Was it a church or synagogue?
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Circe (/ˈsɜːrsiː/; Greek: Κίρκη Kírkē pronounced [kírkɛː]) is a enchantress or sorceress in Greek mythology.[1] She is a daughter of the god Helios and either the Oceanid nymph Perse or the goddess Hecate. Circe was renowned for her vast knowledge of potions and herbs; one of her Homeric epithets is polypharmakos ("knowing many drugs or charms").[2] Through the use of these and a magic wand or staff, she would transform her enemies, or those who offended her, into animals.
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church (n.)
Old English cirice, circe "place of assemblage set aside for Christian worship; the body of Christian believers, Christians collectively; ecclesiastical authority or power," from Proto-Germanic *kirika (source also of Old Saxon kirika, Old Norse kirkja, Old Frisian zerke, Middle Dutch kerke, Dutch kerk, Old High German kirihha, German Kirche).
church | Origin and meaning of church by Online Etymology Dictionary
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Matt 16:18 "I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it."
If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Matt 18:17
Rom 16:5 also greet the church that is in their house. Greet Epaenetus, my beloved, who is the first convert to Christ from Asia.
Rom 16:16 Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ greet you.
1 Cor 1:2 the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:
Col 1:18 He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.
Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,
James 5:14 Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord;
3 John 1:9 I wrote something to the church; but Diotrephes, who loves to be first among them, does not accept what we say.
Rev 1:11 saying, “Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea.”
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There's another one.
(CLV) Mt 16:18
Now I, also, am saying to you that you/ are Peter, and on this rock will I be building My ecclesia, and the gates of the unseen shall not be prevailing against it.
Hades (/ˈheɪdiːz/; Greek: ᾍδης Hádēs; Ἅιδης Háidēs), in the ancient Greek religion and myth, is the god of the dead and the king of the underworld, with which his name became synonymous.[1] Hades was the eldest son of Cronus and Rhea, although the last son regurgitated by his father.[2] He and his brothers, Zeus and Poseidon, defeated their father's generation of gods, the Titans, and claimed rulership over the cosmos. Hades received the underworld, Zeus the sky, and Poseidon the sea, with the solid earth, long the province of Gaia, available to all three concurrently. Hades was often portrayed with his three-headed guard dog Cerberus.
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I doubt that Yahshua would let these Pagan words pass his lips.
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Since the Jewish men who wrote the New Testament termed it Church or more specifically 'ecclesia' in the original Greek, they must have referred to it as such. If they wanted to call it a synagogue they would have written it that way in the New Testament since that word was used multiple times to describe Jewish buildings dedicated to worship.
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Why do you think the translation refers to a building when the correct translation refers to a congregation, assembly, Messianic community. An even better translation of 'ecclesia' is 'called out ones' not a building (synagogue or church). You shouldn't refer to 'ecclesia' as it as if it is going to heaven.
Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you,
whom you have received from God? (called out ones)
whom you have received from God? (called out ones)
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The word Church has multiple different meanings within English. It can refer to a building or the community that gathers in any particular building.
My only point is in response to the proposition that the New Testament when it speaks of ecclesia is actually speaking about a synagogue. If the authors of the New Testament wanted to make it clear that they were really going to a synagogue they would have just written synagogue, as they did numerous times. Yet they chose the word Church (ecclesia) multiple times.
This I believe was done to already distinguish the Church from Judaism.
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I'm not exactly sure what it is you're saying here. Are you saying the New Testament authors (for the most part) weren't ethnically Jewish? Also what is the problem with the Greek text that the Apostles or their associates wrote? They already knew how to distinguish between Church and synagogue in the New Testament. They use both words in the Greek. If they intended synagogue they would have written it, but they used the word Church instead.
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Working off the idea that the original writings were in Greek may give liberties to say this. Working off the idea that all original writings were in Hebrew and destroyed gives me rights to believe the original authors being Jewish would have used Hebrew to write to those in Jerusalem and talk about what is going on in Jerusalem with fellow believers.
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There is simply no good reason to deny the Greek authorship of the New Testament in General. One can make arguments for Hebrews or Matthew being in Aramaic but that's about it.
Be this as it may the only text we can rely upon is the Greek which distinguishes between the two and if are you suggesting the text cannot be trusted in this instance what else can't we trust about it? Are we to trust your reconstruction over the text we have?
Mind you, your premise is simply wrong that the New Testament was written by Jews to Jews in Jerusalem. Mark was likely written to a Roman Audience. Luke's gospel was likewise written to a Gentile audience and he himself was not Jewish. Paul's letters explicitly are towards Churches not in Jerusalem and it makes sense for them to be in Greek.
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