The Olivet Discourse

According to Bible Hub, this is the timeline for Acts: Acts Bible Timeline

....which would mean that Peter was still observing the dietary restrictions of the Law at this point (7 years after the Cross):

mkgal1 said:

Galatians 3:24 - Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith.​

Written by the apostle Paul about 20-30 years after the Cross.

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The context of the verse is found below.

The law was the "schoolmaster" of Paul's people from a time period of 430 years "after" the promise made to Abraham "until" the seed (Christ) could come to whom the promise was made.


Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gal 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Gal 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal 3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Gal 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


Based on Colossians 2:16-17, nobody alive today has ever broken the 4th commandment.

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keras said:

The Law and the Old Covenant

On the cross of Jesus, for both Jews and Gentiles 1, the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law was abolished, 2 disannulled, 3 rendered obsolete, 4 taken away and replaced, 5 by the better hope, 6 the better covenant, 7 the 2nd covenant, 8 of Jesus' New Covenant law, 9 so that the law was changed. 10

All believers, both Jews and Gentiles, of all times, are delivered from the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law and shouldn't keep it, 11 or have any desire to keep it. 12 Believers keep the spirit of the Old Covenant Mosaic law, 13 by loving others, 14 and by doing to others as they would have others do to them. 15

The New Covenant is a new law, 16 consisting of Jesus' New Testament commandments, 17 such as those he gave in the Sermon on the Mount, 18 and in the epistles of Paul the apostle. 19 These commandments exceed in righteousness the abolished letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law. 20 So there's no reason why any believer should ever want to go back under the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law. 21 It was just a temporary schoolmaster, 22 a temporary shadow, 23 which God set up because of sins long after he had set up the original promise of the Abrahamic Covenant, and long before he brought that promise to fulfilment in Jesus' New Covenant. 24

The letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law has been made obsolete by the New Covenant. 25 For example, the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law required an Aaronic priesthood, 26 whereas the New Covenant replaced the Aaronic priesthood with the Melchisedechian priesthood. 27 Also, the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law required animal sacrifices, 28 whereas the New Covenant replaced those with the one-time sacrifice of Jesus. 29

The letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law is the Hagar to the New Covenant's Sarah, 30 so that those people, whether Jews or Gentiles, who try to keep the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law are like Ishmael, while those people, whether Jews or Gentiles, who keep the New Covenant are like Isaac. 31

The letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (including the letter of the 10 commandments), written and engraved in stones, 32 was the ministration of death and condemnation. 33 For example, 34 and contrast these with the New Covenant. 35 The letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law has been done away, 36 and abolished. 37 But it's still able to spiritually blind some people as with a veil from beholding Jesus, 38 whereas the New Covenant is the ministration of the spirit and righteousness, 39 which remains, 40 and which permits believers to remove the veil and to behold Jesus. 41

But a mistaken spirit of Pharisaism can still sometimes deceive even Christians into thinking that they must keep the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law in order to be saved, 42 or in order to become perfect. 43 This is a false, cursed gospel. 44 For if any believers are keeping any part of the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law, thinking that they must do so in order to be saved, or in order to become perfect, then Jesus will profit them nothing; they have fallen from grace. 45


1/ John 11:51-52…Caiphas prophesied that Jesus would die for all the children of God.

2/ Ephesians 2:15-16 for He annulled the Law, creating a single new humanity in Himself.

2/ Colossians 2:14 He cancelled the Law with its legal demands, nailing it to the Cross.

3/ Hebrews 7:18 The earlier rules are repealed as ineffective and useless.

4/ Galatians 3:13 Christ bought us freedom from the curse of the Law, for all mankind.

4/ Hebrews 8:13 The New Covenant makes the Old obsolete.

5/ Hebrews 10:9 Jesus abolished the former to establish the latter.

6/ Hebrews 7:19 The Law brought nothing to perfection, now we have a better hope…

7/ Hebrews 7:22 God’s oath shows how superior is the Covenant that Jesus guarantees.

7/ Hebrews 8:10 In the latter days, I shall set My Laws in their hearts…

8/ Hebrews 8:7 The second Covenant is superior to, and replaces the first Covenant.

9/ John 1:17 The Law was given through Moses, but grace and truth come from Jesus.

9/ Matthew 26:28 This is My blood of the Covenant, shed for many to forgive sins.

10/ Hebrews 7:12 A change of the priesthood must mean a change of Law.

11/ Romans 7:6… we are released from the old Law, to serve God in the spirit.

11/ 2 Cor. 3:6 The written Law condemns to death, but Spirit gives life.

12/ Galatians 5:4 When you seek to be justified by Law, you are cut off from Grace.

12/ Galatians 3:4 No one is justified by the old Law, only by faith can anyone gain life.

13/ Romans 7:6 We serve God in a new way, the way of the spirit.

14/ Romans 13:7-10 The Commandments are summed up in one rule: Love your neighbour.

15/ Matthew 7:12 Treat others as you would have them treat you, that is all the Law.

16/ Hebrews 10:1 The old Law is but a shadow of a better one to come.

17/ John 14:15 If you love Me, you will obey My commands.

18/ Matthew 5:21-48…there must be no limit to your goodness…

19/ 1 Cor. 13:13 Three things last forever: Faith, hope and love, the greatest is love.

20/ Matthew 5:20 Unless you do better than the Pharisees, you will not enter the Kingdom.

21/ Galatians 3:2 Did you receive the spirit by the Law or by the Gospel message?

22/ Galatians 3:24 The Law was enforced until Christ, now we are justified through faith.

23/ Col. 2:17 It was but a shadow of greater things, the reality is Christ.

24/ Galatians 3:19 The Law was an interim measure, pending the arrival of the promised One.

24/ Isaiah 59:21… My Covenant which I will make with My people: My spirit will rest on them.

24/ Jeremiah 31:31-34 The days are coming; I shall set My Laws within My people’s hearts.

25/ Hebrews 8:13 He has pronounced the first one obsolete, it must be replaced.

26/ Exodus 30:30 Consecrate Aaron and his sons to be My priests.

27/ Hebrews 7:11-28 Perfection was not attained by the Aaronic priesthood, because death removes them. By God’s oath, Jesus is high priest forever.

28/ Leviticus 23:19 You are to prepare a he-goat and two sheep as an offering.

29/ Hebrews 10:5-7 Jesus came and offered His body as the final sacrifice.

30/ Galatians 4:23-31…the old Covenant is like Hagar; born onto slavery, now you my friends, are like Isaac, the children of God’s promise.

31/ Galatians 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ set us free, stand firm in your faith and refuse to submit again to the yoke of slavery.

32/ Deut. 27:8 Inscribe onto stones all the words of the Law…

33/ 2 Cor. 3:7 The Covenant that brought death, came in a glory that soon faded.

34/ Numbers 15:32-36 A man gathered sticks on the Sabbath, he was stoned to death.

35/ Matthew 12:6-8…Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. It is mercy I require, not sacrifice.

36/ 2 Cor. 3:11 The old Law fades away, greater is the glory of what endures!

37/ 2 Cor. 3:14b… only in Christ is the old Covenant lifted.

38/ 2 Cor. 3:15 To this day, a veil lies over the mind of those who follow the old Law.

39/ 2 Cor. 3:9 If glory accompanied the ministry that brought death, how much greater must be the glory of the Covenant the brings acquittal!

40/ 2 Cor. 5:1 We know that when we die, we will possess eternal life.

41/ 2 Cor. 3:16-17 Whoever turns to the Spirit of the Lord, the veil is removed.

41/ Ephesians 2:18 For through Jesus, we have access to the Father in the one Spirit.

41/ Col. 3:17 Let your every word and action be to the glory of Jesus…

42/ Acts 15:5…these Gentiles must keep the Law of Moses.

43/ Galatians 3:3-9 Can you be so stupid? You now have the Gospel and its promised blessings, keep your faith, as Abraham did.

44/ Galatians 1:9 I warn you: do not preach any other Gospel, cursed be anything else.

45/ Galatians 5:2-4 If you get circumcised in the Law, Christ will benefit you no more. When you seek to be justified by way of the Law, you have put yourself outside God’s grace.
Ref: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged.

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So why are you pushing to reintroduce this worthless abolished system in the future? It doesn't make any sense.

God will not demand anymore sacrifices. Why?

Because His Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, gave us Himself as the spotless sacrifice.

BABerean2 said:

Based on Colossians 2:16-17, nobody alive today has ever broken the 4th commandment.

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That isn't the issue.

Chris had posted what I believe you are in agreement with - that the Mosaic Law had completely been removed in 30 AD.

I believe, however, that the Law was like training wheels to the Jewish believers. As it states in Galatians, it was the schoolmaster (tutor) to bring them to faith. This doesn't happen overnight....it was a process (as we can see clearly in especially the recorded life of Peter). IMO.....this demonstrates God's gracious mercy and understanding of humanity. Once the destruction of 70 AD occurred, however, and the Law was impossible to keep....and there was no confusion over who the True High Priest is....then the obsolete Law had truly vanished....disappeared...as promised it would in Hebrews (written around 67-68AD)

BABerean2 said:

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

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I don't see any NT passage that speaks of the Law being "over" in 30 AD. Instead, I see passages like this that refer to its usefulness - to bring ancient Jews to faith - until it had disappeared. Here...the schoolmaster has served its purpose once faith had come....not by 30 AD.

parousia70 said:

Well then, you need an explanation, for Why James said Jesus' coming was at that time "near and at the door" when you yourself admit James knew full well His coming could NOT BE near and at the door before certain signs came to pass...
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What you're saying there doesn't even make sense, and certainly is not following the Scriptures.

Revelation 1 showed that Jesus' coming was still 'near' then also, so what. That still didn';t reveal His coming was going to happen in their day, otherwise He wouldn't have given them all those Revelation signs to be watching. And the fact that He told John to give His Revelation to the seven Churches, and linked those Messages all the way to the day of His 2nd coming, that reveals His Revelation is for His Church continually, until He literally returns as written in Acts 1 and 1 Thessalonians 4 and Zechariah 14.

Hey Keras.. thanks. Always blessed by what you write. May not agree praise GOD but.. blessed. Hard to say anything when you say "The timing given in the Bible tells us Jesus will Return in about 10-20 years."

No the bible does not say hint. Christ told of of those times and seasons only the Father knows. Truth is you personally believe its 10-20 years

Then in Matt 24. There was no Christians no Church. So just who was Christ talking to? What we know is when the word of God has reached the world.. then the end will come. I personally believe it has reached the world.

mkgal1 said:

I don't see any NT passage that speaks of the Law being "over" in 30 AD. Instead, I see passages like this that refer to its usefulness - to bring ancient Jews to faith - until it had disappeared. Here...the schoolmaster has served its purpose once faith had come....not by 30 AD.

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Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.


Heb 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
Heb 12:19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
Heb 12:20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
Heb 12:21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

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BABerean2 said:

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

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"Being changed ".....in the process...not past tense (and this was written after 30 AD, but before 70 AD).

mkgal1 said:

"Being changed ".....in the process...not past tense (and this was written after 30 AD, but before 70 AD).

2 Corinthians 3:11 - For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.​

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Why did you ignore Hebrews 12:18?

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BABerean2 said:

Why did you ignore Hebrews 12:18?

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I'm not ignoring v. 18. There's a contrast being made between the two priesthoods...and although Jesus' priesthood had been introduced....the Levitical priesthood still remained.

Why are you not addressing 2 Corinthians 3:11?

mkgal1 said:

I'm not ignoring v. 18. There's a contrast being made between the two priesthoods...and, although Jesus' priesthood had been introduced....the Levitical priesthood still remained.

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Where did you get that? It was made obsolete. There cannot be 2 covenants ongoing at the one time. That is absurd! One superseded the other. There cannot be 2 competing priesthoods. One replaced the other.

The book of Hebrews destroys any notion of the continuation of the old covenant priests. It is quite inconceivable that this defunct priesthood would be needed after the commencement of God's true eternal priesthood. Hebrews 7:19 tells us: “the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.” Christ owns the only priestly office that God recognises for all eternity. Hebrews 7:22 confirms, “By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.” For “he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises” (Hebrews 8:6).

Remember, Hebrews was written in-between the cross and AD70!

We have entered into a new divine arrangement that supersedes the shadow, type and figure. Man has one true heavenly high priest and requires none other. For you to argue for two competing priesthood underlines the dangers of your teaching.

Hebrews 7:11-12 tells us, “If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.”

The priesthood has been changed; and having been changed there was a change triggered in the law (“there is made of necessity a change also of the law”). Whilst the written law is still active, the whole old covenant ceremonial system was superseded by a new better covenant.

The Greek word for “changed” here is metatithemi which actually means transferred or exchanged. This shows that old temporal imperfect priesthood has been exchanged for the new perfect eternal priesthood in Christ. The deficient shadow and type has been replaced by Israel’s eternal high priest the Messiah and will never again be changed, undone or rivaled by a parallel priesthood. It is an eternal transfer of influence. Christ will not (or cannot) share this office with another, neither can He hand the baton over to others. He holds it firm and alone as of right and by way of an everlasting oath. Those that purport to steal this sacred title enter into the dangerous arena of heresy.

The problem with the Old Testament priestly administration was: it was inadequate. It involved men who by nature were prone to sin and who therefore fell short of what God required of them. Time after time, the high priest failed in God’s requirements through sin or compromise and consequently God judged the whole nation. Corruption eventually took a hold of the office and brought it into complete disrepute. This opened the door to idol worship and apostasy. What is more, with the blight of sin in man came death. This meant the office was continually passed from one to another.

Hebrews 7:15 clearly tells us of this new covenant period: “there ariseth another priest” – “even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec” (Hebrews 6:20). This priest was an eternal priest ministering on behalf of the people of God.

Whilst there were many priests in the nation of Israel under the old covenant there was only ever one high priest at any one time. The office was passed on upon death from one high priest to another. Hebrews 7:21-24 says, speaking of Christ, “Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.”

The word interpreted “unchangeable” here is very significant. It comes from the Greek word aparabatos, which simply means non-transferable. It is a legal word. For example, it relates to a judge laying down a decision that is unalterable and non-transferable. It also describes something which belongs to one person and cannot be transferred to anyone else. This tells us, no one else can hold the Melchizedek priesthood. Christ continues alone in this role, having an unchangeable non-transferable priestly office. Unlike the old covenant priesthood, Christ has no successors in this office. This priesthood cannot pass from one to another, it is not transmissible. No other can appropriate this title or share in the function of the position, Christ alone holds that sacred high priestly office. Christ is the only real and perfect High Priest. He is the ultimate and final high priest of the redeemed of God.

Hebrews 7:16 tells us that Christ “is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.”

The whole context here is the removal and the replacement of the old covenant priesthood, the writer of the Hebrews presents Christ as heavens eternal replacement. What is more, we can see that this priesthood cannot pass from one to another, it is not transferrable. No other can appropriate this title or share in the function of the position, Christ alone holds that sacred high priestly office. Christ is the only real and perfect high priest today. He is the ultimate and final High Priest of the redeemed of God.

Hebrews 7:26-28 confirms this, telling us that Christ “For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; Who needeth needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.”

The Levitical priesthood had to be replaced because it was inadequate and temporal. The priests themselves were blighted with sin, therefore they died. The old covenant priesthood was simply a weak figure of the eternal priesthood that was to come. Hebrews 7 confirms: those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s” (v 27) and “they were not suffered to continue by reason of death” (v 23).

Christ’s “perfect” priesthood cannot be compared to the faulty old covenant priesthood with all its obvious limitations. It is final, eternal and unchanging. There is no end to the Lord’s hold on this office. When Christ ascended to the right hand of majesty on high He did so as man’s final perfect high priest. He was the substance and fulfilment of the Old Testament high priestly order who served as the temporal shadow of the coming Messiah. He met every requirement demanded of God to reconcile the sinner unto God.

Hebrews 8:3-8: “For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law … But now hath He [Christ] obtained a more excellent ministry (than the priests that made imperfect sacrifices), by how much also He is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.”

The removal of the faulty old covenant is here connected to the replacement of the old covenant priesthood. The two are inextricably tied together. The one true eternal high priest has perfected the last sacrifice for sin, and now sits in heaven interceding for His elect. Thus He fulfils the two-fold duty of the priest (making atonement for sin, and interceding on the people’s behalf).

Hebrews 10:19-21 says, “Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; And having an high priest over the house of God.”

The old imperfect sacrifices made by the representative priests in the Old Covenant were superseded at the cross by the one final satisfactory sacrifice by the one true eternal priest – the Lord Jesus Christ.

sovereigngrace said:

We have entered into a new divine arrangement that supersedes the shadow, type and figure.

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I'm certainly not arguing against that. My point is that it wasn't sudden (in 30 AD).....there was a period of grace....to transition.

sovereigngrace said:

Where did you get that? It was made obsolete. There cannot be 2 covenants ongoing at the one time. That is absurd! One superseded the other. There cannot be 2 competing priesthoods. One replaced the other.

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So you believe the Levitical priesthood ended in 30 AD?

Obsolete is one thing.......vanished/disappeared is something else.

mkgal1 said:

I'm not ignoring v. 18. There's a contrast being made between the two priesthoods...and although Jesus' priesthood had been introduced....the Levitical priesthood still remained.

Why are you not addressing 2 Corinthians 3:11?

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I will be glad to address it.

Verse 11 is found in a passage contrasting the two covenants.

This contrast starts in verses 6, and 7.

2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
2Co 3:8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?
2Co 3:9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory.
2Co 3:10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels.
2Co 3:11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.

Verse 11 refers back to verses 6, and 7.
Therefore, any unbiased reader should see that what remains must be the new covenant.


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BABerean2 said:

2Co 3:11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.

Verse 11 refers back to verses 6, and 7.
Therefore, any unbiased reader should see that what remains must be the new covenant.

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I agree that "what remains" is the new covenant, but that isn't being questioned. What I am pointing out is the "what is passing away" part. Any unbiased reader should see that as the Old Covenant/Levitical priesthood/Temple system. That isn't written in the past tense or as completed. This was written about 25 years after the Cross.

The Old Covenant was still functioning as a "schoolmaster " that led the Ancient Jews to faith. Hebrews informs us that the way into the presence of God was not freely open as long as the Tabernacle and the system it represented were still in use (and they were....until 70 AD).