Are you bearing good fruit?

BlessedCreator · May 6, 2020

John 15:2 KJB
"Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that
beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

Luke 8:14 KJB
"And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth,
and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection."

Matthew 7:17 KJB
"Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit."

Bearing good fruit means continual growth in faith, purity and good works wrought by God in you
through obedience unto His commandment's and precept's taught in the Holy Bible.

Good fruit is goodness.

That same goodness is the salt spoken of in Matthew chapter 5 verse 13.
"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be
salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men."

When we are new to the faith we are very much still in the world, through the purification
of the Holy Spirit and guidance of scripture we must be "weaned" so to speak from the things of
the world. We must set our minds on doing God's will and not our own.

1 John 2:15-17
"15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world,
the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the
pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."

Some examples/suggestions of bearing good fruit:
alms giving, growing in understanding of scripture, growing in faith/confidence in God
because you are growing closer to Him by doing His will more and more,
doing things less to please yourself and more to please others, reading the word of God more,
purifying yourself by strict obedience unto God, preaching the gospel and truth of this world,
exhorting your brothers and sisters (in lowliness and not confrontational or contentious) to further
good works and understanding of the word and will of God, giving to those who ask

We should all be trying to please God in all that we do, every day.

So I ask you all, are you living for God and His will, bearing good fruit for Him, or are you living for the yourself?

Matthew 7:13-14 KJB
"13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to
destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few
there be that find it."

Matthew 25:30 KJB

"And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

OldWiseGuy · May 6, 2020

BlessedCreator said:
So I ask you all, are you living for God and His will, bearing good fruit for Him, or are you living for yourself?

The ox that treads out the grain must eat as well.

GaveMeJoy · May 7, 2020

BlessedCreator said:
John 15:2 KJB
"Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that
beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

Luke 8:14 KJB
"And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth,
and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection."

Matthew 7:17 KJB
"Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit."

Bearing good fruit means continual growth in faith, purity and good works wrought by God in you
through obedience unto His commandment's and precept's taught in the Holy Bible.

Good fruit is goodness.

That same goodness is the salt spoken of in Matthew chapter 5 verse 13.
"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be
salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men."

When we are new to the faith we are very much still in the world, through the purification
of the Holy Spirit and guidance of scripture we must be "weaned" so to speak from the things of
the world. We must set our minds on doing God's will and not our own.

1 John 2:15-17
"15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world,
the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the
pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."

Some examples/suggestions of bearing good fruit:
alms giving, growing in understanding of scripture, growing in faith/confidence in God
because you are growing closer to Him by doing His will more and more,
doing things less to please yourself and more to please others, reading the word of God more,
purifying yourself by strict obedience unto God, preaching the gospel and truth of this world,
exhorting your brothers and sisters (in lowliness and not confrontational or contentious) to further
good works and understanding of the word and will of God, giving to those who ask

We should all be trying to please God in all that we do, every day.

So I ask you all, are you living for God and His will, bearing good fruit for Him, or are you living for the yourself?

Matthew 7:13-14 KJB
"13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to
destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few
there be that find it."

Matthew 25:30 KJB

"And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Not too much, but some

Tolworth John · May 7, 2020

BlessedCreator said:
We should all be trying to please God in all that we do, every day.

There is the widow's mite and the example of Mary and Martha

The firs would be dispised in most churches as not worth collecting in the second it would be Mary's who would be honoured.

I think it is dangerousd to seek to judge how Christians are living.

BlessedCreator · May 7, 2020

Tolworth John said:
There is the widow's mite and the example of Mary and Martha

The firs would be dispised in most churches as not worth collecting in the second it would be Mary's who would be honoured.

I think it is dangerousd to seek to judge how Christians are living.

1 Tomothy 6:3-4 KJB
"3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,"

Tolworth John · May 8, 2020

BlessedCreator said:
1 Tomothy 6:3-4 KJB
"3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,"

Paul wrote about how he openly proclaimed the gospel and renounced secret and shameful ways.

If you have something to say to me say it

BlessedCreator · May 8, 2020

You are teaching contrary to the doctrine of godliness is what I am saying

pescador · May 9, 2020

BlessedCreator said:
1 Tomothy 6:3-4 KJB
"3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,"

It's never a good idea two choose one or two verses of your choice to try to prove a point to another believer.

Especially if you select the verses from the King James Bible, which is open to all kinds of misinterpretation of the 17th Century English. For example, what does verse 4 mean to you?

In the English that we use today, here is 1 Timothy 6, 1-6 from the excellent New English Translation, a.k.a. The NET Bible...

"All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect,so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered. Those who have believing masters should not show them disrespect just because they are fellow believers. Instead, they should serve them even better because their masters are dear to them as fellow believers and are devoted to the welfare of their slaves.

These are the things you are to teach and insist on. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

But godliness with contentment is great gain."

Personally I think that there are many on this forum who have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between people.

BlessedCreator · May 9, 2020

"It's never a good idea two choose one or two verses of your choice to try to prove a point to another believer."

What else would I use? My own corrupt ideas? No way. I will always use the words of God to teach and exhort and rebuke, not mine own.

Also the KJB is the only English Bible I would every recommend read. Modern Bibles are corrupted as I have proven in this thread: Bible Corruptions

pescador · May 9, 2020

BlessedCreator said:
"It's never a good idea two choose one or two verses of your choice to try to prove a point to another believer."

What else would I use? My own corrupt ideas? No way. I will always use the words of God to teach and exhort and rebuke, not mine own.

Also the KJB is the only English Bible I would every recommend read. Modern Bibles are corrupted as I have proven in this thread: Bible Corruptions

So we should believe you instead of the extremely competent biblical experts who have devoted their adult lives translating from the best and earliest sources, not only of biblical manuscripts but also thousands of corroborating manuscripts, along with archaeological evidence. Then the results are gone over very carefully by people who are experts in creating language that creates the most accurate rendition of English in use today capturing the words and meaning of the translation most relevant to our understanding of God's word.

Give me a break!! You set yourself up as some sort of expert; what are your credentials compared to theirs?

The King James Bible is a weak translation, full of errors. Even the 1611 translators put into the preface that earlier translations were "the word of God" and that their translation was not perfect. They expected it to be modified over time.

It's tragic that you can't accept the best modern scholarship to produce the great Bible translations that we are blessed with today, instead clinging to some myth to bolster your predetermined ideas. Anyone who understands academic work knows that you try to prove yourself wrong, since others will do that when your work is published. Obviously you haven't done that.

Pride cometh before the fall, my friend! You haven't proved a thing except that pride makes one blind.

P.S. The English in your posts has errors. You wrote, "No way. I will always use the words of God to teach and exhort and rebuke, not mine own." [should be my own].

You wrote, "Also the KJB is the only English Bible I would every recommend read. [should be ever recommend reading] Modern Bibles are corrupted as I have proven in this thread: Bible Corruptions "

BlessedCreator · May 10, 2020

The proof is in the post I linked. If you want to read from corrupted Bibles that's your choice. I will always read from the KJB. Unless I have time in the future to learn the languages of the earlier manuscripts in Hebrew and Greek. Which seeing what is going on on the world stage with this fake virus I do not believe I will have that time. Therefore I will continue to read from the only English Bible I trust, the King James Version.

sunshineforJesus · May 10, 2020

I am doing my best every day to.

Bobber · May 10, 2020

BlessedCreator said:
John 15:2 KJB
"Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that
beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

Luke 8:14 KJB
"And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth,
and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection."

Matthew 7:17 KJB
"Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit."

Bearing good fruit means continual growth in faith, purity and good works wrought by God in you
through obedience unto His commandment's and precept's taught in the Holy Bible.

Good fruit is goodness.

That same goodness is the salt spoken of in Matthew chapter 5 verse 13.
"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be
salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men."

When we are new to the faith we are very much still in the world, through the purification
of the Holy Spirit and guidance of scripture we must be "weaned" so to speak from the things of
the world. We must set our minds on doing God's will and not our own.

1 John 2:15-17
"15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world,
the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the
pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."

Some examples/suggestions of bearing good fruit:
alms giving, growing in understanding of scripture, growing in faith/confidence in God
because you are growing closer to Him by doing His will more and more,
doing things less to please yourself and more to please others, reading the word of God more,
purifying yourself by strict obedience unto God, preaching the gospel and truth of this world,
exhorting your brothers and sisters (in lowliness and not confrontational or contentious) to further
good works and understanding of the word and will of God, giving to those who ask

We should all be trying to please God in all that we do, every day.

So I ask you all, are you living for God and His will, bearing good fruit for Him, or are you living for the yourself?

Matthew 7:13-14 KJB
"13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to
destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few
there be that find it."

Matthew 25:30 KJB

"And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Your whole post is good...well actually it's all scripture. One thing I think should be understood though is in order to really produce fruit one must allow themselves to be FILLED with God's word and God's manifested presence which rises up through our daily praise and worship I mean really getting into the presence of God. Out of that comes the real ability to produce the fruit that's born of God. If someone is just trying to produce fruit they can enter into a never ending cycle of frustration if they're without the two things I mentioned above.

pescador · May 10, 2020

BlessedCreator said:
The proof is in the post I linked. If you want to read from corrupted Bibles that's your choice. I will always read from the KJB. Unless I have time in the future to learn the languages of the earlier manuscripts in Hebrew and Greek. Which seeing what is going on on the world stage with this fake virus I do not believe I will have that time. Therefore I will continue to read from the only English Bible I trust, the King James Version.

Even if you learned Hebrew and Greek you would still not be a competent translator. There is a lot more to it than simply knowing the languages. You must understand the nuances and cultures of both languages, then be able to translate them into modern English. As I pointed out before, your English is error-filled.

If you want to use the KJB that's your choice, but stop passing yourself off as some authority. Stop being so hypercritical of those of us who don't use your chosen translation; you obviously lack the authority to do so.

BlessedCreator · May 10, 2020

And I would learn everything if I had the time. For God's words are living and we should desire to understand the purest revelation from them. For me as an English reader, that has been best preserved in the KJB.

Never claimed to be an authority. Just telling you the truths that God gas revealed to me. If you want to be contentious and keep trying to slander me that is fine but the proof of what I have spoken is all laid out plainly in the link I posted.

I am typing on my phone with 1 thumb and auto correct mistakes happen, or my own errors, but who cares, you can tell what I mean even so, let's not attack each other but speak the truth and God will exalt the truth in the eyes and ears of those that love it.

pescador · May 10, 2020

BlessedCreator said:
And I would learn everything if I had the time. For God's words are living and we should desire to understand the purest revelation from them. For me as an English reader, that has been best preserved in the KJB.

Never claimed to be an authority. Just telling you the truths that God gas revealed to me. If you want to be contentious and keep trying to slander me that is fine but the proof of what I have spoken is all laid out plainly in the link I posted.

I am typing on my phone with 1 thumb and auto correct mistakes happen, or my own errors, but who cares, you can tell what I mean even so, let's not attack each other but speak the truth and God will exalt the truth in the eyes and ears of those that love it.

You act like you're an authority when you post all the supposed mistranslations, i.e., differences from the KJB, in the Bible. You're not impressing anybody in the way that you think you are. You just seem to be cutting-and-pasting something you've read. You think that God has revealed this stuff to you but not to anybody else on this forum. That is ridiculous.

Your excuse about blaming your phone for your grammatical errors doesn't hold up. You are responsible for your errors, not some mechanical device. You say, "you can tell what I mean even so" is entirely at odds with somebody who nit-picks about words.

I am not trying to slander you. I am trying to get you to dismount from your "high horse" of pride and realize that you're just like the rest of us. You lack the authority to point out that everybody is misled by using excellent modern translations. As I've said previously, you're not a professional translator so stop pretending that you are. Why not just say that you prefer using the KJV and leave it at that?

BlessedCreator · May 10, 2020

I am just giving my opinion and sharing the research that I have done. I'm not claiming to be an authority neither am I trying to impress anyone. I just want people to be aware of the truth. I preach the truth. Modern Bibles are corrupted by Satan's agents. They are who God warned us of, calling them false apostles, ministers of unrighteousness and grievous wolves that would "enter in not sparing the flock".

pescador · May 10, 2020

BlessedCreator said:
I am just giving my opinion and sharing the research that I have done. I'm not claiming to be an authority neither am I trying to impress anyone. I just want people to be aware of the truth. I preach the truth. Modern Bibles are corrupted by Satan's agents. They are who God warned us of, calling them false apostles, ministers of unrighteousness and grievous wolves that would "enter in not sparing the flock".

You are not "just giving my opinion", you are stating your thoughts as fact. You say "I preach the truth" in your opinion only. That's all it is: your opinion. You're entitled to that, but so is everyone else.

Then you make another outrageous statement: "Modern Bibles are corrupted by Satan's agents." You have absolutely no proof of that; you're just giving your opinion.

Where in the Bible the Bible does it specifically say that translators are the ones whom "God warned us of, calling them false apostles, ministers of unrighteousness and grievous wolves that would "enter in not sparing the flock"? Show me where that refers to expert translators.

Otherwise it is, as you said, just your opinion. In my opinion you are twisting the meaning of Scripture to suit your (wrong) opinion.

Why is it so difficult for you to admit that you don't have the handle on the truth? The King James is a 400-year-old translation, nothing more. You're trying to malign other believers who prefer other translations.

Here is Matthew 7:1-5 in your beloved KJV: "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

Here is what it means in the language that we use every day: "Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For by the standard you judge you will be judged, and the measure you use will be the measure you receive. Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to see the beam of wood in your own? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye,’ while there is a beam in your own? You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

Either way, the meaning is abundantly clear. May God have mercy on you for judging others in the body of Christ.

pescador · May 10, 2020

Did you know that when Jesus quoted Scripture, he was using the Septuagint? That's the Greek translation of the ancient Hebrew. I'm sure the Pharisees couldn't accept that the Lord wasn't quoting their Hebrew scrolls that were in their synagogues. Do you see how you are continuing their ways? Probably not.

My advice: stop denigrating the Word of God! Your "King James only" attitude makes you look foolish to almost everyone else. If you can't accept the best Biblical scholarship that produces the modern translations, then you can't. That's your problem, but IMHO you sound foolish.

Proverbs 12:15: "The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice." ESV

BlessedCreator · May 10, 2020

The proof is on the page I linked. There are intentional corruptions in modern Bibles.

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