strapped on the hip but we still need paperwork to conceal carry. Go figure. I'm hoping the gun store I like is restocked, a couple months ago right after the state shutdown, I guess there was a run on handguns and shotguns for home security. I spoke with one of the owners and he said most of their buyers were liberals who a month before that were probably supporting gun confiscation and abolishing the second amendment, then suddenly: here they were at his doorstep looking to buy a Glock.

They're good dudes though, former cops, strong 2A guys. They supply law enforcement and first responders so by law they've had to stay open, that was a clever thing to set themselves up as when they opened.

1911's are nice! I have a Sig Sauer P229 and a Ruger LCR

Sigs are great, I loved shooting a 2022 at the range a while back, they're well-made pieces. What's the P229 chambered in? .40SW?

An Israeli college girl on campus. It just all depends on what you're used to. For most of human history, people went armed. In the Middle Ages, everybody carried swords. In the early West, everybody carried firearms. You do what you have to in order to be safe. What we have here in modern America, where nobody has needed guns is an anomaly, an anomaly that I'm afraid may be coming to an end, unfortunately.View attachment 277940

Funny how in some ways that was the way things were in the U.S. 45-50 years ago. Back in the 70s and 80s my dad taught in the county adjacent to ours, big ag community, and he said it was commonplace for the farm kids to pull up in their pickup trucks with a rifle and a shotgun on the rack on the back window. If that happened today the kid would probably get a life sentence.
 
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I've heard Massachusites (and really maybe all New Englanders) will go up to Vermont because of their ironically lax gun laws when trying to buy a firearm. But it's tougher nowadays to purchase across state lines. .

Buying a handgun in a state where you are not a resident has been illegal since 1969. You can shop and pick one out, but the dealer must ship it to a dealer in your home state, where you must meet home-state requirements to take possession of it.

Some states allow out-of-state purchase of long guns, but there are restrictions.


Funnily enough, California doesn't require any kind of permit for open carry so people are fine strapped on the hip but we still need paperwork to conceal carry. .

Open-carry of guns in California has been illegal for several years now.
Having a permit doesn't matter.


Back in the 70s and 80s my dad taught in the county adjacent to ours, big ag community, and he said it was commonplace for the farm kids to pull up in their pickup trucks with a rifle and a shotgun on the rack on the back window. If that happened today the kid would probably get a life sentence.

Most of the USA was that way...back then.
 
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Open-carry of guns in California has been illegal for several years now.
Having a permit doesn't matter.

Huh, I thought it was still open carry. Ugh, give me State of Jefferson now!
 
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Coincidentally I watched the Saturday Mass live-streamed and then attended service Sunday morning and Fr. Joubran’s homilies were almost identical other then he added that we as citizens are to protest peaceably and to respect our federal and local authorities. A lot had changed in those hours between the two homilies.
 
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Every country from Japan to Spain.
Have you evidence from historical sources that from Japan to Spain everybody in the Middle Ages carried swords ?

The reality is that in most regions of Europe swords were regarded as “weapons of war”, and peasants and burghers, not belonging to the “warrior class” of medieval society, were forbidden to carry swords .
 
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Have you evidence from historical sources that from Japan to Spain everybody in the Middle Ages carried swords ?

The reality is that in most regions of Europe swords were regarded as “weapons of war”, and peasants and burghers, not belonging to the “warrior class” of medieval society, were forbidden to carry swords .

Beware that the middle age lasted from the fall of the Roman empire to the reformation. Its meaningless to speak of 1000 years in such wide terms.
 
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Beware that the middle age lasted from the fall of the Roman empire to the reformation. Its meaningless to speak of 1000 years in such wide terms.
And it is meaningless to think the solution to social disintegration is owning a gun. Yes, you might protect yourself but it doesn't fix anything. I am tempted to buy a gun but the best possible outcome would be that it quietly rusted in it's gun safe. What should I be doing that would be more useful than going out to buy a gun? For one thing, a small measure for sure, I an promoting alternatives to the two polarized political parties, the one which can't contain their glee over the riots, and the other one gleefully but more quietly hoping the reaction against the riots will help their side.
 
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Have you evidence from historical sources that from Japan to Spain everybody in the Middle Ages carried swords ?

The reality is that in most regions of Europe swords were regarded as “weapons of war”, and peasants and burghers, not belonging to the “warrior class” of medieval society, were forbidden to carry swords .
More likely they couldn't afford the luxury of a fine cutlass, so the implements they used for farming or their trade were all they had.
 
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The protesters started trouble in my daughters relatively small township. The locals came out and supported the small police force and sent the heathens packing. \o/
 
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Governor here is on television now. They are calling in Nation Guard all over the state. The looting and violence is getting out of control.
My old state of Minnesota had already called up all 1700 National Guard and I guess there is an offer of Military Police from the Feds. My new state had a riot related shooting where someone killed another in self defense. The police didn't charge him so the rioters left notice that tonight they were going to loot and vandalize and burn in 'white people's neighborhoods'. The city is in a mood in preparation for curfew. Stores closed even earlier today than yesterday.

I think the goal is to burn down the country. But exactly whose goal is it? I think that is Antifa's goal, and that of all the hard left socialists. I can't speak for anybody but it seems like ruination is important to them. Oh, and hatred. But unless they actually succeed in revolution, they guarantee a Trump victory. Just like it guaranteed a Nixon victory over Humphrey in 1968. Except Humphrey was an actual good guy.

Prayers for this crazy nation, unmoored as it is from truth and brotherly love.
 
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Huh, I thought it was still open carry. Ugh, give me State of Jefferson now!

I live in the state of Jefferson (Virginia) and the gun-grabbers are trying to ruin it too.

But 15,000 of us expressed our opposition - peacefully - last January.
 
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I live in the state of Jefferson (Virginia) and the gun-grabbers are trying to ruin it too.

But 15,000 of us expressed our opposition - peacefully - last January.

I mean the proposed state, but your point is still made. I've seen a lot of what Northam and the liberal legislature is trying to do, I saw that one of your cities (was it Richmond?) ousted 4/4 of the democrats on it's city council, so it sounds like the conservatives in the state are rallying against Northam and his cronies. That play they made against the second amendment was really stupid.
 
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Those that have been working to undermine our society and Judeo-Christian value system have made too many of inroads in the last 50 years. YOu should read some of the posts of my progressive friends make on social media. The hate traditional Christianity want to marginalize it, get rid of it, stamp it out. I'm in my 60's and this is not the same country I grew up in. As Fenwick said the Marxists would fight us tooth and nail trying to turn back the clock.

That's the biggest problem in this country right now: our leadership class has told God that he is no longer wanted (hence why churches were closed during the "pandemic") so God has decided to remove himself from America as he's not going to stay where he isn't wanted.

However, he hasn't left his people. He is still with each of us at every moment of the day and night, unceasingly, untiringly. It's up to us now to try and turn our leadership class back to Him, and the challenge of doing so may very well cost us our security & soon our lives.

The wicked powers & principalities that control America's leadership class are making themselves manifest in these riots. Remember that true spiritual evil has a "scattering" and divisive effect-- nowhere is that more clear than in 2020 America.
 
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