why am i getting this? bizarre and creepy

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Wow, not a big deal?? I happen to disagree with that counselor.... I don't see you that way at all. What you experienced was very damaging. Goodness, a father is supposed to love and protect his children, not threaten and inflict pain.

i dont know, my curent therapist takes your view more. he also says it sounded like as a child i maybe fdidnt get enough attention and this created a black hole inside me....so either i push love away (too frightening) or i demand more and more of it... he says he is pretty sure there was some neglect i have forgotten. he did say difuclt ot be sure because i can remebr so littl eof my earlier years (thank God) but he says it seems like there was some attachment disorder there. he says i act out like th eway he has seen children who have been in foster care act..... it scares me...i had two christian parents living together, middle class home, nice school.....yet such a sense of inner deprivation
 
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We are not supposed to belittle the person asking for advise or debate in the advise forum. I get the suspicion but I think this is starting to border into things we should not be doing.

I have never used divination

i have never had prophetic gifting, ok. i ditn realise that until today;. i just dint know. why do people get so bothered by this stuff?
 
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oh well i dont worry about going to hell. am goign to heaven. i been baptised in water and the holy spsirt and know Jesus. so yeah these thing ar ejust my mnetal illness, th ejudgement


i have neer used divination.

i have nevr used prophecy

i have not lied about anything. i was just mistaken. am still a growing believer, growin gin the faith. not mature yet. God understands. he ok with me....
Then I was mistaken for posting to you on the level of advice that I did. I admit my fault on that.

In the particular post of your admitting to having divination in your family.. the mental health issues and other personal issues.. you said nothing in that post about being mistaken, you posted in a way of finally speaking the truth.. so I'm not quick to accept your subsequent disclaimer.. but then I'm not in the position of judging you, but only myself.

Your mental health issues are perhaps not stable enough to discern what is fact and what isn't.

God knows your life and He knows your heart. I pray that someone else's words will minister to you far better than my mistaken endeavor.
 
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I've already read of your divination background etc.. and your other personal acknowledgments so you can cease with your claiming that your knowing things comes from God, okay?
Odd that because there's no support in scripture for it.
The more you claim it the more it conflicts with your admission of your romany divination background. Save yourself the time and effort in trying to convince me that you have what you know you don't.
Oh, is that why your title of this thread is "Why am I getting this bizarre and creepy thing?"
From what you've shared in your confession of the romany divination background.. and the way that people have made judgements against you all of your life.. then it's no wonder that your mind has the words 'eternal judgement' floating around in your head to get your attention.

Jesus spoke of a false prophet who tried to convince Jesus that since he did miraculous works that he should be accepted by Jesus.. but Jesus had discerning to know that the man spoke falsely.. it isn't the doing of good deeds that guarantee an eternity in heaven. Jesus pointed out the man's problem. That Jesus didn't know him. He hadn't come to Jesus to be saved. Therefore he was still lawless, still a sinner that was not saved by grace.

2 Timothy 2:19
"Nevertheless, God's solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: "The LORD knows those who are his," and, "Everyone who confesses the name of the LORD must turn away from wickedness (ie, lawlessness)."​

The sinners are judged at the white throne judgement. While the believers are judged according to their good deeds at the bema seat.

Their good deeds that can only be done by relying entirely on God Himself to do those good works through them. He does the work, He gets the glory, we get the eternal rewards.

Their fruits are either wood, hay or stubble.. or of equivalent value of gold, silver or costly jewels.
Actually, yes. Without the blood there is no remission of sin.


sister, chill out. breathe deep.....relax...

ok. i admit it wasn;t God. it wasnt satan, it wasnt divination. it i sjust my ilness. let us all relax ok? it is no biggie.

i wil think of an excuse to tell my church and the prophetic group am in as to why i wont minsiter anymore. i will tell them am having a rest or sababtical or somethiing. i might tell them am having some kind of breakdown,. i have been feeling very depressed lately. maybe an exxuse for me to have a stay at home vacation or something?

i'm not worried about it. neither should be. ok, so i dont have nay sopiritual gifts. that is ok. i have Jesus and that is what matters. we shoudl rejoice our names are in the book of life, shouldn't we?
 
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Then I was mistaken for posting to you on the level of advice that I did. I admit my fault on that.

In the particular post of your admitting to having divination in your family.. the mental health issues and other personal issues.. you said nothing in that post about being mistaken, you posted in a way of finally speaking the truth.. so I'm not quick to accept your subsequent disclaimer.. but then I'm not in the position of judging you, but only myself.

Your mental health issues are perhaps not stable enough to discern what is fact and what isn't.

God knows your life and He knows your heart. I pray that someone else's words will minister to you far better than my mistaken endeavor.

it i sok i dont think i need any minstry anymore. i know i wasnt using nay spiritual gift when i spoke those words of prophecy. it was nothign spiritual. just a hallucination.

God is ok with it. i made a msitake thats all. God has forgiven everything . i will put htis behind me and forget it never happened.

it was a mistake. just lie when i lied about the rape etc as a child. God wants me to forget it now and look forward to my glorious future ahead with Him.
 
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I iwll write to he church this evening. just tell them am having some time off for a few months and in tht time they can appoint someone else to minister for them, and the prophecy group.....i will forgrt the words i gave those strangers. they will have forgotten them now......no restitution is neccessary. no one needs t know about this....between me and God.

if they ask anythign i will jsut say am poorly
 
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sister, chill out. breathe deep.....relax...
I've endeavored to be relaxed in my responses to you. If you read them otherwise then count it up to being a masculine trait.
ok. i admit it wasn;t God. it wasnt satan, it wasnt divination. it i sjust my ilness. let us all relax ok? it is no biggie.
I agree. All is my fault. Not yours.
i wil think of an excuse to tell my church and the prophetic group am in as to why i wont minsiter anymore. i will tell them am having a rest or sababtical or somethiing. i might tell them am having some kind of breakdown,. i have been feeling very depressed lately. maybe an exxuse for me to have a stay at home vacation or something?
Stepping back and taking a duration of receiving ministry from others rather than always giving out is always advisable.
i'm not worried about it. neither should be. ok, so i dont have nay sopiritual gifts. that is ok. i have Jesus and that is what matters. we shoudl rejoice our names are in the book of life, shouldn't we?
A very good reminder for each of us saved children of God. :D

Peace :)
 
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i am so sorry.

i dint have the vocabluary. i dont know why i lied about it. i was a very manipulative little girl. i just said things not really knwoing what they meant. i was jsut very screwed up.

i never felt any remorse over what i lied about . i still dont feel it now...




but i do feel sad for what you went through....i am so sorry you went through that. i cannot imagine how it must feel

God heals all wounds!
 
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Then I was mistaken for posting to you on the level of advice that I did. I admit my fault on that.

In the particular post of your admitting to having divination in your family.. the mental health issues and other personal issues.. you said nothing in that post about being mistaken, you posted in a way of finally speaking the truth.. so I'm not quick to accept your subsequent disclaimer.. but then I'm not in the position of judging you, but only myself.

Your mental health issues are perhaps not stable enough to discern what is fact and what isn't.

God knows your life and He knows your heart. I pray that someone else's words will minister to you far better than my mistaken endeavor.

not sure hat you mean by disclaimer though? am thankful for your post?
 
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I've endeavored to be relaxed in my responses to you. If you read them otherwise then count it up to being a masculine trait.
I agree. All is my fault. Not yours.
Stepping back and taking a duration of receiving ministry from others rather than always giving out is always advisable.
A very good reminder for each of us saved children of God. :D

Peace :)

that is true!
 
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I have always had issues with intrusive thoughts, hearing voices. yes, i do have MH issues, yes, am in treatment... i keep hearing over past few years or so, but more recently the words "ETERNAL JUDGEMENT". Sometimes it even happens when there i sno conscious deliberate sin in my life. other times it also happens. and i wonder, is this spiritual or what? if God is speaking to me, who is He intending this word for?

i will say that i do sometimes get words of knowledge for other people and yes they have been verified by other believers with this gift as legitimate. so this kind of scares me: why is Go dgiving me this when usually what He gives me for other people is encouraging???

i know we are meant to be telling the unsaved to repent or go to hell....so i am assumign this word i smeant for them but who in particular?

also i can understand God threatening me with hellfire at times when i am not walking in the spirit, if there is wilful sin in my life. but it happens even when am not sinning???!!!
Intrustive thoughts are horrible, it's kind of like a weed you outgrow as a tree, (metaph.) but it takes a long time. Trust issues quite often.

The origin of these thoughts is the type of sin explained in Romans 7, it's not a sin you commit, it where the desire for sin comes from within all people.
 
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I operate in those gifts but don’t speak in tongues. I have in the past on two occasions.

From my observation, the bigger issue is your reliance on outside opinion for input and validation of your thoughts. When you encounter dissent the response leaves you to question yourself or doubt.

Knowledge without understanding is facts. Both are strengthened by wisdom and discernment. It is possible the desire may hail from your experiences and the want for acceptance is great.

I don’t think mental illness precludes someone from having gifts. But I think we should be honest about the practical ways our challenges and shortcomings can impact our performance. That goes for everyone across the board.

~Bella

interstingly enough i DID used to speak in tongues. but in the private prayer language sense. which may or may not be valid today- i dont really know. i dont know how important it is. i di dfind edifying an dhelpful
 
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I have never used divination

i have never had prophetic gifting, ok. i ditn realise that until today;. i just dint know. why do people get so bothered by this stuff?

@Michie was not saying anything against you she was defending you. You really do need not to take everything seriously. My wife has OCD and sounds like you when anybody tells you things, her thing is "I'm a bad person" because she take things out of context and to seriously. So please don't take things so seriously and don't think your a bad Christian or whatever when someone is trying to help. It may seem like criticism that is bad but it is not.
 
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I've endeavored to be relaxed in my responses to you. If you read them otherwise then count it up to being a masculine trait.
I agree. All is my fault. Not yours.
Stepping back and taking a duration of receiving ministry from others rather than always giving out is always advisable.
A very good reminder for each of us saved children of God. :D

Peace :)

masculine? i dont have nay masucline traits. am fully female? lol :D
 
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Intrustive thoughts are horrible, it's kind of like a weed you outgrow as a tree, (metaph.) but it takes a long time. Trust issues quite often.

The origin of these thoughts is the type of sin explained in Romans 7, it's not a sin you commit, it where the desire for sin comes from within all people.

Trust issues definitely the case with me. i often joke that i was born with no sense of trust. born to fight people and fear them.

i think this is why i am uneasy on the subject of demons or mental health issues being rooted in sin.. i look back at my life and think i was always unable to trust people. which means possibly some people are born with demons? i am convinced i was. in fact deep down, i know i was one of those bad seed children.

often it nature not nurture.
 
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