Defending My Faith

boxman144 · May 5, 2020

I've been attacked today. Not physically, but verbally. Multiple times today, all because of my faith.

I was in a GC(group chat) on Instagram with some people, and someone said that all Christians should be crucified(supposedly it was a joke). Obviously, I detested this and said, "Hey, please don't say that. It's very disrespectful." And they went off on me. I'm talking like 6 people against me. All saying derogatory things against me for like an hour or 2. And you know what I said? Nothing rude, at all. I just kept saying, "All I'm asking is that you please don't say it again." That's mostly what I was saying.

And they kept on attacking me, saying rude things about the Trinity that make me sick. One of them said they'll rape Jesus and I almost puked. And I said "Prayers and blessings to you

"

One of them said if all Christians were crucified, the world would be a better place. Its so disgusting. They kept calling me soft, a snowflake, a baby, whiner, and all sorts of stuff I cannot say here.

And one of them said "I'll take your

and shove it down your throat".

I felt so sad. So very sad. Why must I adamantly be attacked for my faith? I'm mostly peaceful. I don't know why I am attacked for this.

The other day I posted 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 on my story, and someone in the other GC I was in attacked me for this. Called me a hypocrite. I am a hypocrite, I admit that fully and it is totally my fault. I'm still working on it.

Thing is, I have a couple homosexual friends in that chat, some bisexual as well. And some Muslim and spiritual. I know I have to tell the truth to them but they attacked me so much, called me stupid and a donkey, a fool, hypocrite, all sorts of nasty stuff. I apologized but they still attacked me. I had to leave.

I was very hurt. Why must I be attacked like this? I don't try to hurt anyone. One GC that I was in, I got kicked bc I was "too nice". What? How? Shall I stop being nice?

I just want to die. I don't want to be here. Nothing I do is EVER good enough for anybody, not even for me.

Why must I be hurt and mocked and laughed at like this?

Should I post the screenshots of the first convo here so you guys can see?

Albion · May 5, 2020

boxman144 said:
I was very hurt. Why must I be attacked like this? I don't try to hurt anyone. One GC that I was in, I got kicked bc I was "too nice". What? How? Shall I stop being nice?...Why must I be hurt and mocked and laughed at like this?

Hello! The easy answer would be that maybe you shouldn't be part of online discussions of this sort--but that's not a terribly helpful answer.

Better would be to advise you that there are a lot of people online ONLY for the purpose of hurting others with their words, knowing that you cannot return the favor as they are safe in their mothers' basements. Also, that they run in packs.

As a result, the better approach would be to make your case, whatever it is, confident that a lot of other people will read it also, people who do not write much but do read such webpages.

Then when the gang begins to attack, be disciplined enough to end the give and take. cold. If you do that, you'll feel much better!

God Bless!

HatedByAll · May 5, 2020

I am a former homosexual and what you state that you have said would not have been very encouraging to me back when I was actively seeking a life fulfilled by sex and a relationship with a man. For one, you posted 1 Cor 6:9-10 without posting 1 Cor 6:11?

Go read the scriptures you have posted and the following one and think how you would feel about the person telling you that, and then contemplate why you did not leave off the most important verse in that section of scripture.

Not trying to make you feel bad, but if you are going to witness to those who in that struggle, at least try to understand why what you are saying can hurt them more than help. The law without Grace is not the Christian way.

Oldmantook · May 5, 2020

HatedByAll said:
I am a former homosexual and what you state that you have said would not have been very encouraging to me back when I was actively seeking a life fulfilled by sex and a relationship with a man. For one, you posted 1 Cor 6:9-10 without posting 1 Cor 6:11?

Go read the scriptures you have posted and the following one and think how you would feel about the person telling you that, and then contemplate why you did not leave off the most important verse in that section of scripture.

Not trying to make you feel bad, but if you are going to witness to those who in that struggle, at least try to understand why what you are saying can hurt them more than help. The law without Grace is not the Christian way.

I doubt that they would have listened no matter what he said.

Carl Emerson · May 5, 2020

Would 1 Cor 6:11 help if their sins were not in the past and washed away?

Is it to communicate some hope?

Richard T · May 5, 2020

You should be encouraged that Jesus tried to prepare us for this. At least you do not live in a nation where you can be physically harmed. (not yet anyway). Toughen yourself up and expect this if you are going to discuss such things. Let your speech be seasoned with grace as well. God bless!
John 15:18-21 (KJV)
18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

Sabertooth · May 5, 2020

boxman144 said:
Should I post the screenshots of the first convo here so you guys can see?

That isn't necessary (and would likely violate CF rules).

Jesus said,
“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
For they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
For they shall be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
For they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
For they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you,
and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake.
Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven,
for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you." Matthew 5:3-12 NKJV

(The bolded verses apply more specifically to the incidents in the OP.)

One of my previous pastors used to say that Christians need to be hard on the outside and soft on the inside. You called more attention to yourself than was prudent. (We must choose our battles.)

Jesus also said,
“Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves.
Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves." Matthew 10:16 NKJV

I am on two forums that have the same secular presence as you have described. Whenever someone makes such a "joke" in poor taste, I just pray about how I should respond. Often it is nothing at all or ghosting that thread or returning to the topic before the insult was made. Other times God gives me just the right words to say to shut them up.

And Jesus said,
“You have heard that it was said,
‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
But I say to you,

love your enemies,
bless those who curse you,
do good to those who hate you, and
pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,

that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust." Matthew 5:43-45 NKJV

My wife likes to say that whenever people are being rude & obnoxious, God is calling our attention to them to pray for them.

Finally, if there is nothing redemptive happening at that group or forum, just don't go back.

HatedByAll · May 5, 2020

Carl Emerson said:
Would 1 Cor 6:11 help if their sins were not in the past and washed away?

Is it to communicate some hope?

Carl, the one principle that Christians should learn from 1 Cor 6: 9-10 that it seems most miss is that Paul lets us know that what we should learn from the sins of these people is that they are unbelievers. That is the most important thing we should learn from those two scriptures. In other parts of the Bible, the scriptures are about the Law, but these verses are more practical. They are telling believers how to discern a person's righteousness for the purposes of, in this case, using them as judges.

Verse 11 is almost an "I better not leave it at that" statement. But, this is the one verse in the Bible that everyone can claim when they are concerned for the salvation of sinners who are involved in the types of sins mentioned in the previous verses. Hope is a wonderful thing.

Tolworth John · May 5, 2020

boxman144 said:
I was in a GC(group chat) on Instagram with some people, and someone said that all Christians should be crucified(supposedly it was a joke). Obviously, I detested this and said, "Hey, please don't say that. It's very disrespectful." And they went off on me. I'm talking like 6 people against me. All saying derogatory things against me for like an hour or 2. And you know what I said? Nothing rude, at all. I just kept saying, "All I'm asking is that you please don't say it agai

First of all do not take what they were saying personally. They were saying things to upset you and to get a reaction, because you didn't react they had to try harder to upset you.

Second check out the rules of that group. If they have something about not insulting others etc. Report there actions to the moderator.

May I suggest something.
When people are rude or make statements against Christianity ask two questions.
What evidence do you have for that statement/belief?
Why do you belief that?

Let them show those there that they are acting out of ignorance and prejudice.
Just be sure that when they ask you the same questions that you can answer them.

MyLifeForChrist · May 5, 2020

There are good folks up here that are attacked also on a daily basis. They are not discouraged nor do they give up as you can see above by some of their responses. Believe it or not? You will have more trouble with those using a watered down version of Christianity to take over your local community's soul than you ever will those who outright blaspheme or attack.
This virus is bringing a whole lot of them out of the woodwork so keep reading and being encouraged by those whose words most blessedly will.

Aussie Pete · May 5, 2020

boxman144 said:
I've been attacked today. Not physically, but verbally. Multiple times today, all because of my faith.

I was in a GC(group chat) on Instagram with some people, and someone said that all Christians should be crucified(supposedly it was a joke). Obviously, I detested this and said, "Hey, please don't say that. It's very disrespectful." And they went off on me. I'm talking like 6 people against me. All saying derogatory things against me for like an hour or 2. And you know what I said? Nothing rude, at all. I just kept saying, "All I'm asking is that you please don't say it again." That's mostly what I was saying.

And they kept on attacking me, saying rude things about the Trinity that make me sick. One of them said they'll rape Jesus and I almost puked. And I said "Prayers and blessings to you"

One of them said if all Christians were crucified, the world would be a better place. Its so disgusting. They kept calling me soft, a snowflake, a baby, whiner, and all sorts of stuff I cannot say here.

And one of them said "I'll take your and shove it down your throat".

I felt so sad. So very sad. Why must I adamantly be attacked for my faith? I'm mostly peaceful. I don't know why I am attacked for this.

The other day I posted 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 on my story, and someone in the other GC I was in attacked me for this. Called me a hypocrite. I am a hypocrite, I admit that fully and it is totally my fault. I'm still working on it.

Thing is, I have a couple homosexual friends in that chat, some bisexual as well. And some Muslim and spiritual. I know I have to tell the truth to them but they attacked me so much, called me stupid and a donkey, a fool, hypocrite, all sorts of nasty stuff. I apologized but they still attacked me. I had to leave.

I was very hurt. Why must I be attacked like this? I don't try to hurt anyone. One GC that I was in, I got kicked bc I was "too nice". What? How? Shall I stop being nice?

I just want to die. I don't want to be here. Nothing I do is EVER good enough for anybody, not even for me.

Why must I be hurt and mocked and laughed at like this?

Should I post the screenshots of the first convo here so you guys can see?

Why are you surprised? Lord Jesus warned us that this is the cost of being a disciple. Lord Jesus never did anyone any harm. He even raised dead people. He got crucified for His trouble. My suggestion is to avoid putting yourself in the position to be attacked, at least until you can laugh it off. You realise that they are deliberately being as obnoxious as they can? It's easy for them, they don't have to face you personally. I spent 3-1/2 years on a warship as a brand new Christian. Some were hostile but most were ok. Some even wanted to know about the Lord because they could see that I was different.

agapelove · May 5, 2020

Those are not real friends.

Block them and move on. Do not engage with cyberbullies.

Dave L · May 5, 2020

boxman144 said:
I've been attacked today. Not physically, but verbally. Multiple times today, all because of my faith.

I was in a GC(group chat) on Instagram with some people, and someone said that all Christians should be crucified(supposedly it was a joke). Obviously, I detested this and said, "Hey, please don't say that. It's very disrespectful." And they went off on me. I'm talking like 6 people against me. All saying derogatory things against me for like an hour or 2. And you know what I said? Nothing rude, at all. I just kept saying, "All I'm asking is that you please don't say it again." That's mostly what I was saying.

And they kept on attacking me, saying rude things about the Trinity that make me sick. One of them said they'll rape Jesus and I almost puked. And I said "Prayers and blessings to you"

One of them said if all Christians were crucified, the world would be a better place. Its so disgusting. They kept calling me soft, a snowflake, a baby, whiner, and all sorts of stuff I cannot say here.

And one of them said "I'll take your and shove it down your throat".

I felt so sad. So very sad. Why must I adamantly be attacked for my faith? I'm mostly peaceful. I don't know why I am attacked for this.

The other day I posted 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 on my story, and someone in the other GC I was in attacked me for this. Called me a hypocrite. I am a hypocrite, I admit that fully and it is totally my fault. I'm still working on it.

Thing is, I have a couple homosexual friends in that chat, some bisexual as well. And some Muslim and spiritual. I know I have to tell the truth to them but they attacked me so much, called me stupid and a donkey, a fool, hypocrite, all sorts of nasty stuff. I apologized but they still attacked me. I had to leave.

I was very hurt. Why must I be attacked like this? I don't try to hurt anyone. One GC that I was in, I got kicked bc I was "too nice". What? How? Shall I stop being nice?

I just want to die. I don't want to be here. Nothing I do is EVER good enough for anybody, not even for me.

Why must I be hurt and mocked and laughed at like this?

Should I post the screenshots of the first convo here so you guys can see?

I don't get mad or offended but pity these sorts. I was one of them until God opened my eyes. They also have plenty of evidence to base their ridicule on if you look at what passes for Christianity today.

Skittles · May 5, 2020

I’d echo Richard Ts quote of John 15. Now you have an opportunity to sincerely pray for them and let go of any malice or anger you might feel towards them. The behavior you model with them can plant seeds for the Holy Spirit.

kvolm · May 6, 2020

boxman144 said:
I've been attacked today. Not physically, but verbally. Multiple times today, all because of my faith.

I was in a GC(group chat) on Instagram with some people, and someone said that all Christians should be crucified(supposedly it was a joke). Obviously, I detested this and said, "Hey, please don't say that. It's very disrespectful." And they went off on me. I'm talking like 6 people against me. All saying derogatory things against me for like an hour or 2. And you know what I said? Nothing rude, at all. I just kept saying, "All I'm asking is that you please don't say it again." That's mostly what I was saying.

And they kept on attacking me, saying rude things about the Trinity that make me sick. One of them said they'll rape Jesus and I almost puked. And I said "Prayers and blessings to you"

One of them said if all Christians were crucified, the world would be a better place. Its so disgusting. They kept calling me soft, a snowflake, a baby, whiner, and all sorts of stuff I cannot say here.

And one of them said "I'll take your and shove it down your throat".

I felt so sad. So very sad. Why must I adamantly be attacked for my faith? I'm mostly peaceful. I don't know why I am attacked for this.

The other day I posted 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 on my story, and someone in the other GC I was in attacked me for this. Called me a hypocrite. I am a hypocrite, I admit that fully and it is totally my fault. I'm still working on it.

Thing is, I have a couple homosexual friends in that chat, some bisexual as well. And some Muslim and spiritual. I know I have to tell the truth to them but they attacked me so much, called me stupid and a donkey, a fool, hypocrite, all sorts of nasty stuff. I apologized but they still attacked me. I had to leave.

I was very hurt. Why must I be attacked like this? I don't try to hurt anyone. One GC that I was in, I got kicked bc I was "too nice". What? How? Shall I stop being nice?

I just want to die. I don't want to be here. Nothing I do is EVER good enough for anybody, not even for me.

Why must I be hurt and mocked and laughed at like this?

Should I post the screenshots of the first convo here so you guys can see?

It is easy to throw around the word hypocrite and it is good that you admit that as Christ followers we certainly are hypocritical in many way despite our best intentions. But for me, someone making that claim is at least a reason for me to pause and examine my motives because in that situation something I have said or done has been offensive to them. So maybe as a starting point, can you identify what you did that was judged by them as hypocritical?

Junia · May 25, 2020

Richard T said:
You should be encouraged that Jesus tried to prepare us for this. At least you do not live in a nation where you can be physically harmed. (not yet anyway). Toughen yourself up and expect this if you are going to discuss such things. Let your speech be seasoned with grace as well. God bless!
John 15:18-21 (KJV)
18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

amen! this proves that you are of God- you are hated by the world.

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