GOD'S LAW AND JUDGEMENT TIME - ARE YOU READY?

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I'll leave you with some more Catholic quotes to ponder.
Why would you call the RCC as a reliable witness?
You may be supporting Sabbatarianism, but the Church certainly doesn't.
 
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Why would you call the RCC as a reliable witness? You may be supporting Sabbatarianism, but the Church certainly doesn't.

Depends on what you mean by Church. Gods true Church according to the scriptures are defined as those who beleive and follow all of God's Word and keeps God's commandments including God's 4th commandment see REVELATION 12:17; REVELATION 14:12; REVELATION 22:14; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:4-9; JAMES 2:10-11; JOHN 10:26-27. According to the scriptures those who knowingly do not keep God's commandments and are living in known unrepentant sin are not following God and are not God's Church or are they His children according to the scruiptures *1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:9-10. In times of ignorance when we do not know any better God winks at so if we consider ACTS OF THE APOSTLES 17:30-31 and JAMES 4:17 these scriptures broaden the biblical definition of God's Church to all people everywhere that are living up to all the knowledge of God's Word that God has revealed to them (see also JOHN 10:16; JOHN 4:23-24). This means God's children are in every Church who have not rejected his Word. The scriptures teach that God is calling his people out where ever they may be from following the teachings and traditions of men back to the pure Word of God as God is a Spirit and those who worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth *JOHN 4:23-24; REVELATION 18:1-5. Those who have been given a knowledge of the truth of God's Word and reject God's Word according to the scriptures to continue to live a life of known unrepentant sin which is defined as not believing Gods' Word and breaking anyone of God's 10 commandments (ROMANS 14:23; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4) will not enter into the kingdom of heaven because they reject the gift of God's dear son and count the blood of the covenant an unholy thing doing despite to the Spirit of grace (see HEBREWS 10:26-27; ROMANS 6:23).

God bless.
 
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Why would you call the RCC as a reliable witness?
You may be supporting Sabbatarianism, but the Church certainly doesn't.

It's a matter of historical record:

Constantine decreed (March 7, 321) dies Solis—day of the sun, "Sunday"—as the Roman day of rest just prior to the Council of Nicaea:

“On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for grain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.”

Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ. (Canon 29 [A.D. 360]). (The Church Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE)
 
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It's a matter of historical record:

Constantine decreed (March 7, 321) dies Solis—day of the sun, "Sunday"—as the Roman day of rest just prior to the Council of Nicaea:

“On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for grain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.”

Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ. (Canon 29 [A.D. 360]). (The Church Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE)
That was the fourth century.
The Didache was written between 70 and 120 AD.
Revelation is dated at 95 AD. Same time frame.

Furthermore, the canon you quote proves that "Lord's Day" was already being observed. This was a change in the day of rest, not in the day of worship. The Lord's Day and the Sabbath are two different things.

Canon 29
Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.
 
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The Didache was written between 70 and 120 AD

And?

Revelation is dated at 95 AD. Same time frame.

What does some cryptic isolated reference in Revelation prove?

Furthermore, the canon you quote proves that "Lord's Day" was already being observed.

No it doesn't. It proves that the venerable day of the Sun was being observed. It's well documented that Constantine was a sun worshipper.

This was a change in the day of rest,

No one but YHWH has that authority.

The Lord's Day and the Sabbath are two different things.

Agreed. That is the point that I've been working off of.
 
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What does some cryptic isolated reference in Revelation prove?
Nothing on it's own.
As you said, and I agree, "the Lord’s Day" is not there defined.
It is however defined in early church writings from the same time period.
The Apostle John was worshiping on Sunday.

Revelation 1:10
On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,
 
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That was the fourth century.
The Didache was written between 70 and 120 AD.
Revelation is dated at 95 AD. Same time frame.

Furthermore, the canon you quote proves that "Lord's Day" was already being observed. This was a change in the day of rest, not in the day of worship. The Lord's Day and the Sabbath are two different things.

Canon 29
Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.

The Didache is not the bible. They are teachings from the early Roman Catholic Church. Anything outside of the bible that teaches against scripture should not be preferred before scriptures especially if it is teaching against God's Word or contradicting it.
 
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A tad late to the party. Seems the train has left the tracks.. not a bad thing at all in this case. Not here to debate anything. Not sure how you meant Judgement. Shh I can hear you "after all that?" haha..

Judged.. have been. Only one coming for the believer is the judgement seat of Christ which is on works. I am forever living forever. See no sin can enter heaven. Yet I do boldly come before the Father and I do sit in heavenly places. I have been already created in righteousness and true holiness. No longer I that sin but sin that is in me. Maybe this is what you said. Which was allot.. praise GOD for doing that.
 
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The Apostle John was worshiping on Sunday.

I worship every day; but why bring this up? You've already stated that you recognize that SUNday is not YHWH's Sabbath; no?
 
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A tad late to the party. Seems the train has left the tracks.. not a bad thing at all in this case. Not here to debate anything. Not sure how you meant Judgement. Shh I can hear you "after all that?" haha..

Judged.. have been. Only one coming for the believer is the judgement seat of Christ which is on works. I am forever living forever. See no sin can enter heaven. Yet I do boldly come before the Father and I do sit in heavenly places. I have been already created in righteousness and true holiness. No longer I that sin but sin that is in me. Maybe this is what you said. Which was allot.. praise GOD for doing that.

God bless dear blade. Well said. May God bless you as you continue to seek him through his Word.
 
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I worship every day; but why bring this up? You've already stated that you recognize that SUNday is not YHWH's Sabbath; no?
No. The Sabbath is the Sabbath and Sunday is the first day of the week, the queen of days, the day of Christ's resurrection, the eighth day, the Lord's Day.

The Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel. Not for anyone else.

Exodus 31:13
Say to the Israelites, ‘You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy.

Ezekiel 20:12
Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy.

Ezekiel 20:20
Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.”
 
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The Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel. Not for anyone else.

Agreed. YHWH's covenant is with Israel.

Yahshua was commissioned only for Israel.

If one isn't in covenant with YHWH through Yahshua; that sign means nothing.
 
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Agreed. YHWH's covenant is with Israel.

Yahshua was commissioned only for Israel.

If one isn't in covenant with YHWH through Yahshua; that sign means nothing.
No.
The covenant through Jesus is a new covenant. It replaces the old covenant.

Hebrews 8:7, 13
For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. ...
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
 
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(CLV) Hb 8:10
"For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days," the Lord is saying: "Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.

(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, [Yahshua] answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
 
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