LDS Mormon Under Garment Questions

I think we've all explained it before that simply bandying them about isn't seen as conducive to proper discourse, but that being said:

The sum total of the above questions indicates a severe lack of understanding.

Functionally, the temple garments are akin to the clerical vestments that the clergy of other denominations wear. They're worn *under* regular clothing because the church uses a lay ministry system of such nature that at any time, any place, and any circumstance those who hold the priesthood authority may be called upon to perform their duties (like, say, when you're out doing errands and you get a text message saying that someone's sick & needs your help).

The garments in particular are reminders of the ordinances and promises of the temple, and so are for those who have specifically had their endowments. As one can imagine, a person parading around in these for shock or sensation, especially someone who is not a member of the church, would not be received all that warmly. And doing what that one street preacher did by going up to Temple Square and wiping his posterior with a set is pretty much regarded as beyond the pale; at that point, the person doing so might as well accept that they're doing Satan's work rather than God's for all of the people they will turn against their version of Christianity.

Most garments are meant to withstand modern washers and dryers, but for obvious reasons they should not be put out on a line to dry. They should also not be marked upon, and to put it simply there should not be any need to as a person who would deliberately steal another's garments has matters they need to speak to God about.

Ironhold said:

Functionally, the temple garments are akin to the clerical vestments that the clergy of other denominations wear. They're worn *under* regular clothing because the church uses a lay ministry system of such nature that at any time, any place, and any circumstance those who hold the priesthood authority may be called upon to perform their duties (like, say, when you're out doing errands and you get a text message saying that someone's sick & needs your help).

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Does Mormonism have female lay ministers? Just curious, since there's a women's set too. (I did read the paragraph below about this specific style/set being related to the temple, so I understand why there would be a pair for women in that context. Just curious about this 'priesthood' explanation, as I haven't heard it before.)

dzheremi said:

Does Mormonism have female lay ministers? Just curious, since there's a women's set too. (I did read the paragraph below about this specific style/set being related to the temple, so I understand why there would be a pair for women in that context. Just curious about this 'priesthood' explanation, as I haven't heard it before.)

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While the church does not have female lay ministers in the traditional sense, it does have the Relief Society, which IIRC holds record as the oldest continuous women's aid society in the United States.

The Relief Society takes the lead in handling situations involving physical welfare, such as ensuring food, clothing, and other basics of life. They're the ones who are on the front lines of the church's welfare system, which is a significant responsibility in its own right.

drstevej said:

[1] What would happen if I as a non Mormon wore these?
[2] When you wash them do you use a special detergent? Can you wash them with other (non sacred) clothes?
[3] Can you write your name on them so you know you are putting your garments on (rather than a same size room mate's for example)
[4] Are these worn when doing door to door witnessing?

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My Mormon mother of 93 years was buried in one of these garments, even though she realized the True Christ just before the end in a wonderful Blessing from God that I was a part of. She truly accepted the True Christ about a week before she passed on.

And as her only son I was glad I was not part of dressing her body as my very Mormon sisters insisted on putting this garment onto her body. It would have been a "turf war" if I had insisted that she not be dressed in that manner. We had her services in her former Mormon ward and I was allowed to deliver the Eulogy---mostly about the the Christ of the Bible.

Jamesone5 said:

My Mormon mother of 93 years was buried in one of these garments, even though she realized the True Christ just before the end in a wonderful Blessing from God that I was a part of. She truly accepted the True Christ about a week before she passed on.

And as her only son I was glad I was not part of dressing her body as my very Mormon sisters insisted on putting this garment onto her body. It would have been a "turf war" if I had insisted that she not be dressed in that manner. We had her services in her former Mormon ward and I was allowed to deliver the Eulogy---mostly about the the Christ of the Bible.

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They think that we don't know the godhead they know. So they most likely weren't aware that you were referring to the REAL Christ.

My Mormon sister's funeral was HORRIBLE. She never had temple garments. Her creepy husband asked a woman we all knew to speak at her funeral. My sister never went to the temple, never had temple garments and didn't want them. The service wasn't spiritual in any way. Not a typical Mormon funeral and no attempt to convert any of us. The woman that her husband chose to speak loved to tell me (when I was Mormon and afterwards) that my sister wasn't a good wife. She told me that after the funeral, too. I found her to be very judgmental and lacking in kindness. She asked for my address but I didn't give it to her. Why would I?

Jamesone5 said:

My Mormon mother of 93 years was buried in one of these garments, even though she realized the True Christ just before the end in a wonderful Blessing from God that I was a part of. She truly accepted the True Christ about a week before she passed on.

And as her only son I was glad I was not part of dressing her body as my very Mormon sisters insisted on putting this garment onto her body. It would have been a "turf war" if I had insisted that she not be dressed in that manner. We had her services in her former Mormon ward and I was allowed to deliver the Eulogy---mostly about the the Christ of the Bible.

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How did you get permission to do that? Was your name not removed from their records? I was told in the excommunication letter that I couldn't wear my temple garments and could not speak in their church! What a disgusting letter! I never had any temple garments. They apparently didn't even know who I was!

Phoebe Ann said:

How did you get permission to do that? Was your name not removed from their records? I was told in the excommunication letter that I couldn't wear my temple garments and could not speak in their church! What a disgusting letter! I never had any temple garments. They apparently didn't even know who I was!

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She passed away in 2012 and yes, my name was not taken off the Rolls at that time, even though I had sent them two formal letters in the past to have my name taken off the Rolls. As there are lot of inactive Mormons, I was just one more who was padding their Rolls. But, over the years, I realized Christ does not answer to man's membership lists.

The ward had a good bishop at that time, or one who I respected as far as the way he handled things. He knew I had been a Member of another Church for many years. But he allowed me to speak from the pulpit after assuring him that I would not speak of anything doctrinally problematic and more or less got my script approved beforehand. He even introduced me as Brother-------{my name}. Helped that I insisted I be allowed to speak as I was my mom's only son.

3 years ago, another former bishop came by my house and he asked me if I wanted to sign a simple form [which I did] and I finally got a letter from the Church telling me my name had been taken off the Rolls. Of course, in this letter were the words about rejoining if I so desired.

Jamesone5 said:

She passed away in 2012 and yes, my name was not taken off the Rolls at that time, even though I had sent them two formal letters in the past to have my name taken off the Rolls. As there are lot of inactive Mormons, I was just one more who was padding their Rolls. But, over the years, I realized Christ does not answer to man's membership lists.

The ward had a good bishop at that time, or one who I respected as far as the way he handled things. He knew I had been a Member of another Church for many years. But he allowed me to speak from the pulpit after assuring him that I would not speak of anything doctrinally problematic and more or less got my script approved beforehand. He even introduced me as Brother-------{my name}. Helped that I insisted I be allowed to speak as I was my mom's only son.

3 years ago, another former bishop came by my house and he asked me if I wanted to sign a simple form [which I did] and I finally got a letter from the Church telling me my name had been taken off the Rolls. Of course, in this letter were the words about rejoining if I so desired.

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Amazing.

I left before a person could have his/her name removed except through excommunication.

Phoebe Ann said:

Amazing.

I left before a person could have his/her name removed except through excommunication.

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The Church has had to take a softer stance [as I have noticed] to try to make it look "more Christian". I live in a town, which is probably 40% Mormon and people have to somewhat get along. You work alongside Mormons, you share the burdens with Mormons and I have not heard of anyone being formally excommunicated for a few years, now. Or if so, it is done somewhat quietly. It really is all about numbers and I would not wager a guess to how many inactive Mormons there are but I imagine those numbers would be quite large.

And, "the Mormon underwear" is still very much around--- to tie into the OP. My older sister was cremated after she died [also in 2012] and my younger sisters dressed her in those, prior to cremation. It is just a symbol, nothing more as there wasn't even a viewing. But, I also got a chance to speak at her funeral-----also because my name was not taken off the rolls--yet.

I guess I will add that on this Forum is not an example of the real world, as it is only about doctrine. I would say that most Mormons on here that I probably could get along with them if we avoided discussing doctrine.

Jamesone5 said:

The Church has had to take a softer stance [as I have noticed] to try to make it look "more Christian". I live in a town, which is probably 40% Mormon and people have to somewhat get along. You work alongside Mormons, you share the burdens with Mormons and I have not heard of anyone being formally excommunicated for a few years, now. Or if so, it is done somewhat quietly. It really is all about numbers and I would not wager a guess to how many inactive Mormons there are but I imagine those numbers would be quite large.

And, "the Mormon underwear" is still very much around--- to tie into the OP. My older sister was cremated after she died [also in 2012] and my younger sisters dressed her in those, prior to cremation. It is just a symbol, nothing more as there wasn't even a viewing. But, I also got a chance to speak at her funeral-----also because my name was not taken off the rolls--yet.

I guess I will add that on this Forum is not an example of the real world, as it is only about doctrine. I would say that most Mormons on here that I probably could get along with them if we avoided discussing doctrine.

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I suspect we could get along even as we discuss doctrine. We would just kindly have to agree to disagree and to to the next topic.

drstevej said:

[1] What would happen if I as a non Mormon wore these?
[2] When you wash them do you use a special detergent? Can you wash them with other (non sacred) clothes?
[3] Can you write your name on them so you know you are putting your garments on (rather than a same size room mate's for example)
[4] Are these worn when doing door to door witnessing?

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Having been around Mormons for most of my life and although when I was a Mormon I did not wear the Mormon undergarments'---I can say with certainty that it is all based on superstition.

They think these garments are going to protect them from satan and the temptations he throws at them. In reality those who wear them are hardly protected as they sometimes fall into sin as well as those who do not wear them.

Hardly something that is Promised with the armor of God.