The babel tower

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the atmospheric layer is hight up to about 100km and it is known that breathing is impossible out of that layer;

Now, the Bible tells us in Genesis 11:4-7

"4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
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5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Here, humans decided to build a tower whose top reaches heaven; my questions are:
-could that building have reached at least 100km height?
-we know that after 100km breathing becomes difficult, could those men have reached their goal of reaching heaven?
-we also know about the universe and others planets made by God, this make us believe that heaven is far above 100km as must planets are separated by thousands or millions km....how could have these men reached heaven with brick building? can brick walls stand above 100km?
-why did the Lord react that way? He who knows everything?
I don't think it was 100km BTW, but here is an article on a picture that is 30-40 years old for the tower, but the site has been destroyed since then:

(click here for archaeology on the tower of babel
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I don't think it was 100km BTW, but here is an article on a picture that is 30-40 years old for the tower, but the site has been destroyed since then:

(click here for archaeology on the tower of babel
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Can't be.
Josephus wrote that the site of the ruins were still visited in his day, and the remains of the base of tower took a man 3 days to walk around.
In the history book of the righteous -Book of Jasher (the true one), God destroyed the top third of it by fire (must have nuked it), opened up the earth and the bottom third was swallowed by the earth (that's a mighty sinkhole), and the middle was left.
The middle remaining would look like a very tall mountain in the middle of a plain.
 
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Can't be.
Josephus wrote that the site of the ruins were still visited in his day, and the remains of the base of tower took a man 3 days to walk around.
In the history book of the righteous -Book of Jasher (the true one), God destroyed the top third of it by fire (must have nuked it), opened up the earth and the bottom third was swallowed by the earth (that's a mighty sinkhole), and the middle was left.
The middle remaining would look like a very tall mountain in the middle of a plain.
well that does contradict other archaology: "Sir Henry Rawlinson found in a foundation corner in Borsippa a cylinder with this inscription: “The tower of Borshppa, which a former king erected, and completed to a height of 42 cubits, whose summit he did not finish, fell to ruins in ancient times. There was no proper care of its gutters for the water; rain and storms had washed away its brick, and the tiles of its roof were broken. The great god Marduk urged me to restore it. I did not alter its site, or change its foundation walls. At a favorable time I renewed its brick work and its roofing tiles, and I wrote my name on the cornices of the edifice. I built it anew as it had been ages before; I erected its pinnacle as it was in remote days.” This seems like a tradition of the unfinished tower of Babel"- Haley's Bible Handbook.
 
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well that does contradict other archaology: "Sir Henry Rawlinson found in a foundation corner in Borsippa a cylinder with this inscription: “The tower of Borshppa, which a former king erected, and completed to a height of 42 cubits, whose summit he did not finish, fell to ruins in ancient times. There was no proper care of its gutters for the water; rain and storms had washed away its brick, and the tiles of its roof were broken. The great god Marduk urged me to restore it. I did not alter its site, or change its foundation walls. At a favorable time I renewed its brick work and its roofing tiles, and I wrote my name on the cornices of the edifice. I built it anew as it had been ages before; I erected its pinnacle as it was in remote days.” This seems like a tradition of the unfinished tower of Babel"- Haley's Bible Handbook.
You must do a bit of Bible searching on the facts of who Nimrod was, when he lived, where he lived and how Abraham’s father, Terah, was made the general of the army of Nimrod -and so on.

Nimrod was the third generation from Noah, being son of Cush, but Abraham was tenth generation from Noah, yet they were contemporaries.
Nimrod’s uncle, Mizraim, is “Egypt” in the translations, but the original is “Mizraim”.
Shem outlived Abraham.
Shem, Noah, and Abraham were also comtempories, along with other of Noah’s descendants.

Nimrod lived in Damascus, which is the oldest continuously occupied city in the world.

The scouts for the building of the tower whose top was to heaven walked two days from where they dwelt, east of Damascus, to find a plain to build the planned tower.

Amraphael of Genesis 14 was Nimrod, whose name, “Amraphael”, was coined after the fall of the tower, and which is Hebrew for “in him/el, they/am, fell/Rapha” so Abraham chased the five kings all the way up to Hoban, north of Damascus.
On the way back, the king of righteousness/melche tzedek, who was at that time king of Salem -which was later called Jerusalem, met Abraham and gave him the blessing [of the title of “firstborn”], which was a temporary office because of the fall of the first, firstborn of earth and which title was passed from all the sons of Adam through Seth, down to Noah, and then to Shem himself, who received that blessing from Noah, though Shem was not the firstborn son of Noah.
So Shem was priest and king of the most high God at Salem, and he gave the blessing of the office to Abraham.
That office was passed down through the sons of Jacob and split into two offices, by Moses, when he made Aaron the high priest, but not the high king, which office was to be held by the sons of Aaron until He who was to come as Everlasting Father, High Priest and High King of earth should take His place and sit on the throne in the mount that our first father, Adam, was to have done, so as to rule as Patriarch over the earth....but the fall...

Okay, that was just a few bites of real history for you to go search out for yourself to see if these things be so.
At any rate, Nimrod’s tower was destroyed, the mother tongue was confounded, the ONE earth/land mass was divided/broken up into the many, and the life span of the sons of Adam/man, were cut short/off, from the former lengths. And all because of the rebellion of the tower that men aspired to “reach heaven”, by, and which heaven was where Adam was cast down from at the fall, and is where the Garden of Eden is, and which is in the third heaven.
Go read it all in the Bible, for yourself.
Paul went up to the third heaven, when thought dead. It was “Paradise”, said Paul. Go read it.
Paradise is where the Tree of Life is, states Genesis, and says Jesus, in Revelation.
 
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You must do a bit of Bible searching on the facts of who Nimrod was, when he lived, where he lived and how Abraham’s father, Terah, was made the general of the army of Nimrod -and so on.

Nimrod was the third generation from Noah, being son of Cush, but Abraham was tenth generation from Noah, yet they were contemporaries.
Nimrod’s uncle, Mizraim is “Egypt” in the translations, but the original is “Mizraim”.
Shem outlived Abraham.
Shem, Noah, and Abraham were also comtempories, along with other of Noah’s descendants.

Nimrod lived in Damascus, which is the oldest continuously occupied city in the world.

The scouts for the building of the tower whose top was to heaven walked two days from where they dwelt, east of Damascus.

Amraphael of Genesis 14 was Nimrod, whose name, “Amraphael”, was coined after the fall of the tower, and which is Hebrew for “in him/el, they/am, fell/Rapha” so Abraham chased the five kings all the way up to Hoban, north of Damascus.
On the way back, the king of righteousness/melche tzedek, who was at that time king of Salem -later called Jerusalem, met Abraham and gave him the blessing [of the title of “firstborn”], which was a temporary office because of the fall of the first, firstborn of earth and which was passed from all the sons of Adam through Seth, down to Noah, and then to Shem himself, who received that blessing from Noah, though Shem was not the firstborn son of Noah. Shem was priest and king of the most high God at Salem, and gave the office to Abraham.
That office was passed down through the sons of Jacob and split into two offices, until He who was to come as Everlasting Father, High Priest and High King of earth should take His place and sit on the throne in the mount that our first father, Adam, was to have done, so as to rule as Patriarch over the earth....but the fall...

Okay, that was just a few bites of real history for you to go search out for yourself to see if these things be so.
At any rate, Nimrod’s tower was destroyed, the mother tongue was confounded, the ONE earth/land mass
was divided/broken up into the many, and the life span of the sons of Adam/man, were cut short/off, from the former lengths.
All because of the rebellion of the tower that men aspired to “reach heaven”, by, and which heaven was where Adam was cast down from at the fall, and is where the Garden of Eden is, and which is in the third heaven.
Go read it all in the Bible, for yourself.
Paul went up to the third heaven, when thought dead. It was “Paradise”, said Paul. Go read it.
Paradise is where the Tree of Life is, states Genesis, and says Jesus, in Revelation.
so what verses are you saying give proof of the location of the tower? I didn't understand that part.
 
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so what verses are you saying give proof of the location of the tower? I didn't understand that part.
It was 2 days walk east of Damascus, where Nimrod dwelt.
Damascus is in Syria.
Terah, Abram/Abraham's father, was a Syrian.
Abraham was a Syrian.
Terah was made the general over Nimrod's armies.
Damascus is the oldest continuously occupied city in the world.
When Abraham chased Nimrod and the kings who raided Sodom and the cities to get back the people and booty they took, he chased them all the way back to north of Damascus, to Hobah.
Genesis 14.
Use a concordance and prove those facts for yourself.
 
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It was 2 days walk east of Damascus, where Nimrod dwelt.
Damascus is in Syria.
Terah, Abram/Abraham's father, was a Syrian.
Abraham was a Syrian.
Terah was made the general over Nimrod's armies.
Damascus is the oldest continuously occupied city in the world.
When Abraham chased Nimrod and the kings who raided Sodom and the cities to get back the people and booty they took, he chased them all the way back to north of Damascus, to Hobah.
Genesis 14.
Use a concordance and prove those facts for yourself.
Thank you, genesis 14 has no word (demascus). So how do you know that is where that was?
 
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Thank you, genesis 14 has no word (demascus). So how do you know that is where that was?
Genesis 14 states Abraham and his men chased the kings up to Hobah, left of Damascus.
Nimrod was the same "Amraphael".
Nimrod was named that after the destruction of the tower. In Hebrew, that name means "in him they fell"- Am rapha el".
Nimrod/Am rapha el was king of Shinar, in Genesis 14.

Do note, also, that Terah, Abraham's father, dwelt in Syria.

Abraham was born in Syria and there was never a city named ur, but ur was the fire of the Kasdim that God delivered Abraham from, and in which his brother, Haran, died because his father, Terah, lied to Nimrod to save his own skin, and Haran and Abraham were cast into the kiln fires outside the city. Haran died in the fire because he did not believe in the LORD God of Abraham, who delivered Abraham from the fire. But you will have to go read that in the real "Book of the Upright" aka, the history Book of Jasher". The real one, not the fakes.
Deu 26:5
And thou shalt speak and say before the LORD thy God, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous:"

Jacob, is confessed before the LORD as a "Syrian" because Abraham was a Syrian, by location of his birth. Damascus is the capitol city of Syria. Nimrod was king of Shinar. The first and main city in Shinar was Damascus, IMHO, for it is oldest...
 
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Genesis 14 states Abraham and his men chased the kings up to Hobah, left of Damascus.
Nimrod was the same "Amraphael".
Nimrod was named that after the destruction of the tower. In Hebrew, that name means "in him they fell"- Am rapha el".
Nimrod/Am rapha el was king of Shinar, in Genesis 14.

Do note, also, that Terah, Abraham's father, dwelt in Syria.

Abraham was born in Syria and there was never a city named ur, but ur was the fire of the Kasdim that God delivered Abraham from, and in which his brother, Haran, died because his father, Terah, lied to Nimrod to save his own skin, and Haran and Abraham were cast into the kiln fires outside the city. Haran died in the fire because he did not believe in the LORD God of Abraham, who delivered Abraham from the fire. But you will have to go read that in the real "Book of the Upright" aka, the history Book of Jasher". The real one, not the fakes.
Deu 26:5
And thou shalt speak and say before the LORD thy God, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous:"

Jacob, is confessed before the LORD as a "Syrian" because Abraham was a Syrian, by location of his birth. Damascus is the capitol city of Syria. Nimrod was king of Shinar. The first and main city in Shinar was Damascus, IMHO, for it is oldest...
ok, sounds convincing. I dont' have time to investigate all the leads, but it seems you have done your homework. My archaological find simply said 'it was a tradition after the tower of babel.' So it was not like saying it was there for sure, just a ziggurate. But anyway, thanks for the historical background.
 
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the atmospheric layer is hight up to about 100km and it is known that breathing is impossible out of that layer;

Now, the Bible tells us in Genesis 11:4-7

"4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
"
5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Here, humans decided to build a tower whose top reaches heaven; my questions are:
-could that building have reached at least 100km height?
-we know that after 100km breathing becomes difficult, could those men have reached their goal of reaching heaven?
-we also know about the universe and others planets made by God, this make us believe that heaven is far above 100km as must planets are separated by thousands or millions km....how could have these men reached heaven with brick building? can brick walls stand above 100km?
-why did the Lord react that way? He who knows everything?

You need to re-read Genesis 1 Gods creation in Genesis 1 is not what science states it is. One is lying either the Bible or science.
 
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