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Trump's Peace Plan that is being unveiled is called Peace to Prosperity https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Peace-to-Prosperity-0120.pdf

Of course, this ought to call to mind 1 Thessalonians 5:3 'when they say, 'peace and safety' then sudden destruction', which is Paul's reference to Deuteronomy 29:18-20
18 Beware lest there be among you a man or woman or clan or tribe whose heart is turning away today from the Lord our God to go and serve the gods of those nations. Beware lest there be among you a root bearing poisonous and bitter fruit, 19 one who, when he hears the words of this sworn covenant, blesses himself in his heart, saying, ‘I shall be safe, though I walk in the stubbornness of my heart.’ This will lead to the sweeping away of moist and dry alike. 20The Lord will not be willing to forgive him, but rather the anger of the Lord and his jealousy will smoke against that man, and the curses written in this book will settle upon him, and the Lord will blot out his name from under heaven.​

'safe' which is the Hebrew for 'shalom' which means 'peace & a feeling of security (materially or financially)'. Or in other words, peace and prosperity. This leads to 'sudden destruction'. That is the 'flood' of Revelation 12:15, the people of the prince to come coming to corrupt/ destroy the 'city' which means spiritual Jerusalem & literal Jerusalem & literal Judea - which is why you are about to see Judea being annexed (the 'Judea' of Matthew 24:15-16/ Judea means 'Judah', 'city', 'Jerusalem', and the 'woman' as per Lamentations 1). The 'flood' is a reference to the 150 days of Genesis 7:24 before the 'city' is 'destroyed' (Daniel 9:26) (that's why there is 5 months mentioned in the 5th Trumpet, that is the 'flood' coming to destroy the 'sanctuary'. 5 months to 'destroy' the city, 5 months to 'destroy' the sanctuary'.

With that said, I'd like to switch gears to Daniel 9's 70 weeks prophecy - which people generally only understand in terms of a verse 27 'last week' of this. But all of the 70 weeks is future - because the 'Peace to Prosperity' plan appears to fulfill Daniel 9:24-27.

24 Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city —
to bring the rebellion to an end, to put a stop to sin,
to wipe away iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness,
to seal up vision and prophet

[note that H5030 'wanabi' is 'prophet' not 'prophecy']
and to anoint the most holy.
[note that 'most holy' could mean a person or place]
25 Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree
to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until an anointed one, the 'nagid' [leader, ruler, prince]
will be seven weeks and 62 weeks. It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench,
but in difficult times.
26 After those 62 weeks the anointed one will be cut off and will have nothing.
The people of the coming prince will destroy the city and the sanctuary.
Its end will come with a flood, and until the end there will be war;
desolations are decreed.
27 He will make a firm covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week
he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering. And the abomination of desolation
will be on a wing of the temple until the decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator.”

When we look at the Peace to Prosperity plan, we see that it is basically a plan for a massive construction project in Israel/ Jerusalem. In it:
  • 'road' is mentioned 11 times
  • 'vision' is mentioned 121 times
  • 'Jerusalem' is mentioned 70 times
  • 'border' is mentioned 38 times
  • 'build' is mentioned 49 times
The subtitle of the plan is: A Vision to Improve the Lives of the Palestinian and Israeli People.

In Daniel 9:24, it is the 'vision' that is being sealed. The plan itself is the 'decree'/ 'command' to rebuild Jerusalem (Daniel 9:25). 'Build' is mentioned 49 times. 'Roads'/ 'streets' are being built. 'Trenches' are part of the construction process. (It is translated as 'wall', also, which would correlate to the 'borders' mentioned in the plan.

Again, this is a massive construction project that will take years. (there actually is a '7 year plan' in it: which is related to Palestinian infrastructure being built to support 5G Internet of all things. But I don't take this particular aspect as too important.) Money is going to pour into the area - which probably has a lot to do with the 'trampling of the outer court' in Revelation 11:1-4.

lots more to this later
 

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I brought up the Peace to Prosperity Plan of the Trump Administration in the thread; News from the holy Land.
This Plan is soon to commence its provisions with the annexation of large areas of the West Bank and the Jordan valley. We already know what the Palestinian and all the Islamic peoples reaction to this move will be. To them, it basically means a declaration of war.

I suppose we cannot expect the general population of the Western nations to get particularly excited about this prospect. But we Christian Bible believers should be aware and prepared for what the Lord has said He will do when the Ishmaelite peoples [now the Islamic peoples] try to attack Israel. Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Psalms 7:12-16, Psalms 11:4-6, Revelation 6:12-17, +
All the world will be affected by this event and we need to know what our destiny is as the Lords people.
 
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I brought up the Peace to Prosperity Plan of the Trump Administration in the thread; News from the holy Land.
This Plan is soon to commence its provisions with the annexation of large areas of the West Bank and the Jordan valley. We already know what the Palestinian and all the Islamic peoples reaction to this move will be. To them, it basically means a declaration of war.

I suppose we cannot expect the general population of the Western nations to get particularly excited about this prospect. But we Christian Bible believers should be aware and prepared for what the Lord has said He will do when the Ishmaelite peoples [now the Islamic peoples] try to attack Israel. Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Psalms 7:12-16, Psalms 11:4-6, Revelation 6:12-17, +
All the world will be affected by this event and we need to know what our destiny is as the Lords people.

I know, I just didn't want to derail your thread, which seems to be more news oriented.

My point here is what you bring up: at the onset of the confirmation, this starts the 'flood', the army of 'locusts' that destroy the 'city' - and is the lead in to the 6th Seal as you point out.

Because this 'decree to rebuild Jerusalem' ends with 2 people being 'anointed' (at the 7th week & after 62 weeks later): the 'prophet' is sealed which is synonymous with being 'anointed' ala 2 Corinthians 1:21-22 and the 'most holy' is anointed) there is a specific date that this would occur: dusk July 25, 2020, which is 70 weeks before dusk 24 Kislev of 2021 (24 Kislev being the date that the 2 witnesses / 2 anointed ones are given power in 2 Haggai 18-22.)
 
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I know, I just didn't want to derail your thread, which seems to be more news oriented.

My point here is what you bring up: at the onset of the confirmation, this starts the 'flood', the army of 'locusts' that destroy the 'city' - and is the lead in to the 6th Seal as you point out.

Because this 'decree to rebuild Jerusalem' ends with 2 people being 'anointed' (at the 7th week & after 62 weeks later): the 'prophet' is sealed which is synonymous with being 'anointed' ala 2 Corinthians 1:21-22 and the 'most holy' is anointed) there is a specific date that this would occur: dusk July 25, 2020, which is 70 weeks before dusk 24 Kislev of 2021 (24 Kislev being the date that the 2 witnesses / 2 anointed ones are given power in 2 Haggai 18-22.)
Yes, my aim with the News thread, was to get an awareness of the volatility in the Middle East.

I disagree with your idea that anything will happen on 25 July 2020.
However I do think that Iran and her proxies will try to attack Israel within a year or so. I do see 24 Kislev as a very significant date. This year it is December 10th.
 
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Yes, my aim with the News thread, was to get an awareness of the volatility in the Middle East.

I disagree with your idea that anything will happen on 25 July 2020.
However I do think that Iran and her proxies will try to attack Israel within a year or so. I do see 24 Kislev as a very significant date. This year it is December 10th.

I'm not surprised that you disagree about dusk July 25. I know that people think that my approach is overly 'mechanistic', I suppose. My POV is predicated upon Satan orchestrating/ deliberately fulfilling prophecy - moreover, that Revelation reflects this Satanic counterfeiting in the way that it is constructed and deliberately worded; and so there will be a method to the madness. Just like Jesus chastised the Pharisees for not knowing that He was coming, the Antichrist has to come 'according to a knowable schedule'. It won't be arbitrary in the least.
 
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Trump's Peace Plan that is being unveiled is called Peace to Prosperity
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One thing is for certain regarding the Daniel 9 70 weeks prophecy, 69 weeks have already been fulfilled. The 69th week ended with Christ's crucifixion. The amount of 'sevens' in the calculation work out in years as given per the historical events down to time of Christ's crucifixion. Only the final 70th week period is still unfulfilled today.

Since U.S. Presidents have traditionally met with the Orthodox Jews, the idea of a middle east peace plan definitely is not Trump's. He is only inheriting the same plan probably formed many previous administrations ago, probably back when Israel became a nation again.

As far as that peace plan origin, it is actually honed in the nation of Israel by a certain group of orthodox Jews. The Daniel prophecy is that the vile person (the coming Antichrist) will make a "league" with a small people (i.e., small group of leaders). And that league will restore the old covenant worship in Jerusalem, and allow the building of another Jewish temple, and startup of sacrifices. The Jews in Jerusalem today already have the materials ready to build it, and they have the temple artifacts made too.

Trump isn't that "vile person" though. He is not the one who will end the league and stop sacrifices, and setup the abomination idol in the temple at Jerusalem. The Antichrist that will do that will demand to be worshipped in place of GOD. Trump is a Christian, and admits The Saviour Jesus Christ and The Father.
 
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I brought up the Peace to Prosperity Plan of the Trump Administration in the thread; News from the holy Land.
This Plan is soon to commence its provisions with the annexation of large areas of the West Bank and the Jordan valley. We already know what the Palestinian and all the Islamic peoples reaction to this move will be. To them, it basically means a declaration of war.

I suppose we cannot expect the general population of the Western nations to get particularly excited about this prospect. But we Christian Bible believers should be aware and prepared for what the Lord has said He will do when the Ishmaelite peoples [now the Islamic peoples] try to attack Israel. Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Psalms 7:12-16, Psalms 11:4-6, Revelation 6:12-17, +
All the world will be affected by this event and we need to know what our destiny is as the Lords people.
Don't necessarily disagree, but war was promised anytime moving the embassy to Jerusalem was mentioned. Trump moved it there and nothing happened...yet
 
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Don't necessarily disagree, but war was promised anytime moving the embassy to Jerusalem was mentioned. Trump moved it there and nothing happened...yet
Be assured; it WILL happen, on the Appointed Day. Habakkuk 2:3, Isaiah 24

Zephaniah 3:8 Wait for Me, says the Lord, wait for the Day when I stand up and accuse mankind. For I shall pour out My wrath upon nations and kingdoms, in My burning anger: the whole earth will be devastated by fire.

Zephaniah 1:14-18 The great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath is near and coming fast. That Day will be a Day of distress and torment, a Day of devastation amid thick darkness. A Day of thunder and destruction against military fortifications and cities. the Lord will bring terrible distress upon the people, they won’t know which way to turn as they are punished for their sins against Me. Their blood and guts will be spilled out like filth over the ground. Neither their treasure nor their idols will be able to save them on the sudden and shocking Day of the Lord’s fiery anger. All the Land will be burned and devastated. Ezekiel 20:46-48

Zephaniah 2:1-3 Prepare yourselves, you undesirable nation, be humble before you disappear like chaff, before the burning anger of the Lord comes upon you. Seek righteousness; seek humility, all you people in the Land who obey God’s Laws and it may be that you will find shelter on the Day of the Lord’s anger.

Zephaniah 2:4-7 Gaza will be deserted, Ashkelon left in ruins. At midday all the towns of the Mediterranean coast will be cleared of inhabitants, for the Word of God is against you – land of the Philistines. I shall lay you in ruins, no one will survive. The sea coast will become a sheep grazing area belonging to the survivors of Judah, for their God will turn to them and restore their fortunes. Isaiah 14-1, Ezekiel 36:1-37

Zephaniah 2:8-10 I have noted the insults of Moab and the Ammonites, how they have reviled My people and encroached on their frontiers. For this, I swear, they will become like Sodom and Gomorrah, a place of weeds and salt pans. Those of My people who survive will inherit their land. This is retribution for their pride, because they have insulted God’s people and taken over their Land. Jeremiah 12:14, Amos 2:1-5

Zephaniah 3:11-13 On that Day, Jerusalem, I shall rid you of your proud and arrogant citizens, but I will leave a remnant, a humble people who will trust in Me. The survivors in Israel will be righteous, under My protection. Isaiah 31:5

Zephaniah 3:19-20 When the time comes and I have dealt with your oppressors, then I shall rescue the lost and gather the dispersed and bring you all to your homeland. You will win respect and renown from the other nations when I restore your fortunes before your very eyes, It is I, the Lord, who speaks. Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.


Wait for the Day; the whole earth burned and devastated. The only known way how this could happen, is by a massive Coronal Mass Ejection, a fire judgement mentioned and described over 100 times in Bible prophecy. It will be the event that ‘comes like a thief’, unexpected and shocking. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1, Revelation 6:12-17

You undesirable nation – the Israelite people: now that is, every born again Christian. It may be that those who live righteously and humbly will ‘find shelter on the Day of the Lord’s anger.’ 2 Peter 2:9

Philistines and Moab and Ammon – Palestinians and Jordanians. Amos 1:6-8 & 13-14, Ezekiel 21:28-1

leave a remnant in Jerusalem, under My protection – Isaiah 4:3, Isaiah 29:1-4, Romans 9:27

rescue the lost....bring you home – The great gathering of all the faithful Christian peoples, prophesied more than 40 times, to happen soon after this forthcoming, worldwide fire judgement. They will live in the promised Land, under God’s protection and when the Anti Christ comes to Jerusalem, Daniel 11:31-32, Revelation 13:7, they are taken to a place of safety until the Return of Jesus.
 
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