A Poll About The Cop

One indicator would be if all of his previously alleged abuses were only against blacks, or if he has been reported to have abused whites, also.

Chesterton said:

I chose the option to display votes publicly because I'd like everyone who votes to provide a reason(s) for their vote. Please don't vote if you're unwilling to articulate a reason. My answer is "I don't know" because I don't know.

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I don't think that he would have done that to a white guy ...

Whether he is racist or not, as soon as George went limp, they could have checked his pulse and done CPR. Police are trained in CPR. Now, if not before, police in training can be told > if a person goes limp in restraint, check the person's pulse.

I know ones, of course, can go limp in order to fool the police. But one could pass out, on alcohol or a developing overdose. So, you need to check what is going on.

They claim the autopsy shows he did not die of asphyxiation. But, then, why did he die? The stopped pulse would have shown he needed help, in any case. It would be significant to see if he died of what CPR could have corrected.

Oh yes, and they know about NARCAN.

So, if he stayed limp for more than two minutes . . . without being checked . . . this means something to be dealt with.

Who knows nowadays?
The pandemic didn't work as hoped, so let's go for a good old fashioned race war instead...

I don't know if he's a racist killer or just a killer. One thing that is sure to distract from finding that out is the rioting.

I believe racism was a factor. While I do not know him. His boss claims he was racist and a bully at the nightclub he worked at with George Floyd. He had 18 complaints.

I believe that it had something to do with race, insofar as what happened here was a symptom of a much larger problem. There's far too much police violence against African Americans throughout the country for me to throw up my hands and say that I have no idea why it happened.

Hieronymus said:

Who knows nowadays?
The pandemic didn't work as hoped, so let's go for a good old fashioned race war instead...

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On the contrary we had unemployment riots during the great depression. I suspect 40 million unemployed are ready to take their anger out on someone. They were protesting the lockdown. All these unemployed are the tinder and George Floyd, and Breonna Taylor were the spark.

I expect it to get worse. We will have a very hot summer.

Cbowles said:

His boss claims he was racist and a bully at the nightclub he worked at with George Floyd.

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Source?

Sketcher said:

Source?

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Oh I was not sure you could post video. OP wanted you to articulate your answers, but if ok.

El Nuevo Rodeo: George Floyd and Derek Chauvin worked overlapping security shifts at the same club - CNN



I do not agree with everything said in this video just a news source.

ZNP said:

All these unemployed are the tinder and George Floyd, and Breonna Taylor were the spark.

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There is the idea that certain activists are infiltrating nonviolent protests, in order to highjack them to become violent. While ones are crying that there is a conspiracy to put masks on our faces and degrade us and control us, there can also be a conspiracy to use this stuff to take down the government so dictatorial people can take over > like certain communist people have done in the past.

Now, if the nonviolent ones kept a disciplined six feet from one another, it would be easy to spot the violent ones trying to start things. Plus, as is reported to have happened in one place, if officers walked as part of the protest, they could spot up close who was trying to highjack things to violence, capture the person and then check if the person even came from another state.

We might be getting mentally trained to assume that every white on black abuse has to be racist. This is being prejudiced, too.

Choices were a little weird, because you used "believe" for the first 2, which implies you may not be sure but given what you know you think it is likely a certain way. Then you used "know" for the last one, which has a much greater degree of certainty than "believe". So I assumed you meant the third to say something more along the lines of "I do not have a belief one way or the other". Given that, I choose #1.

I am highly suspicious of any choice for options 1 or 2. Such a conclusion could only safely be reached after a detailed investigation, with thorough validation of all relevant findings, into the background, history, behaviour, attitudes and past actions of Chauvin, coupled with a meticulous examination of the event itself. Since such an investigation has not been conducted the only proper response is "I don't know if it had anything to do with race or not".

com7fy8 said:

So, if he stayed limp for more than two minutes . . . without being checked . . . this means something to be dealt with.

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They knew he was unconscious a full 2 minutes before the guy got off Floyd's neck.