Covid19-Comparing response and deaths across nations, over time.

Sweden's herd immunity approach isn't going well.

...suggest adding South American countries. to the table.

wing2000 said:

...suggest adding South American countries. to the table.

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Depending on how @tall73 is doing it, building that table can be a tedious copy/paste/edit process or, equally tedious, manual entry.

Below is a link to the Worldometer world data. Using the table for all countries you can limit the data to individual continents (like South America). On the left of the table header you'll see the continents listed. Click on South America and the list will cover only the countries in that part of the world.

For even more fun, copy/paste versions of the table into Excel and you can do amazing things like comparing stuff (like continents) to other stuff (like other continents or GDP or population density or median age or average temperatures or.......) or adding it all up and dividing by the number you first thought of.

Truly Nerd Paradise.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 5,684,803 Cases and 352,225 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
OB

Sweden used to have one of the strongest, TOP-5 country brands in the world: nice, reliable, trustworthy, efficient. To build those country brands takes years and decades. To undo a country brand takes no more than a few weeks or a couple of months, as brand "Sweden" has found out the hard way. That's a billion dollars economic bye-bye there.

Here in neighbouring Finland, the Finnish summer is bright and short, and fraught with all kinds of dangers big and small: vipers, ticks, deer flies, bears -- and Swedes.

Headline of leading local Finnish newspaper the day before yesterday:

Bottlenose dolphins sighted off Finnish coast for first time in nearly 70 years

Headline of the same paper yesterday:

Swedes spotted in Finnish archipelago
Several cars with Swedish license plates. Be careful, folks, and stay safe!

I wish I was kidding.

There's been talk about a Nordic travel bubble, or perhaps even Nordic-Baltic travel bubble for the coming summer, as the countries have all managed to press down those Covid-19 infections. Denmark says it could re-open its borders to Germany and Norway, but not to Sweden. Norway says it could consider re-opening its borders to Denmark and Finland, but not to Sweden. When asked about the possibility of recontinuing cruises between Helsinki, FI, and Stockholm, SE, Helsinki residents response is uniform: "But who'd want to go to Sweden!? And Swedes are not welcome to Finland."

Meanwhile, the Swedish Foreign Minister Ann Linde is boohooing that the poor Swedes are being treated unfairly by their mean Nordic neighbours...

Sweden says exclusion from Nordic travel zone would be 'political'

Yes, FM Linde, it is political. Finland's, pop. 5.5 million, COVID-19 policies have led to 312 deaths. Sweden's, pop. 10.3 million, COVID-19 policies have led to 4,029 and counting deaths, which is 3,400 excess deaths when compared to Finland. So no, it's not a "complicated issue" and no, Sweden's COVID-19 strategy is not "the best in the world," no matter how many times the Swedish health agency repeats the ridiculous claim in pompous Trumpian fashion.

tall73 said:

Able to compare a few snapshots in time now:

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Thanks @tall73

Based on a combination of the rate of increase since 15 April and today's deaths per million, it looks like Sweden, the UK and the US are the current 'winners'. I'm also hearing suggestions that the US may be entering a second phase. I'm not sure whether UK and Sweden are tailing off yet.

Meanwhile...in New Zeeland...

EDIT: UK appears to be tailing off, Sweden's numbers (cases and death rate) are all over the place and the US appears to be running on the spot at around 1000 deaths per mill. (based on the 7 day rolling average from Worldometer)
OB

There's going to be a ton of data for the epidemiologists out there to ponder over.


Mass transit definitely figures into the mix.

Identified contact tracing using cell phones is illegal in the USA but perfectly legitimate in other countries.

Behaviors matter....that's going to be the focus of the studies. And then the next pandemic will give us a much better idea how to actually make a workable quarantine without all the knee jerking next time.

Of course genetics play a role...but not nearly as much as behaviors do.

And in the years to come we will see what actually worked and what really didn't.