Is the immune system important in fighting coronavirus?

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There is a few ways the immune system can be dangerous, the flu from a few years ago that was killing healthier people, what it was doing was it was being over zelous in it's attacking infected cells and such and it was killing off so many cells that you didn't have enough working cells in the lungs to breath or such.

That in itself might be an indicator of poor general health or a specific imbalance.
 
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That in itself might be an indicator of poor general health or a specific imbalance.

When you talk about "imbalance", what does that mean?

What does a balanced immune system look like? :scratch:
 
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When you talk about "imbalance", what does that mean?
:scratch:

It means something is out of whack, like a mineral imbalance can cause osteoporosis. Many don't know it until their hip breaks and they fall.
 
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It means something is out of whack, like a mineral imbalance can cause osteoporosis. Many don't know it until their hip breaks and they fall.

were talking with the immune system, there is a ton of woo involved with such nonsense as, "boosting' the immune system, in medical terms thats called inflamatory response which is not a good thing to have, it just better then the disease it's fighting, but not something you want all the time.
 
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It means something is out of whack, like a mineral imbalance can cause osteoporosis. Many don't know it until their hip breaks and they fall.

But what does that have to do with the immune system?
 
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All I've heard is the negative aspects of the immune system i.e. weakened immune systems, autoimmune response, etc. But isn't a healthy immune system the first line of defense against the coronavirus?

Not if it is weaponized.
 
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You do know that many if not most immune diseases arn't a weakened immune system, but the immune system being dangerous?

It can get a little confusing. Immune system problems cover weak immune systems, overactive immune system and autoimmune diseases.

These notes from Johns Hopkins help in explaining the differences:

Immune system disorders

Here are some common examples:
  • Severe combined immunodeficiency (SCID). This is an example of an immune deficiency that is present at birth. Children are in constant danger of infections from bacteria, viruses, and fungi. This disorder is sometimes called “bubble boy disease.” In the 1970s, a boy had to live in a sterile environment inside a plastic bubble. Children with SCID are missing important white blood cells.
  • Temporary acquired immune deficiencies. Your immune system can be weakened by certain medicines, for example. This can happen to people on chemotherapy or other drugs used to treat cancer. It can also happen to people following organ transplants who take medicine to prevent organ rejection. Also, infections like the flu virus, mono (mononucleosis), and measles can weaken the immune system for a brief time. Your immune system can also be weakened by smoking, alcohol, and poor nutrition.
  • AIDS. HIV, which causes AIDS, is an acquired viral infection that destroys important white blood cells and weakens the immune system. People with HIV/AIDS become seriously ill with infections that most people can fight off. These infections are called “opportunistic infections” because they take advantage of weak immune systems.
An overactive immune system
If you are born with certain genes, your immune system may react to substances in the environment that are normally harmless. These substances are called allergens. Having an allergic reaction is the most common example of an overactive immune system. Dust, mold, pollen, and foods are examples of allergens.

Some conditions caused by an overactive immune system are:

  • Asthma. The response in your lungs can cause coughing, wheezing, and trouble breathing. Asthma can be triggered by common allergens like dust or pollen or by an irritant like tobacco smoke.
  • Eczema. An allergen causes an itchy rash known as atopic dermatitis.
  • Allergic rhinitis. Sneezing, a runny nose, sniffling, and swelling of your nasal passages from indoor allergens like dust and pets or outdoor allergens like pollens or molds.
Autoimmune disease
In autoimmune diseases, the body attacks normal, healthy tissues. The cause is unknown. It is probably a combination of a person’s genes and something in the environment that triggers those genes.

Three common autoimmune diseases are:

  • Type 1 diabetes. The immune system attacks the cells in the pancreas that make insulin. Insulin removes sugar from the blood to use as energy.
  • Rheumatoid arthritis. This type of arthritis causes swelling and deformities of the joints. An auto-antibody called rheumatoid factor is in the blood of some people with rheumatoid arthritis.
  • Lupus. This disease that attacks body tissues, including the lungs, kidneys, and skin. Many types of auto-antibodies are found in the blood of people with lupus.
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Forget the immune system.

I heard from a highly placed, very stable genius, that Corvid 19 can be easily sorted with a Dettol injection and a 10 minute sunbake.

There are some minor side effects like poisoning and potential skin cancer but, apart from that, it works fine. ;)

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It checks out. His uncle was some sort of super genius that taught at Harvard for like, a record number of years. That basically makes him an expert.
 
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