Lead Singer Of Christian Rock Band Hawk Nelson Says He No Longer Believes In God

charsan said:

It is. That idea is part of that culture, unfortunately there is no substance in that system just all fluff

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Nah, too broad. I'm in the theologically (not politically) evangelical world. Lot's of diversity in that arena - which does mean some really stupid ideas get floated in some sections. But it is not part of the evangelical culture overall.

“Mystery is a lifeblood of intimacy—it keeps our relationship with God alive. Doubt gives you space to pursue the God you don’t understand. Can it lead us away from God, as with Adam and Eve? Yes. But can it also draw us closer to God, as with David? Yes.” - Dominic Done

“When we’re overcome with doubt, we contemplate the hard questions that we often avoid: Why is there evil? Why do righteous people suffer? Doubt pushes us in search of answers and leads us to return to prayer, to our community, to studying the Bible. It’s the fertile ground in which faith grows.” - Rabbi Eric Yoffie

"So very often God’s grace manifests itself in the form of doubt that leads to spiritual growth.” - Paul C. Maxwell

The struggles in our relationship with God shake us from our complacency and push us to dive deeper, to know God better, to walk closer with Him. I don't know this person's future but I know I've doubted God plenty in my life. Despite that I always come back because I've felt the pure love of Jesus Christ. Maybe he will too. Maybe he'll end up stronger in the faith than before.

"The 36-year-old singer explained he is "open to the idea that God is there ... I suspect if he is there, he is very different than what I was taught."'

I still see hope in this statement. Sadly, the contemporary culture of "pop" Christianity is full of fake, forced, feel-good rhetoric rather than spiritual truth.

I hope he finds God on his own terms now.

Tolworth John said:

Wintery knight is scathing of his 'reasons' that is his emotions for abandoning without any protest his 'faith'.

It shows that one should always attend a church that majors in the facts of Christianity and not in feelings and emotions.

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He also seems to believe that faith is not an adequate explanation to questioning unbelievers he lists this as one of the reasons he questioned his own faith. Perhaps he wasn't much of a Bible lover or rather not well read in the Bible. Anyway so sad and even shocking to loose a Christian brother.

Not David said:

Lead Singer Of Christian Rock Band Hawk Nelson Says He No Longer Believes In God

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Hawk Nelson was prominent in my life when I came back to God.

That's super sad to me. I have yet to read the article.

Not David said:

I'm sure most people have the same questions he had, those are even present here in CF.

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I know I have. For years. I went through a time of questioning for about 3 years.

My heart is literally broken tonight for him.

I'm spending prayer for him tonight.

Which of course means that He never actually met God, never knew Him. Sad. Obviously, once you meet someone, there is no possible way you can stop believing in the person's existence.

shineyourlight said:

Hawk Nelson was prominent in my life when I came back to God.

That's super sad to me. I have yet to read the article.

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I read the wikipedia article and the guy that is being talked about named Jonathan Steingard isn't an original member of the band but came into it around 2011. The last original member's name Daniel Biro the other 2 guys left the band over time.

His reasons for believing God doesn't exist have nothing to do with whether or not God exists. How did he fail to see that? How is it that no one in his life pointed this out?

Not David said:

Lead Singer Of Christian Rock Band Hawk Nelson Says He No Longer Believes In God

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At least he's being honest with himself and no longer pretending to be a Christian. Maybe now that he is away from that church and it's man inspired doctrine he can spend some time with himself in soul searching and open his heart to the one and true God and be led by the spirit to Christ through the Gospel........Pray for that!

Not David said:

“I remember being uncomfortable with certain things,” he said in his youth. “Praying in public always felt like some kind of weird performance art. Emotional cries such as ‘Holy Spirit come fill this place’ always felt clunky and awkward leaving my lips. A youth conference I attended encouraged every team to sign a pledge that they would ‘date Jesus’ for a year. It felt manipulative and unsettling to me. I didn’t sign it.”

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Sign a pledge that they would 'date Jesus' for a year?...........That sounds weird and more like a brain washing technique that anything biblical. I don't blame him for leaving, sounds like he was involved in a Charismatic style church which turned him away from Jesus instead of bringing him to Jesus. Even though he was encouraged or even forced to participate in all these church activities he probably never got to know the Gospel, that's the ironic thing about some of these churches. It's like they are trying to force someone to be saved by participation in these activities, it doesn't work! People are saved by the power and love of Christ not by pretending to be an active Christian for sake of appeasing others.

NerdGirl123 said:

"The 36-year-old singer explained he is "open to the idea that God is there ... I suspect if he is there, he is very different than what I was taught."'

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This to me reveals everything. If the singer truly knew God in the Spirit you don't say nor can say you're open to the idea that God is there. Nor do you say, "I suspect if he is there...." So he suspects or maybe God is there? I'm not being judgmental here folks it's just merely a fact. If you know God by having had fellowship with him in the Spirit it's not possible to question his existence. If Christianity for some is or has been merely mentally assenting to some theological creed.....that's NOT knowing God. That's merely knowing things about him. One may know a lot of George Washington.....really everything there is to know....BUT still....NOT KNOW him.

Not David said:

Lead Singer Of Christian Rock Band Hawk Nelson Says He No Longer Believes In God

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The questions of where does evil come from, why are whole communities executed at Gods command, why is the new testament full of love and acceptance, while the old seems so brutal.

For a pastors son he never took christianity seriously to even begin to search for answers to these questions. And there are answers.

Easy believism is when one accepts a culture and a series of responses but have never delved deeper into truth and into oneself. So this childlike belief is not maturity and knowing what is good and evil, but rather an experiential trust in those around you, without walking the walk.

To know where evil comes from just ask yourself where your anger suddenly rises up to a point where violence could well flow. Evil can appear to devastating effect seemingly out of nothing, yet people talk as if it is a mystery. Or take the massive spread of inappropriate contentography and adultery, where having any sexual relationship is like just getting dressed in the morning.

One day you can be best friends, the next day sworn enemies. And celebrity of music is more about making it big than any real spiritual expression or aspirations.

throughfireytrial said:

He also seems to believe that faith is not an adequate explanation to questioning unbelievers he lists this as one of the reasons he questioned his own faith. Perhaps he wasn't much of a Bible lover or rather not well read in the Bible. Anyway so sad and even shocking to loose a Christian brother.

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Well that is one point I agree with him 1000%. To say just have faith or only believe is stupid, and contradicts everything the Bible teaches.

We are to be able to give a reason for what and why we believe.
Christianity is based on historical facts, not fairy stories.

Not David said:

Have you experienced that on person?

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No. My daughter attended the teen group and didn’t like it. She bolted to an adult one with a pastor she enjoyed. But due to her age (and mixed company) they allowed her to join a women’s group instead.

I agreed with the switch. I didn’t feel the teaching was hitting the mark. From my observation. I wouldn’t be surprised if they fell away. There was no visible hunger for God. That’s why she left.

~Bella

According to Romans 1, everyone is aware of God's existence. So he is without excuse if he does not repent before he dies. I also highly doubt he had a powerful experience with the Lord, and was changed (knowing the Lord personally). When I accepted the Lord, I could not forget that experience I had with the Lord, and neither the many years of Him talking to me with His Word, and guiding me throughout life. I had a love, joy, and a peace that I had never known before. A person cannot forget these kinds of things and deny them. Then again, he did join a rock band and has tattoos. The Lord usually talks to a believer about putting away these things out of their life in time. If they refuse to do so, this can lead to them loving their rock and roll and tattoos and or other sinful things in their life over loving the Lord. But it seems to me: Based on the info. I have of him that he simply did not know ever truly the Lord Jesus Christ, and or he believed in a false version of Jesus that did not exist. For there are people who believe in a false version of Christ but this kind of belief is not knowing the real Jesus.

In other words, I am convinced he did not know the Lord. Not only would it be impossible for a person to ignore God's existence in the working of your their own life, but a person would also have to ignore the evidences that show God's Word to be of divine origin, as well.

Here is a Blogger article that shows some great evidences for God's Word being divine in origin:

Love Branch: Evidences for the Word of God

Bobber said:

This to me reveals everything. If the singer truly knew God in the Spirit you don't say nor can say you're open to the idea that God is there. Nor do you say, "I suspect if he is there...." So he suspects or maybe God is there? I'm not being judgmental here folks it's just merely a fact. If you know God by having had fellowship with him in the Spirit it's not possible to question his existence. If Christianity for some is or has been merely mentally assenting to some theological creed.....that's NOT knowing God. That's merely knowing things about him. One may know a lot of George Washington.....really everything there is to know....BUT still....NOT KNOW him.

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This is exactly what I was saying

Tolworth John said:

Well that is one point I agree with him 1000%. To say just have faith or only believe is stupid, and contradicts everything the Bible teaches.

We are to be able to give a reason for what and why we believe.
Christianity is based on historical facts, not fairy stories.

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Yes, for many tenets of faith you can give explanation from the Bible, but the starting point, how do you know there is a God or why do you believe there is a God, that rests on faith. Even to explain why the Bible is so miraculous in and of itself and to point to some of its truths to give explanation for most it seems to prove inadequate....
Romans 8:29-30:
For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.
John 3:27:
27 John answered, “A man cannot receive a single thing, unless it has been given to him from heaven. (EHV)
Therefore I don't entirely agree with you. If he had faith as small as a mustard seed and went on to grow up to maturity in the reading and studying of the Word I believe his faith might well have been preserved.

Sophrosyne said:

I read the wikipedia article and the guy that is being talked about named Jonathan Steingard isn't an original member of the band but came into it around 2011. The last original member's name Daniel Biro the other 2 guys left the band over time.

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Yes, I know that I've been a fan of theirs for quite some time!

He took over for David Clark in the early 2000s, who was the guitarist. But then, took over for Jason Dunn as the vocalist, when Jason left .