Do you believe the KJV is the one and only perfect and divine Word of God?


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I love God's Word (the KJV).
Others may doubt, but that is on them.

Peace and blessings be unto you all.

I love God's word.
I HAVE God's word.
I don't read the KJV.

I wish you all the best and a great Christian life - but you are wrong to imply that the NIV, and other Bibles, are not God's word and, if we don't read the KJV, we don't have God's word.
 
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From this point on:
I am going to strive so as not to read everyone's posts here who are against the KJV. I also will strive to not respond directly (directly quote) a person's post here, either. It will not benefit anyone here for me to argue with anyone's whose eyes are close on this topic.

I may go over my points again in defense for the truth of God's Word (if folks are trying to clutter up my thread with their wrong agenda), but I will not respond to them directly.

I may also add more information in defense for the King James Bible being the Word of God when the Lord directs me to do so. But I am going to strive to not read everyone's posts here who are against God's Holy Word. If you don't believe after seeing my reasons, I cannot force you to see what you don't want to see.

Lets agree to disagree in love and respect.

Love, peace, and blessings be unto you all.
 
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Not reading anyone's posts anymore who are against the KJV here.
It will not benefit anyone here for me to argue with anyone's whose eyes are close on this topic.

I will add more information in defense for the King James Bible being the Word of God when the Lord directs me to do so. But I am going to strive to not read posts here who are against God's Holy Word. If you don't believe after seeing my reasons, I cannot force you to see what you don't want to see.

Lets agree to disagree in love and respect.

Love, peace, and blessings be unto you all.

I knew this was coming. He'll only talk to us if we agree with him.

He doesn't want to see the real truth. He has hedged his bets on the KJVO and if it's proven false his world will come crashing down. He has said so.

For those that will see this thread later, the KJVO stance is straight from the pits of hell to cause strife and separation between Christians. They have all this evidence, entirely made up and without merit unless you go back to the KJVO talking points.

There is nothing wrong with the newer versions. I myself have issue with the KJV because it is distracting to me with the English that it uses as it's not in today's vernacular. I shouldn't need a dictionary by my side in order to just read the Bible so I can figure out what the words in Shakespeare's time are.

When searching for a new Bible, I prayed for guidance and leading, and God directed me to the NKJV. It is a fine read and easy to understand. I was looking for another Bible as my trusty NKJV was wearing out, and this time He lead me to the NIV Life Application Study Bible.

God himself has no issues with modern versions as can be seen by my answered prayers for guidance.

If you don't mind reading the KJV, then please, do so. It's not a terrible Bible, but it's not a Bible that all can read.
 
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No offense to anyone here; But currently at this time, I am not interested anymore in what:
Anti-One Perfect Word of God in our World Language Today” type folk
have to say.

They just keep repeating the same lines and most of them will not see it.
I am not here to convince those who do not want to see.

I have listed 30 reasons in defense for the King James Bible or perfect Word that exists in our world language today. It should be enough. All one has to do is be open minded to the truth to see it. Most do not want to be held accountable to a final Word of authority. That is why I believe the majority do not accept what I am trying to say here. People can meet God only so far in what He says, but if it is not exactly what He says, folks can get off course or track. We know that Eve did not follow exactly God's command. She followed an alteration of it and it led to Adam disobeying God and thus the “Fall.” Granted, I am not saying that everyone who places their faith solely in Modern Translations is going to be led astray or to fall away from the faith (in every case), but I believe the chances are greater (if they know the truth and they reject it) (Note: Not everyone will be held accountable to this truth because not everyone has a perfect Word in their language). I believe the Modern Translations sow confusion and doubt because they do not all say the same thing. There can only be ONE Word of God, and not many. If one word is changed in God's Holy Word, its no longer the Word of God but an imitation of His Word.
 
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They just keep repeating the same lines and most of them will not see it.

Pot meet kettle.

I have proof that the KJV is not the only word of God. He lead me to two modern versions, yet, you refuse to see it.

Most do not want to be held accountable to a final Word of authority.

Non-sequitor.

Anti-One Perfect Word of God in our World Language Today

You yourself has said that God will provide a Bible in your language. Sixteen hundreds English is not my language. I speak the American English of today. As more years pass, the English of the 1600s will become more ancient and will be as you called the ancient languages of Jesus time a dead language.

If one word is changed in God's Holy Word, its no longer the Word of God but an imitation of His Word.

Then Houston, you have a problem because as has been shown to you countless times, the KJV has changed, added and taken away from God's word. What is it you said above? Oh, that's right, "They just keep repeating the same lines and most of them will not see it."

Like I said in my opening sentence in this reply, pot meet kettle.
 
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While others may mock my faith in believing the Scriptures on how there is a perfect Word of God for our generation today, I know God's Word will not return void. For one plants, and another waters, but it is God who gives the increase. May God get all the glory for any good truth I have shown on this topic. Praise be unto the Lord for His glorious Word. It's beautiful, and I have 100% complete faith and trust in my Bible (the KJV) (i.e. His Word). Nobody can take that away from me. For His Word is more precious than any treasure. I will stand behind every word (or letter) God says in His Holy Word by faith. For I do this because I know that without faith, it is impossible to please God and that faith comes by hearing, and hearing the Word of God.

May the good ways of the Lord be unto you all.
 
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The OAO (Original Autograph Only) Proponent,” or “The Anti-One Perfect Word of God for our World Language Today Type Person” cannot make a good case for their belief in Scripture. I have defended my viewpoint with Scripture. Yet, I know their position is biblically bankrupt. I have not in my many years seen the Modern Translation camp defend their position in a signficant way with the Bible. It's all an outside (eisegesis) argument that they are trying to make.
 
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Not reading anyone's posts anymore who are against the KJV here.

No one has ever said they are against the KJV.
We just don't accept that the KJV is perfect - it isn't.

The KJV is the word of God - so are the NIV, RSV, NASB and others.
 
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People today are against a perfect Word of God in our world language today.
It's why they will argue for the contrary.
What is the reason?
Mankind does not want to be held accountable to a final Word of authority.
 
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“The OAO (Original Autograph Only) Proponent,” or “The Anti-One Perfect Word of God for our World Language Today Type Person” cannot make a good case for their belief in Scripture. I have defended my viewpoint with Scripture. Yet, I know their position is biblically bankrupt.

Your arguments are completely illogical.
I'll tell you why, if you're interested - but I doubt you will be.
 
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People today are against a perfect Word of God in our world language today.

JESUS is THE Word of God; he is perfect.
Man made translations of the Bible are not, but they don't have to be. The Bible is still God's holy, inspired word.
 
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The King James Bible is the Word of God.
Folks will either believe it, or they will not believe it.
One has to seek out the truth on this matter to discover it, though.
Only those who are resistant to such truth will never see it.
I had no problem accepting the KJV as the Word of God because there is evidence to prove that fact.
 
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I believe Christ is pure (1 John 3:3), and the word is pure (Proverbs 30:5).
In fact, there is a...

Symbiotic Relationship Between
The Living Word, & the Communicated Word:


  1. Christ is good (John 10:11, John 10:14), and the word is good (1 Kings 2:42).

  2. Christ is the truth (John 14:6), and the word is the truth (John 17:17).

  3. Christ is called Faithful and True (Revelation 19:11), and the word is called faithful and true (Revelation 22:6).

  4. Christ is pure (1 John 3:3), and the word is pure (Proverbs 30:5).

  5. Christ is incorruptible (Acts of the Apostles 2:27), and the word is incorruptible (1 Peter 1:23).

  6. Christ abides forever (John 12:34), and the word abides forever (1 Peter 1:23).

  7. Christ’s name: “Jesus” is above all names (Which would include God’s name) (Philippians 2:9-10), and the word is above God’s name (Psalms 138:2).

  8. Christ has flaming eyes of fire (Revelation 19:12), and the Word is like a fire (Jeremiah 23:29).

  9. Christ can burn things like a fire (Matthew 3:12), and the word can burn things like a fire (Luke 24:32).

  10. Christ can be eaten (John 6:57), and the word can be eaten (Jeremiah 15:16).

  11. Christ is like the discovery of treasure (Matthew 13:44-46, cf. 2 Corinthians 4:7-10), and the word is like the discovery of treasure (Psalms 119:162).

  12. Christ is the light (John 8:12), and the word is light (Psalms 119:105).

  13. Christ is life (John 14:6, 1 John 5:12), and the word is life (John 6:63).

  14. Christ is the living bread (John 6:51), and the word is the living bread (Matthew 4:4).

  15. Christ is eternal life (Romans 6:23, 1 Timothy 6:16, 1 John 5:20) and the word is eternal life (John 6:68) (cf. Matthew 24:35, John 6:63).

  16. Christ quickens (makes alive) (John 5:21), and the word quickens (makes alive) (Psalms 119:50).

  17. It is by Christ which makes the gospel possible (1 Corinthians 15:1-4), and it is by the word which makes the gospel possible (1 Peter 1:25).

  18. Christ is near to men (Acts 17:27) (Revelation 3:20) (Psalms 145:18), and the word is near to men (Romans 10:8).

  19. Christ discerns the heart (Matthew 9:4, Luke 9:47), and the word discerns the heart (Hebrews 4:12).

  20. Christ can get men through a storm (Mark 4:35-41), and the word can get men through a storm (Matthew 7:24-25).

  21. Christ sanctifies (John 17:19), and the word sanctifies (John 17:17).

  22. A person can stumble over Christ (Romans 9:33, 1 Peter 2:5-8), and a person can stumble over the word (1 Peter 2:8).

  23. Christ will judge men (John 5:22), and the word will judge men (John 12:48).

  24. Christ’s bones were never broken (John 19:36 cf. Psalms 34:20), and the word is never broken (John 10:35).

  25. Believers are told to seek after Christ (Matthew 28:5, Mark 16:6), and believers are told to seek after the word (Isaiah 34:16).

  26. Christ is our hope (1 Thessalonians 1:3, Colossians 1:27, 1 Timothy 1:1), and the word is our hope (Psalms 130:5).

  27. Believers are to have the mind of Christ (1 Corinthians 2:16), and believers are to meditate (use their mind) upon the word (Psalms 119:148, 1 Timothy 2:15 KJV).

  28. Christ is to be heard and obeyed (Matthew 7:24), and the word is to be heard and obeyed (James 1:22).

  29. The love of God is within Christ (Romans 8:39), and keeping the word places the love of God within us (1 John 2:5) (Also see John 14:23).

  30. Christ is the way to the living waters, which is the Holy Spirit (John 7:37-39), and the washing of the water of the word (Ephesians 5:25-27) (which is obedience to God) is the way to having the Spirit (Acts of the Apostles 5:32).

  31. Christ is like the foundation that is a part of a house (1 Corinthians 3:9, 1 Corinthians 3:11), and He is like a rock (1 Corinthians 10:4), and the obeying the word is like a house built upon the rock (Matthew 7:24).

  32. Believers are to follow after the steps of Christ (1 Peter 2:21), and believers are to order their steps in the word (Psalms 119:133).

  33. Christ breathed the Spirit upon his faithful chosen (John 20:22), and the word is “inspired by God” (i.e. God breathed) for the benefit of his faithful chosen (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

  34. Christ is the way to having the fruits of righteousness (Philippians 1:11), and the word is the way to being instructed in righteousness so to be perfect unto all good works (fruits) (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

  35. Christ can abide in us (John 15:4-7) (Ephesians 3:17) (Philippians 4:13), and the word can abide in us (John 15:7, Psalms 119:11).

  36. Christ dwells in our hearts (Ephesians 3:17), and the word dwells in our hearts (Colossians 3:16).

  37. Believers can be hidden in Christ (Colossians 3:3), and the word can be hidden in believers (Psalms 119:11).

  38. Christ is always with us (Matthew 28:20), and the word is always with us (Psalms 119:98).

  39. Christ can make our joy full (John 15:11), and the word can make our joy full (1 John 1:4).

  40. Believers’ hearts rejoice with Christ (John 16:22), and believers’ hearts rejoice with the word (Jeremiah 15:16).

The communicated word of God that we have today is the Bible.

“So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” (Isaiah 55:11).​

Jesus (the Living Word) was sent by the commandment (mouth) of the Father. Jesus said and did everything the Father told Him to do (John 12:49) (John 14:31).

What is interesting is that the Living Word accomplished that which the Father commanded Him to do and to prosper (accomplish) that thing He sent to do (i.e. Jesus suffered on the cross, and said, “It is finished” and died for man’s sins). Jesus was risen three days later, and ascended to the Father. God’s Word (the living Word) did not return void by whom the Father sent.

The communicated Word can also be sent out and not return void, as well. For many have believed and have stayed faithful to what God’s Word says.

In the creation: The Word made flesh (John 1:1, John 1:14) (i.e. Christ) created everything. In the beginning God spoke words to bring forth the creation in six days (Genesis 1:1-31).

So in the beginning was the Living Word, and the communicated Word.

In the end of this sinful world: Christ will return (Revelation 19:11-21) and a sharp sword will proceed from His mouth. This sword could be the “sword of the Spirit,” (Which is the Word of God) or it could be symbolic of such (Ephesians 6:17).

So in the end there will be the Living Word, and the communicated Word.

For at Christ’s return: His name is called The “Word of God.” (Revelation 19:13) (Living Word).

On His thigh, and vesture is a name written (words) “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” (Communicated Word).

Jesus was beaten to a pulp and crucified on a tree.

The Word we have today (the Bible) is a result of pulp made from a tree.

Jesus was the Word made flesh (covered in skin).

The Word we have today (the Bible) is popular to be available covered in skin (leather).

Words on the page hang on this tree (paper) (the Bible),
just like the Living Word hung on a tree (the cross).
 
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Only one Bible can be the Word of God.
God's Word does not have errors within it.
For it is a reflection of His own perfection.

Side Note:

Also, the 1600's English does continue on to this day. It is alive and well within the hearts of believers who hold and preach from the King James Bible.
 
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Another interesting tidbit of information to show you the connection between the "Living Word" and the "Communicated Word" is that the words:

1. "Jesus Christ"
2. "book(s)" (i.e. both the word "book" and "books").
3. "son of man."

Appears 196 times in the King James Bible.
Now, don't try and do the search at BlueLetterBible.org. Their search there is inaccurate on the count of the number results. Either check online or download the program called "Pure King James Bible Search."

Oh, and you need to put the * symbol after a word when you want to search related words combined together. So if you want to search both the word "book" and "books," it needs to look like this: ___ book*____ in the search box.

Online Version (Pure KJV Search):

King James Pure Bible Search WebChannel Server

Software Version Download (PC / Mac / Linux / Mobile apps):

http://www.purebiblesearch.com/


Anyways, what is interesting is that the last occurence of the the "son of man" is Revelation 14:14.

14 x 14 = 196.
 
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