God as much of a woman as a man

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We see everything backwards. Male and female are hardly the point. Masculine and feminine are more to the point, but even that we don't understand.

While it can be argued that God, like everything else in most languages, is referred to by the generic masculine, I don't think that is all there is to it. God, to my thinking, is decidedly masculine --and by that I don't mean lacking feminine qualities. He just comes across to me that way. But no he is not male. We males are masculine, though not nearly so much as he is.

Further, there are many references to the interaction of God with Humanity --first with Israel, to whom he was "husband", and such things as Song of Solomon; also, Christ and his Bride. There is no end to the ways the work of God for himself and for us is masculine, to my mind at least.

roles of father, husband and leader are not related to sex or gender in scripture when discussing God. What is Masculine and feminine are culturally determined and completely subjective. In some cultures it’s masculine to wear jewelry in others it is not. God is objectively who he is, while some cultures apply masculine or feminine tags to certain attributes of God, it’s irrelevant to who And what God is. And God is not male or female.
 
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Well, now this makes a distinction that makes sense to me.
He’s also equally feminine.
  • God comforts his people like a mother comforts her child (Isaiah 66:13)
  • Like a woman would never forget her nursing child, God will not forget his children (Isaiah 49:15)
  • God is like a mother eagle hovering over her young (Deuteronomy 32:11)
  • God seeks the lost like a housekeeper, trying to find her lost coin (Luke 15:8-10)
  • God cares for his people like a midwife that cares for the child she just delivered (Ps 22:9-10, Ps 71:6, Isa 66:9)
  • God experiences the fury of a mother bear robbed of her cubs (Hosea 13:8)
  • Jesus longed for the people of Jerusalem, like a mother hen longs to gather her chicks under her wings (Luke 13:34)
 
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Every time He has appeared, Old Testament and New, He has appeared in the form of a man.

He is called Father.

He created man first In His Image, then the woman.

He is referred to in the Word of God by masculine pronouns.

He possesses masculine characteristics.
He created both Adam and even in his image. It’s preposterous to claim women are somehow not created in the image of God.

God also has feminine characteristics.
  • God comforts his people like a mother comforts her child (Isaiah 66:13)
  • Like a woman would never forget her nursing child, God will not forget his children (Isaiah 49:15)
  • God is like a mother eagle hovering over her young (Deuteronomy 32:11)
  • God seeks the lost like a housekeeper, trying to find her lost coin (Luke 15:8-10)
  • God cares for his people like a midwife that cares for the child she just delivered (Ps 22:9-10, Ps 71:6, Isa 66:9)
  • God experiences the fury of a mother bear robbed of her cubs (Hosea 13:8)
  • Jesus longed for the people of Jerusalem, like a mother hen longs to gather her chicks under her wings (Luke 13:34)
 
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Men and women naturally possess certain characteristics that the other sex doesn't possess quite as often or as much. In a healthy society that isn't run amok with wickedness and relativism, the primary characteristics seen in men are the primary characteristics seen in God.

With all due respect, if you have a problem getting a picture of what a man is supposed to look like then I can't help you. I don't know what you believe, but as for me, I am not a relativistic, women ordaining, homo affirming, open minded, kumbaya Christian. I believe in an absolute standard...God's Word. So I know what a man is supposed to look like.
I’m not any of those liberal things either. You only believe in an absolute standard of Gods word if it’s interpreted and applied correctly. God has feminine characteristics and masculine characteristics. This does not make him male.
  • God comforts his people like a mother comforts her child (Isaiah 66:13)
  • Like a woman would never forget her nursing child, God will not forget his children (Isaiah 49:15)
  • God is like a mother eagle hovering over her young (Deuteronomy 32:11)
  • God seeks the lost like a housekeeper, trying to find her lost coin (Luke 15:8-10)
  • God cares for his people like a midwife that cares for the child she just delivered (Ps 22:9-10, Ps 71:6, Isa 66:9)
  • God experiences the fury of a mother bear robbed of her cubs (Hosea 13:8)
  • Jesus longed for the people of Jerusalem, like a mother hen longs to gather her chicks under her wings (Luke 13:34)
 
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Do you believe in a divine feminine ?

My problem with whole thing is when you make God a woman when Jesus Christ was a male.
Are you saying divinity is only masculine? Wouldn’t that imply that males are more like god or somehow superior?

why is God’s gender so important?
 
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How was Eve produced? There was no sperm involved nor a mother's womb. God simply took some of Adam's flesh (his rib) with his male chromosomes, and created another person with female chromosomes.
Christ's flesh was formed in Mary's womb in the same manner, taking some of Mary's flesh (her ovum) and forming the zygote of His Son.
I don’t know that Eve was an actual person, but I believe human beings evolved. What you are describing sounds like magic, and I’ve never seen any evidence of magic, but people often use magic to explain things they don’t understand.
 
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God created humans in his image.
God created man. That's what my Bibles say, anyway. Eve was taken out of man. It is a vital spiritual principle relating to Christ and the Church. The attempt to feminise God has no basis in scripture.
 
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You're denying the Virgin Birth. That's kind of a core Christian doctrine.
I’d call it more of a core story or narrative. It has no bearing on Jesus’ teachings how he was conceived.
 
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God created man. That's what my Bibles say, anyway. Eve was taken out of man. It is a vital spiritual principle relating to Christ and the Church. The attempt to feminise God has no basis in scripture.
If god is a man, wouldn’t that imply that men are in a sense superior to women? That men are more like God than women?
 
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That verse doesn't say angels aren't males. It says they do not marry.

Angels are always male and often are confused for being human males because angels look human even though they aren't.
How many angels are there?
 
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Disclaimer to male readers: I am a straight and manly 6 foot 200 pound man, who is red blooded and I am not a progressive or “feminist” or liberal. It’s ok to keep reading and not just dismiss it because you think I’m a woman.

God is a spirit being. God had no gender or physical representation. While Jesus manifested as a male human, he existed as a member of the triune God for eternity before creation.
While it can be argued Jesus is entirely male, there is no scriptural defense for the position that God is male in any way.


The scriptures use the male pronoun to refer to God by default, through translation, and because the scriptures were written in patriarchal societies where the male pronoun would be used for a deity.

As Goddess is a spirit and gender free, she does not have a gender.

The previous sentence sounds weird and is inaccurate. It also doesn’t use common scriptural male terms for God so it feels uncomfortable. However, it is equally as inaccurate as the following sentence:

As God is a spirit and gender free he does not have a gender.

God is not male. It’s OK to admit it, it won’t make you turn blue. :)

but seriously, where am I wrong, any scripture to demonstrate God is male? Do you have a problem with my perspective here shared (other than my Lame jokes) or is it acceptable theologically.

thanks! I’m mostly trying this out because I want to talk to my pastor about it but I don’t want to miss anything important. Thanks!
Hi there,

Not sure if you have considered this verse, but it was the first one that came to mind when I read your question.

“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.” (John 14:7)

In terms if God is male or female, I tend to think saying neither indicates a misunderstanding of how humans were created. God overall is what humans came from is both, and more in a way we cannot fully comprehend but is illustrated through the Trinity.

Perhaps the gender view is affected by the North American individualist culture, when many of the doctrines require a collectivist mindset to grasp.
 
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If god is a man, wouldn’t that imply that men are in a sense superior to women? That men are more like God than women?
No. It implies that man was really stupid to disobey God in the first place. He knew better. The male/female distinction is hugely overblown. In Christ there is no male or female - God declares that we are equal, as many scriptures confirm. In this life, there are practical differences. Men are not going to give birth any time soon. The next life erases such distinctions.
 
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I don’t know that Eve was an actual person, but I believe human beings evolved. What you are describing sounds like magic, and I’ve never seen any evidence of magic, but people often use magic to explain things they don’t understand.
Seriously, what?
 
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I’d call it more of a core story or narrative. It has no bearing on Jesus’ teachings how he was conceived.
Sure it does. If Jesus was conceived the way any of the rest of us were conceived then He is 100% man and 0% God, otherwise God has violated the existence of the person created at conception by wiping them blank and replacing them with His Son.
God the Son already existed as the second person of the Holy Trinity, so by taking Mary's ovum and uniting Himself to it He became flesh, not a new person as happens with every other conception.
 
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God has equal amount of feminine qualities as masculine qualities. The scriptures are literally full of examples of traditionally feminine attributes of God
So does everyone else, the point is God still has a male gender identiy. I'm not saying this to push some sort of male dominated world view or to suggest that God biologically is male but it is what it is and what it is, is "he" not "she" The former is biblical and the latter not biblical. This however is gender association and has nothing to do with God being a man or woman (biological and created characteristics) which is a flawed question. He is neither man, nor woman, he is God, 'nuf said.
 
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In his image doesn’t mean we are like him and he has a biological sex

we resemble or are like him in certain ways. We are made in his image and likeness. Gender is a physical, earthly concept, that I believe teaches us about the divine nature, not that it means God has a gender.

Physical teaches spiritual, as I like to say.

God reveals himself through his creation, which includes humans, animals and plants.
 
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Yes I used goddess intentionally to highlight how improper it is to view God as male but I shouldn’t have because it was inflammatory

I'm not convinced that using the term goddess is helpful though. The term 'actress' is falling out of use, actor works perfectly well for both sexes. In the same way 'God' ought to be fine too, except for the preconceived ideas of the old man with the beard :)
 
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