Euronews: the true depths of Trump’s dangerous narcissistic pathology

Ethalee said:

Regardless on your personal opinions on Trump, because in many ways I agree that he isn't the brightest man and he certainly has an ego, we ought to be grateful that he is president considering he was running against satanists, and the only thing standing between the US and the most evil people being in ultimate power. I suggest you read the wikileaks emails because that alone exposes Clinton and Obama to be involved in child trafficking and even has leads to pedosatanism with one of Clinton's emails saying "I sacrificed a chicken in the backyard to Moloch" - known demon of child sacrifices. He may not be the best leader, far from it. But it would have been a lot worse without him.

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Well, I can’t say that your post is the funniest thing I’ve read this evening. That goes to this story:
Arizona Workers Blast 'Live and Let Die' While Maskless Trump Tours Factory

But you’re a solid runner up.

eclipsenow said:

Time for the 25th? If not ,surely by now the American people have seen what's going on and won't reelect him? Please? As well as doing it for yourselves, also do it for us Australians, who quite frankly are frightened by his erratic behaviour?

Although the mainstream media have largely refused to name Trump’s disordered mind, a cohort of mental health professionals have been consistently sounding the alarm. During the 2016 presidential election campaign, three psychiatrists wrote to then-President Barack Obama warning that Trump’s widely-reported symptoms of mental instability led them to question his fitness for office. Since Trump was sworn in as president, Yale psychiatrist Bandy Lee has been leading a group of mental health professionals in a concerted campaign to raise awareness of the dangers posed by Trump’s pathological mental state.

The condition that these mental health professionals converge upon to explain Trump’s wide range of abnormal behaviours is a disorder known as malignant narcissism. While individual characteristics of Trump’s behaviour are routinely covered in mainstream media, there has been no concerted effort to connect these disparate symptoms to this underlying pathological condition that unites and explains them all. An understanding of Trump’s dangerously disordered mind, however, demands that we join the dots between the various aspects of his extreme behaviours; particularly his narcissism, his paranoia and his incapacity to accept reality.​

Joining up the dots shows the true depths of Trump’s dangerous narcissistic pathology ǀ View

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Aren’t psychiatrists not supposed to diagnose people they haven’t met?

eclipsenow said:

Time for the 25th? If not ,surely by now the American people have seen what's going on and won't reelect him? Please? As well as doing it for yourselves, also do it for us Australians, who quite frankly are frightened by his erratic behaviour?

Although the mainstream media have largely refused to name Trump’s disordered mind, a cohort of mental health professionals have been consistently sounding the alarm. During the 2016 presidential election campaign, three psychiatrists wrote to then-President Barack Obama warning that Trump’s widely-reported symptoms of mental instability led them to question his fitness for office. Since Trump was sworn in as president, Yale psychiatrist Bandy Lee has been leading a group of mental health professionals in a concerted campaign to raise awareness of the dangers posed by Trump’s pathological mental state.

The condition that these mental health professionals converge upon to explain Trump’s wide range of abnormal behaviours is a disorder known as malignant narcissism. While individual characteristics of Trump’s behaviour are routinely covered in mainstream media, there has been no concerted effort to connect these disparate symptoms to this underlying pathological condition that unites and explains them all. An understanding of Trump’s dangerously disordered mind, however, demands that we join the dots between the various aspects of his extreme behaviours; particularly his narcissism, his paranoia and his incapacity to accept reality.​

Joining up the dots shows the true depths of Trump’s dangerous narcissistic pathology ǀ View

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Yet after all of that the world hasn't ended.

iluvatar5150 said:

Well, I can’t say that your post is the funniest thing I’ve read this evening. That goes to this story:
Arizona Workers Blast 'Live and Let Die' While Maskless Trump Tours Factory

But you’re a solid runner up.

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I don't really think government corruption to this level is to be taken very lightly. I do recommend these documentaries about the matter if you have the time.

Ethalee said:

I don't really think government corruption to this level is to be taken very lightly. I do recommend these documentaries about the matter if you have the time.

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It is profoundly irresponsible to spread this kind of nonsense. People who lack basic critical thinking skills often fall for this kind of trash, so by spreading it you are encouraging people to equate being manipulated on an emotional level with having some sort of 'secret understanding'. This kind of viral mental contagion is indeed not something that should be taken lightly.

eclipsenow said:

Where did you get all that - The Onion?
Also, whoever said The President has the ULTIMATE POWER over anything? Sure, I'm cranky with Trump not executing his Presidential powers the way he should have and geared up his administration the way he should have to fight this war on Coronavirus. But - despite what Trump might think - The President of the United States is not the ULTIMATE POWER of anything. There are checks and balances.

In fact, we all know where lies the ULTIMATE POWER IN THIS UNIVERSE.View attachment 276402

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I know presidency doesn't mean ultimate power but it'd sort of be a sign that 'they won', and it's a powerful position nonetheless. The people engaged in this stuff are already extremely rich, influential and powerful, that's how they get away with that type of thing. This is not from the onion or any sort of satire, it can be done by simply researching Epstein and everyone involved in his island. I've been researching elite illegal activity for a long time because it's something that interests me. I linked to two documentaries above that do a good job at scraping the surface of the subject. A lot of this is publicly accessible because elites tend to blatantly post about it due to feeling untouchable, that and many higher up people have tried to just straight up expose them. Look into Isaac Kappy if you have the chance, he was a hollywood director that came out and said that a lot of the stuff people have been investigating regarding this stuff is true, that he isn't suicidal and if he dies he is murdered. He released video footage of some of these happenings and then shortly after "committed suicide". Elite trafficking is a very real thing and politicians discussing doing it has been leaked by Julian Assange.

Tom 1 said:

It is profoundly irresponsible to spread this kind of nonsense. People who lack basic critical thinking skills often fall for this kind of trash, so by spreading it you are encouraging people to equate being manipulated on an emotional level with having some sort of 'secret understanding'. This kind of viral mental contagion is indeed not something that should be taken lightly.

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Please explain to me how this is in any way nonsense? The things talked about in both documentaries are in no way misinformed. I know Clinton's explanation for the emails is simply that Podesta is Italian and they talk about food a lot but that doesn't really hold up when it's been used in the following contexts, that have all been government verified:

"With fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch . . ." WikiLeaks - Hillary Clinton Email Archive

"Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment, and they will be in that pool for sure." Re: Farmers L Update and Welcome Mat - WikiLeaks

If you can debunk that these allude to bad activity then please do. Because if all it takes is "critical thinking" I am happy to hear. It's also not a "secret understanding", this stuff is all publicly available to research if you need. I think you may just not wish to accept that there is true wickedness at work because you can't fathom such evil, which really just means you have a good heart.

Ethalee said:

Please explain to me how this is in any way nonsense? The things talked about in both documentaries are in no way misinformed. I know Clinton's explanation for the emails is simply that Podesta is Italian and they talk about food a lot but that doesn't really hold up when it's been used in the following contexts, that have all been government verified:

"With fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch . . ." WikiLeaks - Hillary Clinton Email Archive

"Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment, and they will be in that pool for sure." Re: Farmers L Update and Welcome Mat - WikiLeaks

If you can debunk that these allude to bad activity then please do. Because if all it takes is "critical thinking" I am happy to hear

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Sure, what you have there is a chain link of random assertions that, if actually taken seriously, appear to make an argument. This kind of thing can only be debunked within the mind of the person who has been fooled by it. There are 2 elements to that - go through the whole vid, start with the first assertion and map out the supposed links made, one by one. Look at each one in detail and give some serious thought to why you actually think it is real or true, i.e. not what someone is telling you but why, in relation to reality, you think it is real. If you are able to do this you may begin to see the house of cards that leads to the conclusions this kind of fantasy thinking leads to. The other element is to educate yourself, read real writing about real things, teach yourself how to critically analyse information and read lots of it, read the sources you have been manipulated not to trust. You might find it difficult on an emotional level to do that but just put your critical thinking hat on and, if you can manage it, you'll start to see the bigger picture. Nobody can do that for you, it's your responsibility.

must be a full moon tonight

Tom 1 said:

Sure, what you have there is a chain link of random assertions that, if actually taken seriously, appear to make an argument. This kind of thing can only be debunked within the mind of the person who has been fooled by it. There are 2 elements to that - go through the whole vid, start with the first assertion and map out the supposed links made, one by one. Look at each one in detail and give some serious thought to why you actually think it is real or true, i.e. not what someone is telling you but why, in relation to reality, you think it is real. If you are able to do this you may begin to see the house of cards that leads to the conclusions this kind of fantasy thinking leads to. The other element is to educate yourself, read real writing about real things, teach yourself how to critically analyse information and read lots of it, read the sources you have been manipulated not to trust. You might find it difficult on an emotional level to do that but just put your critical thinking hat on and, if you can manage it, you'll start to see the bigger picture. Nobody can do that for you, it's your responsibility.

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I mean that's rather condescending to believe I haven't read up on things endlessly and that I don't often educate myself. I am asking you specifically though, how are these things not linked? I do recommend you actually take the time to watch what I have sent you especially the first one. How are the things I've shown you not significant? The first documentary shows that corporations have encrypted explicit images of children on their sites that are just readily available on the internet for all to see. This is solid evidence as are the emails, as are Comet's own postings, as are the FBI confirmations for symbolism and meaning. Why are these things, in your eyes, random assertions when they all involve the same people, same things and are pretty concrete? You haven't really addressed anything I've shown you either, just been vague. If I can be shown that these findings are insignificant I'd have my mind change in an instant but there has been simply nothing to suggest otherwise.

Ethalee said:

I mean that's rather condescending to believe I haven't read up on things endlessly and that I don't often educate myself. I am asking you specifically though, how are these things not linked? I do recommend you actually take the time to watch what I have sent you especially the first one. How are the things I've shown you not significant? The first documentary shows that corporations have encrypted explicit images of children on their sites that are just readily available on the internet for all to see. This is solid evidence as are the emails, as are Comet's own postings, as are the FBI confirmations for symbolism and meaning. Why are these things, in your eyes, random assertions when they all involve the same people, same things and are pretty concrete? You haven't really addressed anything I've shown you either, just been vague. If I can be shown that these findings are insignificant I'd have my mind change in an instant but there has been simply nothing to suggest otherwise.

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‘Evidence’ that is only decipherable as ‘evidence’ once you have already bought into a fantasy world is not real, it bears no actual relation to anything. Belief in this kind of thing seems to be a pit only the person who has fallen into can dig themselves out of. The positive side of that is that in digging yourself out there is the potential to learn a lot of useful things.

Tom 1 said:

‘Evidence’ that is only decipherable as ‘evidence’ once you have already bought into a fantasy world is not real, it bears no actual relation to anything. Belief in this kind of thing seems to be a pit only the person who has fallen into can themselves out of. The positive side of that is that in digging yourself out there is the potential to learn a lot of useful things.

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How are the emails that politicians send eachother about these activities not evidence of these activities? Again you keep saying that I live in a fantasy world but you have never explained how these things are just fantasy and how they aren't credible.

eclipsenow said:

Can you please leave my thread and start your own? I'd like to discuss the things I actually posted in the Opening Post - thanks!

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Alright. Apologies if I bothered you, that is not my intention, I simply fail to do well in social situations like these.

eclipsenow said:

Time for the 25th? If not ,surely by now the American people have seen what's going on and won't reelect him? Please? As well as doing it for yourselves, also do it for us Australians, who quite frankly are frightened by his erratic behaviour?

Although the mainstream media have largely refused to name Trump’s disordered mind, a cohort of mental health professionals have been consistently sounding the alarm. During the 2016 presidential election campaign, three psychiatrists wrote to then-President Barack Obama warning that Trump’s widely-reported symptoms of mental instability led them to question his fitness for office. Since Trump was sworn in as president, Yale psychiatrist Bandy Lee has been leading a group of mental health professionals in a concerted campaign to raise awareness of the dangers posed by Trump’s pathological mental state.

The condition that these mental health professionals converge upon to explain Trump’s wide range of abnormal behaviours is a disorder known as malignant narcissism. While individual characteristics of Trump’s behaviour are routinely covered in mainstream media, there has been no concerted effort to connect these disparate symptoms to this underlying pathological condition that unites and explains them all. An understanding of Trump’s dangerously disordered mind, however, demands that we join the dots between the various aspects of his extreme behaviours; particularly his narcissism, his paranoia and his incapacity to accept reality.​

Joining up the dots shows the true depths of Trump’s dangerous narcissistic pathology ǀ View

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A related question would be what leads to people being willing to actually believe in someone like Trump? The incident of someone playing ‘live and let die’ at the mask manufacturing plant might be a sign that some workers at least are realising that a business fraud, who employs illegal workers and avoids paying them or anyone else he owes money to whenever he can get away with it, perhaps isn’t on their side after all.

iluvatar5150 said:

Well, I can’t say that your post is the funniest thing I’ve read this evening. That goes to this story:
Arizona Workers Blast 'Live and Let Die' While Maskless Trump Tours Factory

But you’re a solid runner up.

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That's awesome those workers are pushing back at Trump's PR stunt at their expense. We need MORE culture jamming going on right now.

Tom 1 said:

A related question would be what leads to people being willing to actually believe in someone like Trump?

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I confess one of my failings, probably my major failing, is that I am an elitist. I think people in general are dumb. I just never thought they would be dumb enough to elect someone like Trump. I guess that means I'm dumb too.

Ophiolite said:

I confess one of my failings, probably my major failing, is that I am an elitist. I think people in general are dumb. I just never thought they would be dumb enough to elect someone like Trump. I guess that means I'm dumb too.

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It does seem that the political elites, as they are often referred to, in the US ignored the plight of rural and small town Americans struggling to make a living. Maybe the whole Hollywood industry conditions people to respond to the kind of tough guy act Trump does well, his whole reality TV show, which seems to have been a hit, was based on him playing the role of a successful businessman, rather than the fraud he actually is, and that play acting appears to have a particular resonance in the US. Probably there is a lot more to it than that. I think the whole disinformation campaign was more fuel to the fire than the fire itself, but who knows really. Seems like the US as a country needs to develop some political maturity but the opposite seems to be happening, what might be lessons learned just seem to result in more entrenched partisanship. Oh well.