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Well there were awful things happening in the days of Noah. I do not believe our heavenly Father is capricious to just destroy the whole world because people are just going about their everyday lives, marrying and eating and drinking. Those things were happening too, but greater sin was happening. The Bible says that everyone,EVERYONE, had corrupted God's way. Noah was the only one (and his children) that was genetically pure. We know he was not sinless, for he had the sin nature inherited from his forefathers. But he was perfect in his generations.

Scientists today are corrupting God's creations with genetic modification of plants and animals and human beings. This cannot be denied.This thread should not dissolve int an argument of who the B'nai elohim are in Genesis 6. We can explore the technologies that create abominations in our time.


Where does it say Noah was genetically pure? Where is bloodline mentioned at all?
 
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Jesus never said that at all

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as angels in heaven.

Lets point out that this is taking place in the "Resurrection" And that hes referring to ANGELS IN HEAVEN not the fallen angels who left their proper domain.

AND HE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT THEY DO HE SAID HUMANS WONT MARRY IN THE RESURRECTION.

Also, because of the angels the women cover their heads.. Hmmm... yeah context buddy. keep reading your bible.

Jesus says we will be as the angels after the resurrection---meaning, the angels have no sexual relationships. Sex outside masrriage is against God and is caslled fornicsation. Where does the bible say anyone fornicates in heavern? They do not. Angels can't. Read your bible without the preconceived ideas from unlearned men.,
 
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Again, where does the bible mention blood lines?

Genesis6:9 ESV These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God.



II דּוֹר also דֹּר, (160 ×):
• I דור :): Albright BASOR 163:50f: Arb. dahr a long time);
• MHb.;
• Ug. dr (|| pḫr, mpḫrt) collection (Pope 48, 60; Neuberg JNES 9:215ff; UTGl. 697; Aistleitner 786 generation);
• Ph. דר:
• family DISO 60;
• Arm. דָּר generation → BArm., Sam. BenH. 2:445, Mnd. (MdD 100b);
• Arb. daur period, OSArb. occasion;
• Eth. dār and dōr (loan < Heb. ?, Leslau 16);
• Akk. dāru eternity from darū to last, continue, (Ug. dūru, dāru, darītu PRU 3:218), dāru generation WSem. lw. AHw. 164b:
• דּוֹרִי, דּ(וֹ)רֹ(וֹ)ת, דֹּרֹת, דּוֹרִים Is 51:8 Ps 72:5 102:25 †, דֹּרֹתָיו, דֹּרֹתָם Ex 40:15, 4Q דורותם as in Sir 441 (Textus 2:99):
• דּוֹר(וֹ)תֵינוּ
1. sing. cycle, lifetime, descent, generation, (all the people who have grown up in the period from the birth of a man until the birth of his first son; Noth Überl. St. 21; a period with particular events and people, Ped. Isr. 1-2:490):
• הַדּוֹר הַזֶּה Gn 7:1 דּ׳ רְבִעִי 15:16, לְאֶלֶף דּ׳ as long as a thousand generations Dt 7:9, הַדּ׳ הָאַחֲרוֹן 29:21, הָרִאשׁוֹן Jb 8:8;
• with עִקֵּשׁ Dt 32:5, with צַדִּיק Ps 14:5;
• with אֲבֹתָיו 49:20, with בָּנֶיךָ 73:15, with עֶבְרָתוֹ Jr 7:29 etc.; דֹּר דֹּר Ex 3:15 and דֹּר וָדֹר Dt 32:7 (29 ×; Ug. drdr, ana dūrim, ana dāri dūri and simil., for ever, (PRU 3:218) Akk. dūr dāri, simil. in Mnd.) and דּוֹר לְד׳ Ps 145:4 generation after generation, דּוֹר דּוֹרִים Ps 102:25, cj. לְכָל־דּ׳ יָבוֹא Ps 71:18;
• group דּ׳ דֹּרְשָׁיו Ps 24:6;
• Is 53:8 ? fate (Arb. dāʾirat), alt. his contemporaries, cj. רִיבוֹ;
2. pl. generations (in Greek originally counted as forty years, from the time of Herodotus as thirty-three and a third years, Meyer Gesch. 3/2:207):
• אַרְבָּעָה דֹּרֹת Jb 42:16, דֹּרֹת בְּנֵי יִשְׂ׳ Ju 3:2, דֹּרוֹתֵינוּ אַחֲרֵינוּ future generations descended from us Jos 22:27f;
• דּ׳ עוֹלָמִים generations in times past Is 51:9;
• לְדֹרֹתָיו/תָמ/תֵיכָם according to his (their, your) generations = generation after generation descended from him (them, you) Lv 25:30 Gn 17:7, 12;
• בְּדֹּרֹתָיו among his contemporaries Gn 6:9, Sir 441 (alt.: in his turn);
— Ju 3:2 dl. (dittogr., Seeligmann VT 11:2142);
• Jr 2:21 ?, prp.
• וְלֹא יְרֵאתֶם Sept., Latina;
• Is 41:4 rd. הַקֹּרוֹת (→ v. 22).

Context - A generation is a bloodline, if the generation continues, the blood line is continued.
 
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Jesus says we will be as the angels after the resurrection---meaning, the angels have no sexual relationships. Sex outside masrriage is against God and is caslled fornicsation. Where does the bible say anyone fornicates in heavern? They do not. Angels can't. Read your bible without the preconceived ideas from unlearned men.,


I totally agree with you, however, we are not in heaven and the RESURRECTION HASN'T HAPPENED YET. This is the Resurrection of the DEAD IN CHRIST not of JESUS !

Lets say the this refers to the Resurrection of Christ, well cool, but these angels did this BEFORE THE RESURRECTION.

What you are doing is looking into the bible to see what you want it to say to fit your Theology.

I suggest learning some hermenutics.
 
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Genesis6:9 ESV These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God.



II דּוֹר also דֹּר, (160 ×):
• I דור :): Albright BASOR 163:50f: Arb. dahr a long time);
• MHb.;
• Ug. dr (|| pḫr, mpḫrt) collection (Pope 48, 60; Neuberg JNES 9:215ff; UTGl. 697; Aistleitner 786 generation);
• Ph. דר:
• family DISO 60;
• Arm. דָּר generation → BArm., Sam. BenH. 2:445, Mnd. (MdD 100b);
• Arb. daur period, OSArb. occasion;
• Eth. dār and dōr (loan < Heb. ?, Leslau 16);
• Akk. dāru eternity from darū to last, continue, (Ug. dūru, dāru, darītu PRU 3:218), dāru generation WSem. lw. AHw. 164b:
• דּוֹרִי, דּ(וֹ)רֹ(וֹ)ת, דֹּרֹת, דּוֹרִים Is 51:8 Ps 72:5 102:25 †, דֹּרֹתָיו, דֹּרֹתָם Ex 40:15, 4Q דורותם as in Sir 441 (Textus 2:99):
• דּוֹר(וֹ)תֵינוּ
1. sing. cycle, lifetime, descent, generation, (all the people who have grown up in the period from the birth of a man until the birth of his first son; Noth Überl. St. 21; a period with particular events and people, Ped. Isr. 1-2:490):
• הַדּוֹר הַזֶּה Gn 7:1 דּ׳ רְבִעִי 15:16, לְאֶלֶף דּ׳ as long as a thousand generations Dt 7:9, הַדּ׳ הָאַחֲרוֹן 29:21, הָרִאשׁוֹן Jb 8:8;
• with עִקֵּשׁ Dt 32:5, with צַדִּיק Ps 14:5;
• with אֲבֹתָיו 49:20, with בָּנֶיךָ 73:15, with עֶבְרָתוֹ Jr 7:29 etc.; דֹּר דֹּר Ex 3:15 and דֹּר וָדֹר Dt 32:7 (29 ×; Ug. drdr, ana dūrim, ana dāri dūri and simil., for ever, (PRU 3:218) Akk. dūr dāri, simil. in Mnd.) and דּוֹר לְד׳ Ps 145:4 generation after generation, דּוֹר דּוֹרִים Ps 102:25, cj. לְכָל־דּ׳ יָבוֹא Ps 71:18;
• group דּ׳ דֹּרְשָׁיו Ps 24:6;
• Is 53:8 ? fate (Arb. dāʾirat), alt. his contemporaries, cj. רִיבוֹ;
2. pl. generations (in Greek originally counted as forty years, from the time of Herodotus as thirty-three and a third years, Meyer Gesch. 3/2:207):
• אַרְבָּעָה דֹּרֹת Jb 42:16, דֹּרֹת בְּנֵי יִשְׂ׳ Ju 3:2, דֹּרוֹתֵינוּ אַחֲרֵינוּ future generations descended from us Jos 22:27f;
• דּ׳ עוֹלָמִים generations in times past Is 51:9;
• לְדֹרֹתָיו/תָמ/תֵיכָם according to his (their, your) generations = generation after generation descended from him (them, you) Lv 25:30 Gn 17:7, 12;
• בְּדֹּרֹתָיו among his contemporaries Gn 6:9, Sir 441 (alt.: in his turn);
— Ju 3:2 dl. (dittogr., Seeligmann VT 11:2142);
• Jr 2:21 ?, prp.
• וְלֹא יְרֵאתֶם Sept., Latina;
• Is 41:4 rd. הַקֹּרוֹת (→ v. 22).

Context - A generation is a bloodline, if the generation continues, the blood line is continued.


In his generation means in his time. Nothing to do with blood lines---where is anything mentioned in the bible about blood lines? It does state why God destroyed the earth:

Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Not one word about bloodlines.
 
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Moving forward I will be ignoring all posts from people trying to hijack this thread.

Haven't seen anyone "hijacking your thread. Everyone has stayed on the subject---Nephilim. Having a different opinion than yours is not hijacking. I understand wanting to ignore what you can not really fully explain.
 
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Read the book of 1Enoch, a book that was quoted by Jesus brother.
If you want real belly laughs, read "Enoch's" description of how the solar system works. It may well be where Rube Goldberg got some of his ideas.
 
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I totally agree with you, however, we are not in heaven and the RESURRECTION HASN'T HAPPENED YET. This is the Resurrection of the DEAD IN CHRIST not of JESUS !

Lets say the this refers to the Resurrection of Christ, well cool, but these angels did this BEFORE THE RESURRECTION.

What you are doing is looking into the bible to see what you want it to say to fit your Theology.

I suggest learning some hermenutics.


The point being that the angels in heaven--now and in the past--have never had sex and never will---they can not. We WILL BE as the angels ARE!!! It is you who are putting words into the mouth of Jesus that He never said!
 
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Haven't seen anyone "hijacking your thread. Everyone has stayed on the subject---Nephilim. Having a different opinion than yours is not hijacking. I understand wanting to ignore what you can not really fully explain.


I can and did fully explain it, you are just blind, and look into the text to fit your theology, E.G.W did the same.
 
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I am a flat earther.

I can and did fully explain it, you are just blind, and look into the text to fit your theology, E.G.W did the same.

Well, that figures! EGW died in 1915---what on earth has she got to do with this? She has not been mentioned by anyone except you. And if you are going to speak about her---then please quote your sources!!
 
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As far as we know, the angels are all male. Every time we see angels in scripture they are male. Now, the scripture tells us that when daughters were born to men, the sons of God (angels) SAW that they were fair. So they lusted after them. .

Genesis 6 does not say they were angels.
Matt 22 Christ said angels don't even have that function at all when asked about future family relationships in heaven for humans.

Matt 22
23 On that day some Sadducees (who say there is no resurrection) came to Jesus and questioned Him, 24 asking, “Teacher, Moses said, ‘If a man dies having no children, his brother as next of kin shall marry his wife, and raise up children for his brother.’ 25 Now there were seven brothers with us; and the first married and died, and having no children left his wife to his brother; 26 so also the second, and the third, down to the seventh. 27 Last of all, the woman died. 28 In the resurrection, therefore, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had married her.
29 But Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven

Angels then -- do not have family relationships - and in fact are specifically created by God... no "procreation" for angels. They don't have the biology for it.. not in the purpose and function for which they were created. If humans are in some sense "like angels" in that future state... then humans also would not "marry or be given in marriage".

Christ does not say that.

we differ.

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Here are pictures that are in museums. You can not deny evidence even though you.deny the bible.

Nothing in museums shows angels having families or mating with other species or mating with each other.

This fact does not change just because some humans are taller than others.
 
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Well, that figures! EGW died in 1915---what on earth has she got to do with this? She has not been mentioned by anyone except you. And if you are going to speak about her---then please quote your sources!!

You are unqualified to talk to me about context or anything in the bible.

1 Timothy 2:12

I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

- The Bible
 
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Genesis 6 does not say they were angels.
Matt 22 Christ said angels don't even have that function at all when asked about future family relationships in heaven for humans.

Matt 22
23 On that day some Sadducees (who say there is no resurrection) came to Jesus and questioned Him, 24 asking, “Teacher, Moses said, ‘If a man dies having no children, his brother as next of kin shall marry his wife, and raise up children for his brother.’ 25 Now there were seven brothers with us; and the first married and died, and having no children left his wife to his brother; 26 so also the second, and the third, down to the seventh. 27 Last of all, the woman died. 28 In the resurrection, therefore, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had married her.
29 But Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven

Angels then -- do not have family relationships - and in fact are specifically created by God... no "procreation" for angels. They don't have the biology for it.. not in the purpose and function for which they were created. If humans are in some sense "like angels" in that future state... then humans also would not "marry or be given in marriage".



we differ.



Nothing in museums shows angels having families or mating with other species or mating with each other.

This fact does not change just because some humans are taller than others.


Sorry but you are unqualified to quote the bible or talk about it.


1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
 
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Sorry but you are unqualified to quote the bible or talk about it.
1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
Dunno why, but I 'spect that BOB isn't a woman. Just sayin'
 
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You are unqualified to talk to me about context or anything in the bible.

1 Timothy 2:12

I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

- The Bible

How old are you??

You need to spend more time in the bible and less in these fantasies of men!! You do not get to dictate what anyone does---God does.

Jdg_4:4 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.
Rom 16:1 I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:
Rom 16:2 That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Php 4:3 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.
 
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