LDS MORMONS: Heavenly Mom Gets Less Respect

He is the way · May 29, 2020

Hammster said:
The scripture doesn’t support that. You are just guessing.

You are, as I said, begging the question. You can’t get it from the text. You must read into it.

Deciding whether God has a wife are not will not decide who is righteous or evil anyway. It is a sidetrack from the real purpose of the gospel, to LOVE Jesus Christ and keep His commandments.

He is the way · May 29, 2020

mmksparbud said:
You have nothing to say about posts 136 or 141 except she is made in the image of her mother??

She is in the image of her Mother unless you have a better answer.

Hammster · May 29, 2020

He is the way said:
Deciding whether God has a wife are not will not decide who is righteous or evil anyway. It is a sidetrack from the real purpose of the gospel, to LOVE Jesus Christ and keep His commandments.

I don’t think it’s a sidetrack. Our faith isn’t a blind faith. It’s built on actual truths. Even in the LDS, you have Doctrines and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price. While I don’t think they contain truth, you think they are based on something real. So if your leaders are putting forth as truth the person of Heavenly Mother, but without anything solid to point to, how can you honestly trust other things that they teach?

Hammster · May 29, 2020

He is the way said:
She is in the image of her Mother unless you have a better answer.

You have no evidence that there is a Heavenly Mother.

dzheremi · May 29, 2020

I like how it went from being a sidetrack to being the truth unless you have a better answer in literally two minutes.

He is the way · May 29, 2020

Hammster said:
I don’t think it’s a sidetrack. Our faith isn’t a blind faith. It’s built on actual truths. Even in the LDS, you have Doctrines and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price. While I don’t think they contain truth, you think they are based on something real. So if your leaders are putting forth as truth the person of Heavenly Mother, but without anything solid to point to, how can you honestly trust other things that they teach?

Jesus brought forth many truths and the people didn't believe Him. So it seems to me that when new truths are revealed people take offence, perhaps it is because people are so resistant to change.

Hammster · May 29, 2020

He is the way said:
Jesus brought forth many truths and the people didn't believe Him. So it seems to me that when new truths are revealed people take offence, perhaps it is because people are so resistant to change.

Jesus’ truths were verifiable. What you are bringing forth isn’t.

mmksparbud · May 29, 2020

He is the way said:
She is in the image of her Mother unless you have a better answer.

That is in no way an answer to anything that was said in those posts which is a far better answer than she was made in the image of her mother---She had no mother, none listed anywhere in the bible, only a father who is perfectly all that is male and all that is female.

He is the way · May 30, 2020

Hammster said:
Jesus’ truths were verifiable. What you are bringing forth isn’t.

He was put to death for those truths.

He is the way · May 30, 2020

mmksparbud said:
That is in no way an answer to anything that was said in those posts which is a far better answer than she was made in the image of her mother---She had no mother, none listed anywhere in the bible, only a father who is perfectly all that is male and all that is female.

You said: "She had no mother, none listed anywhere in the bible, only a father who is perfectly all that is male and all that is female."

Reference needed.

Hammster · May 30, 2020

He is the way said:
He was put to death for those truths.

And they were still veritable. Yours aren’t.

He is the way · May 30, 2020

Hammster said:
And they were still veritable. Yours aren’t.

No they weren't verifiable.

mmksparbud · May 30, 2020

He is the way said:
You said: "She had no mother, none listed anywhere in the bible, only a father who is perfectly all that is male and all that is female."

Reference needed.

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Hammster · May 30, 2020

He is the way said:
No they weren't verifiable.

Give me an example.

He is the way · May 30, 2020

mmksparbud said:
Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Nothing there about the Father being all that is female or that Eve has NO mother.

He is the way · May 30, 2020

Hammster said:
Give me an example.

Verify that Jesus is not the son of Joseph by DNA. Verify that there was a new star in heaven at Jesus birth. Verify that Mary saw an angel. You can't use the Bible to verify the Bible.

Hammster · May 30, 2020

He is the way said:
Verify that Jesus is not the son of Joseph by DNA. Verify that there was a new star in heaven at Jesus birth. Verify that Mary saw an angel. You can't use the Bible to verify the Bible.

“Jesus brought forth many truths and the people didn't believe Him.”

SeekingGloryOnThisJourney · May 30, 2020

He is the way said:
Mother in Heaven

(Old Testament | Genesis 1:26 - 27)

26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Christians would usually interpret this as EXTREMELY Trinitarian.
Us -> The Father, Son, Holy Spirit
Male and feeling in God’s image, as Saint Paul describes,
Man came from God, therefore man is the glory of God,
Women came from man, women is the glory of man.

mmksparbud · May 30, 2020

He is the way said:
Nothing there about the Father being all that is female or that Eve has NO mother.

Really? You don't think that when it says that IT IS JESUS THAT CREATED everything, somehow did not include Eve? Where does it say that? What part of everything is it that you can't see?
What part of HE is it that you can't understand as being JESUS AND HE IS NOT A SHE?
You can't see where it doesn't say that Eve has no mother---where does it say she has one? She is a part of the EVERYTHING that Jesus created.

He is the way · May 30, 2020

mmksparbud said:
Really? You don't think that when it says that IT IS JESUS THAT CREATED everything, somehow did not include Eve? Where does it say that? What part of everything is it that you can't see?
What part of HE is it that you can't understand as being JESUS AND HE IS NOT A SHE?
You can't see where it doesn't say that Eve has no mother---where does it say she has one? She is a part of the EVERYTHING that Jesus created.

Not all things were made. God was not made. Adam and Eve were formed from the dust of the earth
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Don't assume that everything that exists was made.

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