God as much of a woman as a man

GaveMeJoy said:

Disclaimer to male readers: I am a straight and manly 6 foot 200 pound man, who is red blooded and I am not a progressive or “feminist” or liberal. It’s ok to keep reading and not just dismiss it because you think I’m a woman.

God is a spirit being. God had no gender or physical representation. While Jesus manifested as a male human, he existed as a member of the triune God for eternity before creation.
While it can be argued Jesus is entirely male, there is no scriptural defense for the position that God is male in any way.


The scriptures use the male pronoun to refer to God by default, through translation, and because the scriptures were written in patriarchal societies where the male pronoun would be used for a deity.

As Goddess is a spirit and gender free, she does not have a gender.

The previous sentence sounds weird and is inaccurate. It also doesn’t use common scriptural male terms for God so it feels uncomfortable. However, it is equally as inaccurate as the following sentence:

As God is a spirit and gender free he does not have a gender.

God is not male. It’s OK to admit it, it won’t make you turn blue.

but seriously, where am I wrong, any scripture to demonstrate God is male? Do you have a problem with my perspective here shared (other than my Lame jokes) or is it acceptable theologically.

thanks! I’m mostly trying this out because I want to talk to my pastor about it but I don’t want to miss anything important. Thanks!

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I didn't read all the other replies. I just want to say I agree with you. God doesn't have a gender. When someone asked Jesus "whose wife will she be", His answer leads me to believe we won't either. Gender is physical; animal.
Sorry I'm not including verses, I had a stroke and typing is difficult.

Sparagmos said:

I don’t know that Eve was an actual person, but I believe human beings evolved. What you are describing sounds like magic, and I’ve never seen any evidence of magic, but people often use magic to explain things they don’t understand.

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Evolution doesn't sound like magic?

Dkh587 said:

God doesn’t reproduce the way humans do, but he does reproduce. He has sons/children in he heavenly realm. Psalm 82

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Wow! Way to misinterpret Scripture.

prodromos said:

Wow! Way to misinterpret Scripture.

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There are multiple witnesses throughout scripture that show God has sons in heaven.

Dkh587 said:

There are multiple witnesses throughout scripture that show God has sons in heaven.

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I've got no idea how you can possibly reconcile that with Trinitarian theology.

GaveMeJoy said:

Thank you for respecting our sisters as equals who are also created in the image of God. I can’t even respond to those questioning that because it is offensive to me. I can’t imagine a man reading these verses and thinking “only Adam was created in God’s image.” What a sad and sexist and unloving perspective.

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I didn't do anything, but thank you for the sweet compliment!

All I'm doing is quoting Scriptures and in context.

When someone takes scripture out of context and bases their whole faith on it, that becomes heretical. Personally, as I looked through Scriptures, I didn't see it saying "God ONLY made Adam in His image," I saw that it said "man", but it also said "female."

Radagast said:

I've got no idea how you can possibly reconcile that with Trinitarian theology.

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I’ve never had trouble reconciling it.

Psalm 89:5-6

And the heavens shall praise thy wonders, O Yahweh: thy faithfulness also in the congregation of the saints.

For who in the heaven can be compared unto Yahweh? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto Yahweh?

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Job 1:6

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Yahweh, and Satan came also among them.

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Job 2:1

Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Yahweh, and Satan came also among them to present himself before Yahweh.

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Job 38:6-7

Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

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God has many sons, but only one of them is begotten.

GaveMeJoy said:

Yes they did. There is no religion or myth I can think of where the highest or most powerful god is a goddess except for gaia/Mother Earth creation myths.

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You are thinking in terms of a ranking of the gods, but there were indeed religions or cults which were built totally around some female deity, and these were prominent in earlier times. You named one yourself.

The Bible is clear that God made man in his own image. Even if the word mankind is the word used, after God said that, all He created was Adam.

Later God created Eve in the image of Adam.

Genesis 1:27, NASB: "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."

There would be no need for that semicolon and second statement if both male and female were made in the image of God. It would just say "them" to begin with.

Again, 1st Corinthians 11:7

"For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man."

Nancy Hale said:

Evolution doesn't sound like magic?

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No, it’s understood on the cellular level, and it’s been observed. When I say magic I mean something that we cannot explain the exact process for, the micro-mechanics if you will.

Sam81 said:

The Bible is clear that God made man in his own image. Even if the word mankind is the word used, after God said that, all He created was Adam.

Later God created Eve in the image of Adam.

Genesis 1:27, NASB: "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."

There would be no need for that semicolon and second statement if both male and female were made in the image of God. It would just say "them" to begin with.

Again, 1st Corinthians 11:7

"For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man."

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If Adam was created in the image of God, and Eve was created in the image of Adam (as you say) then wouldn’t Eve’s image also be of God? And wouldn’t Eve then also be male since Adam is male? Does being “created in the image of” Mean of the same gender or not?

Radagast said:

Like I said, you're denying the Virgin Birth. That's important enough to be in the Creed.

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You say that as if it’s news to me that I’m saying I don’t believe in the virgin birth. Yes, I already said that. Surely you are aware that there are many different types of religious belief and variations of Christianity? Why is it a crucial thing to believe in the virgin birth? Jesus certainly never mentioned the virginity of his mother.

Sparagmos said:

If Adam was created in the image of God, and Eve was created in the image of Adam (as you say) then wouldn’t Eve’s image also be of God? And wouldn’t Eve then also be male since Adam is male? Does being “created in the image of” Mean of the same gender or not?

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Man is not God. So being created in the image of man is not the same as being created in the image of God. Being created in the image of something doesn't mean a clone. Adam was created in the image of God. He is Adam. He is not God but created in the image of God. Then Eve is made in the image of Adam.

This is why a woman is to learn in silence and learn from her husband. Her husband is the covering for her. Her husband intercedes for her the same way Christ intercedes for the church. Women are the image of God only inasmuch as they are the image of man.

Aussie Pete said:

No. It implies that man was really stupid to disobey God in the first place. He knew better. The male/female distinction is hugely overblown. In Christ there is no male or female - God declares that we are equal, as many scriptures confirm. In this life, there are practical differences. Men are not going to give birth any time soon. The next life erases such distinctions.

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So men aren’t more like god than women?

Sam81 said:

Man is not God. So being created in the image of man is not the same as being created in the image of God. Being created in the image of something doesn't mean a clone. Adam was created in the image of God. He is Adam. He is not God but created in the image of God. Then Eve is made in the image of Adam.

This is why a woman is to learn in silence and learn from her husband. Her husband is the covering for her. Her husband intercedes for her the same way Christ intercedes for the church. Women are the image of God only inasmuch as they are the image of man.

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Ok. It doesn’t mean a clone. What does “created in the image of” mean?

Feminism is straight from the pits of hell and destroys a nation.

Sparagmos said:

Ok. It doesn’t mean a clone. What does “created in the image of” mean?

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To be honest, I don't know exactly. I know that it's not a clone... we are not like God. I have my ideas, but there are a lot of ideas for what that means. All we know is that the Bible says that man was made in the image of God, and that woman is the image of man.

Sam81 said:

To be honest, I don't know exactly. I know that it's not a clone... we are not like God. I have my ideas, but there are a lot of ideas for what that means. All we know is that the Bible says that man was made in the image of God, and that woman is the image of man.

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My Bible says that both men and women are created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

On the other hand, my Bible does not say "woman is the image of man." It says "woman is the glory of man" (1 Corinthians 11:7).

GaveMeJoy said:

No. I am,
Some things I’ve gathered already from responses:

in gen 1:27 God says “let us create them in our image” the them would be Adam and Eve/humanity, note it doesn’t say “He/Adam” on the other side then Jesus refers to God as father, which is compelling. Some other people posted a response tp that saying God’s fatherness is more about roles and not about gender as he has no gender.

so I’m landing on God being in a father role but not having a male gender

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OK. Someone else pointed out that this is the controversial section, so what should I expect?

It is a common assumption that since God is a Spirit that as a spirit he has no gender. My pov is that gender and genitalia are not the same thing. He is a Spirit with no genitalia, but he has a gender which is why he always identifies himself in the masculine.

As a speculative view on my part, I believe that our genitalia is a result of the gender of our spirits. A man is a man in his spirit before he has genitalia. A man who carves his body up through surgery to pretend to be a woman may have fake genitalia, but remains a man nonetheless.

Our gender is more than our genitalia. He determines how we think and feel. Reports that I had read by psychiatrists in the past have stated that women think in a multi synapse manner whereas men are much more linear.

If God did not have a masculine gender, why would he identify himself in the masculine?

I also believe that this is another example of God's ability to think outside the box. We can only imagine things from the framework of the creation we are in and our own identities. But consider these few points about God.

God created sleep, yet He does not sleep. So how could he imagine this for his creation?

God can not die, yet He designed death as the means of regeneration (cells have to die before they multiply for growth of the body).

God can not lie because He is truth, yet fully understands what is lying.

So I do not find it remarkable that God would have a masculine gender yet can create a feminine gender, too.

GaveMeJoy said:

God created humans in his image. Denying that woman was also created in the image of God is trash.

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My posts did not deny and do not deny that God created woman in his image. Perhaps you can't read. Or you're deliberately implying I said what I did not say, in which case you need to question your motives.