Is it true in Christianity?

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That if you put good energy into the world, it will come back to you triple-fold. That's what someone told me.
Christianity holds that virtue is its own reward. However, it is wrong to think that there is any mechanical or magical quid pro quo.

That's despite the fact that we all know of preachers whose following is mainly composed of poor and disadvantaged people who do employ--generally for their own benefit--the promise that if those people give, they will be forcing God's hand such that it is certain they will shortly receive back amazing financial windfalls.

And as for the "putting good energy" into the world, etc., that kind of superstition is not characteristic of Christian theology.
 
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No one has proven that they get sick, unemployed or die.

Are you kidding?
Hundreds of Christians have faced illnesses, like cancer - and every single born again Christian in the early church, and over the last 1900+ years, has died.

"John 11:26
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"

Read the verse before;
"Jesus said to her, 'I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies'." John 11:25

Jesus is talking about eternal death - he gives eternal life, so, of course, everyone who receives this will never die, even though their body does.

If your answer is no, then that would explain some of the results you speak of. For belief is required in this walk.

Are you saying that if a Christian has enough faith, they will never be sick, unemployed or die?
That's prosperity Gospel teaching, and it's not correct.

And do you still believe that everyone who calleth Him Lord, Lord are children of His?

I never quoted, nor commented on, that passage, so I don't know why you ask if I still believe it?
 
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Are you kidding?
Hundreds of Christians have faced illnesses, like cancer - and every single born again Christian in the early church, and over the last 1900+ years, has died.

Now tell me that you know the heart and salvation status of everyone you speak of, or that you were present at all of their deaths, and many I can start taking your account of them more seriously.

Read the verse before;
"Jesus said to her, 'I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies'." John 11:25

Jesus is talking about eternal death - he gives eternal life, so, of course, everyone who receives this will never die, even though their body does.

I would encourage you, as well, to read even the whole chapter and book. The verse before was talking about the power of God to raise those who have already died.....which he demonstrated, right after, in the raising of Lazarus. The verse I mention, spoke of those who were not dead, like lazarus.....and said that why will never die.....

But He also ask if you believed what He just said. You are free to not believe it, or change it into a version that is more easy for you to believe. I find no fault in it.

Are you saying that if a Christian has enough faith, they will never be sick, unemployed or die?
That's prosperity Gospel teaching, and it's not correct.

It is not as easy for me, nor is it beneficial, to judge those that are Christian and those that arent. My words relate only to spirit and truth, not religions. If you would like to discuss doctrines and laws as it relates to religions and denominations, there are others better suited than I. When you are ready to talk about truth that can be tested, and not meant to blindly believe, I am here.

I never quoted, nor commented on, that passage, so I don't know why you ask if I still believe it?

It seems as though you believed that everyone who preach are saved and all those who die a preacher are destined to eternal life.... e.g. castaways do not exist.

How else would you interpret the following:
If that were true, then people who did good things - including preaching the Gospel which is the best thing of all - would never get sick, be unemployed/broke, suffer bereavement or die.
 
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That if you put good energy into the world, it will come back to you triple-fold. That's what someone told me.
Well, maybe.. but you may not see it in this life.

I know many super generous and kind people who give till it hurts and they don't live a life that would depict what you are saying they should.. These are great God fearing Christians who don't do it for the reward but because they have huge kind hearts.

We are to model our lives after Christ. Not because we want earthly gain.. but for His will and His gospel to be made known.

Some may end up with rewards here.. but.. IMO.. it's for reward in Heaven.
 
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That if you put good energy into the world, it will come back to you triple-fold. That's what someone told me.
That's sounds a bit new agey, we don't use the law of attraction as followers of Christ. Becareful not to be sucked into age beliefs. The law of attraction is a demonic teaching it's the idea that if you believe in something it will come to you because you believe it. That goes into the idea that if you have negative energy you will attract negative things in your life and if you have positive energy positive things will come. We are to petition to God in Jesus name for our daily needs and believe that God will help us if it's something we truly need.
 
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That if you put good energy into the world, it will come back to you triple-fold. That's what someone told me.
Probably not in this world as much as in the world to come.
 
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Meaning doing good. Like helping someone going through a hard time, showing empathy for them.

As Christians, we have a similar principle- sowing and reaping. we do good, that is sowing. when we die, when we get to heaven we get reward for the good we have done.
 
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That if you put good energy into the world, it will come back to you triple-fold. That's what someone told me.

That's New Age talk that is false.
 
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I can see what your asking. Some would say what you sow is what you reap. The word "Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.".

Truth is Gods word. So much depends on you/us also. What you/us do think say hear read on and on. Yet Gods word is truth and if He said it..It will ALWAYS happen. One can live a great life up to 120 being healthy because He made that promise. But what do we hear from man? 60-80 at best. So we think that we confess it we believe. And we think God will do what? Go against our free will what we say and believe? No.. He Christ goes into some town and all He could do was lay hands on a few and teach because of unbelief.

What YOU need to do is.. believe what man says or God. What PROMISES did He give YOU in His word? How many go against everything we hear in the world? :)

Persecution.. yes.. we can be praying for a preacher in China's prison since 2017. USA is his home. We NEED to remember them..every day. Think.. every person you see. WHO is praying for them? Bless you.. in Jesus name. Petra song "I LOVE LORD" playing now.. awesome
 
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That if you put good energy into the world, it will come back to you triple-fold. That's what someone told me.

That kind of thinking seems to be more from the pantheism of the Hindus, Buddhists, and the American form of those belief systems, which believe that everything and everyone in the universe is the same as God. In their beliefs, we're all God and as a result have power to influence other people and animals and inanimate objects, who are also parts of God. You'll hear people say, "May the Force be with you." Or they say, "The universe was good to you."

On the contrary, our energy as believers in the God of the Bible must be God's power that he has given us through Jesus' victory through his death and resurrection. It's only through prayer based on his victory that we have any power. I would ask the person you heard it from why they believe that idea. It's not from the Bible.
 
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And in Hindu, they accept it as true.....They dont dismiss it and say "That's New Age so I refuse to benefit from knowing it."

Truth is truth, no matter what words we use to describe it....no matter how many religions and thought movements utilize it.

The reason why Hindus and Buddhists believe in karma is because it is an intrinsic notion within the Dharmic religious traditions; karma is necessary on account of the very nature of reality according to the Dharmic religions. Karma maintains balance, restoring order to reality. Beings are born, die, and are reborn through the endless cycles of the eternal universe; the ultimate goal of all living beings is to break free from the cycle of samsara and eventually return to the universal cosmic source.

Christianity does not recognize karma, because Christianity does not accept the definition of reality as proposed in the Dharmic tradition.

There are consequences to our actions and behavior, sometimes good consequences, sometimes bad consequences. Are these part of some cosmic law the governs reality? Well no. It's way more simple than that. Further, we can see there is no cosmic balancing playing itself out, because evil people get away with doing evil and often are seemingly rewarded for their wickedness while good people often get chewed up and spit out by the world. Hence the rather depressing saying that no good deed goes unpunished. It's why Christians do not look to this world, this present age, as a place of justice; but instead look forward to that future, coming Age where justice does reign.

"But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells." - 2 Peter 3:13

The day is coming when this present age and all its wicked works will be burned up, and God will bring refreshment, healing, and renewal to all creation. The day is coming when peace, mercy, and justice will flow like a river, from the Mountain of God, to the healing of all nations. For on that Day God will dwell with His people and will be their God. And the Uncreated Light of God will fill all creation.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Philippians 2:13

"for it is God who (works=energeo) in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose."


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energéō (from 1722 /en, "engaged in," which intensifies 2041 /érgon, "work") – properly, energize, working in a situation which brings it from one stage (point) to the next, like an electrical current energizing a wire, bringing it to a shining light bulb.
 
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That if you put good energy into the world, it will come back to you triple-fold. That's what someone told me.
God is the source of 'good energy' and apart from Jesus we can only offer 'sinful energy'.
 
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That if you put good energy into the world, it will come back to you triple-fold. That's what someone told me.
I would say so I just recently learned when you bless people or help them you are making a spiritual attack on the enemy. So I am down I wanna give the enemy a black-eye every chance I get.
 
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Now tell me that you know the heart and salvation status of everyone you speak of, or that you were present at all of their deaths, and many I can start taking your account of them more seriously.

No, I wasn't present at the death of the Apostle Peter, nor Paul, John Wesley, Charles Spurgeon, David Watson and others, but they died. Otherwise they'd still be around today, and Paul would have sorted the churches out before we got into our current mess.

Are you saying that if they'd had more faith, they wouldn't have died?

I would encourage you, as well, to read even the whole chapter and book. The verse before was talking about the power of God to raise those who have already died.....which he demonstrated, right after, in the raising of Lazarus. The verse I mention, spoke of those who were not dead, like lazarus.....and said that why will never die.....

People die physically; it's a fact.
Death came into the world along with sin - death is a fact of life; it has nothing to do with the amount of faith a person has. Mary, Martha, Lazarus, Peter etc have all died.

But He also ask if you believed what He just said. You are free to not believe it, or change it into a version that is more easy for you to believe. I find no fault in it.

Who asked?

The OP asked, "Is it true in Christianity that if you put good energy into the world it will return to you triple fold?"
You replied, "Yes. I believe the 'triple fold could be linked ....." (Post 34)
My reply that that was that if that statement were true (that all who do good get it back triple fold), then everyone who does good in the world will only receive good things - and will never get sick, be unemployed or die.
However much we may want it to be true, it is not the case that good people receive good things in return, while the people who get cancer, MS, have miscarriages and lose their jobs are bad, selfish people who never did good things for anyone.

It seems as though you believed that everyone who preach are saved and all those who die a preacher are destined to eternal life.... e.g. castaways do not exist.

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No, I said that it is not the case that good people, or people who do good, only receive good things in return.
I referred to preaching the Gospel, because that is the best thing that someone can do for someone else - show them the way to salvation.

How else would you interpret the following:

I don't need to interpret my own words, and have explained, above, what I meant by them.
If it were true that those who did/do good receive 3x the amount of good in return, then Christians would not get sick, lose their jobs etc.

The belief that Christians are "owed" a good life because they do good to others, is false.
Some people might say "I won the lottery recently; that was because I helped these people/cared for the homeless/founded a charity. It was karma." (i.e the belief that if you do good you will received good back.) But that is not a Christian belief.
 
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The reason why Hindus and Buddhists believe in karma is because it is an intrinsic notion within the Dharmic religious traditions; karma is necessary on account of the very nature of reality according to the Dharmic religions. Karma maintains balance, restoring order to reality. Beings are born, die, and are reborn through the endless cycles of the eternal universe; the ultimate goal of all living beings is to break free from the cycle of samsara and eventually return to the universal cosmic source.

Christianity does not recognize karma, because Christianity does not accept the definition of reality as proposed in the Dharmic tradition.

There are consequences to our actions and behavior, sometimes good consequences, sometimes bad consequences. Are these part of some cosmic law the governs reality? Well no. It's way more simple than that. Further, we can see there is no cosmic balancing playing itself out, because evil people get away with doing evil and often are seemingly rewarded for their wickedness while good people often get chewed up and spit out by the world. Hence the rather depressing saying that no good deed goes unpunished. It's why Christians do not look to this world, this present age, as a place of justice; but instead look forward to that future, coming Age where justice does reign.

"But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells." - 2 Peter 3:13

The day is coming when this present age and all its wicked works will be burned up, and God will bring refreshment, healing, and renewal to all creation. The day is coming when peace, mercy, and justice will flow like a river, from the Mountain of God, to the healing of all nations. For on that Day God will dwell with His people and will be their God. And the Uncreated Light of God will fill all creation.

-CryptoLutheran
This is not about religion versus religion. All the religions in the world can utilize the words "What a man soweth, That shall he also reap" and rephrase it anyway they like.....and it will still be truth. Call it Karma, call it Dharma, call it the law of attraction or whatever you like. Still it is still the truth.

Whether you call it God's law or the law of energy, or cosmic law, matters not. It is still the law.

It would be wise not to abandon truth, just because one you think it the enemy, got ahold of it and started using it with you..... Let us not be selfish, God rains on the just and the unjust, and I would see it no different.

Gods word is true, no matter who uses it.

And let us not judge man by the outer appearance....assuming that they are in great shape because they are rich or in terrible shape because of money in the bank. If a man sows evil seeds,, he will reap evil fruit......whether or not they appear to be reaping them by those who are looking at appearance.

"What a man soweth, That shall he also reap"

If we cant believe this........what else in the bible can we toss out?
 
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