Trump says he's been taking hydroxychloroquine

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Turns out, opening up before it's safe, will do more damage to the economy. If Trump had acted promptly, we wouldn't have the economic impact we see. And of course, about 36,000 lives would have been saved.

He acted more promptly than Biden would have,

Sorry, that excuse won't work. Biden, long before Trump took effective action, had doctors and epidemiologists develop a plan, and presented it publicly, urging Trump to something.

Biden urges Trump to give Americans ‘unvarnished truth’ about COVID-19

Politics Mar 23, 2020 2:11 PM EDT
...Biden also criticized the Trump administration for what he said was a slow response to the COVID-19 outbreak, and expressed concern about a lack of access to health care and medical supplies in the U.S.

WATCH: Biden urges Trump to give Americans ‘unvarnished truth’ about COVID-19

and Biden labeled Trump as hysterical and xenophobic.

That only slightly exaggerates Trump's response to the pandemic. Trump's first response, contrary to the advice his own doctors and scientists gave him was to shut down any travel from China.

Good thing we didn't have Biden as our president, or the death toll would be even higher.

Notice Biden, long before Trump had any effective response, was advocating good controls on the spread of the virus, taking his cue from scientists who actually know what they're talking about. Shortly after that, Trump suggested injecting disinfectant into people to "clean" the virus from them.

If Trump had just listened to Biden, tens of thousands of Americans wouldn't have died.
 
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The problem is that you got it wrong -- I said it's a crime to disobey a lawful executive order, and contrary to your assertion, the Wisconsin Supreme Court didn't conclude otherwise.

They struck down the order. Case closed.
 
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Exactly! I don't see where we're in disagreement.

I don't see where the Wisconsin Supreme Court was in disagreement with me, either.
 
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I don't see where the Wisconsin Supreme Court was in disagreement with me, either.

Then we both agree with the Supreme Court that the democrat known as Evers' order was unlawful.
 
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Then we both agree with the Supreme Court that the democrat known as Evers' order was unlawful.

Precisely. Had the order been lawful, then disobeying it would've merited criminal punishment. But the purpose of the Judiciary branch is to serve as a check on the the power of the other two branches -- when one of them steps over the line (as the Executive branch did in this case), the people bring their case to the judiciary, who rules it unlawful and therefore, void.

That's what a functioning government (which Wisconsin currently appears to have) does. Let me know if I can help you with anything else. :wave:
 
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Precisely. Had the order been lawful, then disobeying it would've merited criminal punishment. But the purpose of the Judiciary branch is to serve as a check on the the power of the other two branches -- when one of them steps over the line (as the Executive branch did in this case), the people bring their case to the judiciary, who rules it unlawful and therefore, void.

That's what a functioning government (which Wisconsin currently appears to have) does. Let me know if I can help you with anything else. :wave:

Could you then explain how the cities and counties are able to go ahead with implementing pretty much the same restrictions as the governor did?
 
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Could you then explain how the cities and counties are able to go ahead with implementing pretty much the same restrictions as the governor did?

Not being an authority on Wisconsin, I could only speculate as to the particulars.

But I do know that different executives have different limitations on their authority. It's certainly plausible that a city or county leader has certain powers that, for example, a state or federal leader does not. A mayor might be able to enact certain ordinances citywide that a governor is prohibited from doing on the state level, or the president can't do on the federal level. Let me know if I can help you with anything else. :wave:
 
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I saw this new study, which was released today, that Hydroxychloroquine does not help people who have been exposed to COVID-19 from being infected. While we still don't know if it will help in cases where people have not been exposed -- this is yet more evidence that hydroxychloroquine has no benefits in stopping or curing COVID-19.
 
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