Eucharist during the crisis

rturner76 said:

Has your parish found a way to give people The Eucharist?

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Yes, we had the Eucharist at the beginning of the month. The pastor was live streaming and let us know at the beginning of the service, we were advised to get some wine or juice and some crackers. So we had them with us and it was just like the normal service.

rturner76 said:

Has your parish found a way to give people The Eucharist? Mine is only having Livestream Mass and the doors are closed all day. Even the St Vincent De Paul programs are not open for the needy.

Hpw are you either receiving the Eucharist or coping without it?

Are we able to provide the sacrament to each other during a crisis like this where Mass is not accessible?

What are people doing in regard to Sacraments? Will they still have the Easter Vigil some places? If not, what will happen with the RCIA classes?

Any suggestions about how to cope without your Mass and devotion routines?

I didn't have anything like perfect attendance at Mass but it's like "don't know what you got till it's gone." I am missing communion especially.

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Nope, no Eucharist since my bishop suspended Masses. My priests are still doing confession by appointment but no public Masses, hopefully Bishop Soto reinstates them soon as things start to reopen. It's been over a month since I've received the Blessed Sacrament.

I think I'm okay, I would love to receive it but I also understand that it's actually a recent development in Church history (as in, the past 120 years) that the faithful began receiving more regularly. The Poor Clares only receive six times a year, King St. Louis IX typically received only once per year and argued with his priest when the priest tried to administer extreme unction on the King's deathbed. Those were more the norms in the first 1,900 years of Catholicism than anything else.

I myself have gone for weeks or months at a time without receiving just because I'm worried I'll start taking it for granted - but that's a personal choice, not any sort of mandate or anything. That being said, I do think there's a tendency to trivialize the Blessed Sacrament when we're able to take it once a week or more, and it may lead to mortal sin (i.e. receiving when a person's not in a state of sanctifying grace) and sacrilege.

trad catholic said:

I am assuming you are all novus ordo Catholics, if not please correct me, when I used to belong to the novus ordo sect I received communion in the hand and it was sometimes the priest and sometimes a neighbor, horrible.

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I mean I am, but not by choice. If I had a TLM <100 miles away I'd go to that, it's all I've been streaming during the lockdown. But the nearest one is a two hour drive that I can't afford to make.

trad catholic said:

The traditional Catholic Church never gave communiion in the hand, it was always the priest. You should reject the novus ordo and convert to the Catholic faith.

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Look I'll be the first to say I don't care for the NO Mass, but it's a valid Mass. Many of us receive Holy Communion on the tongue and many of us are against/reject EMHCs.

But you can't come in here and say we're not Catholics because we attend a NO, that's a violation of the Congregational Forum Rules and the sitewide rules.

Has your parish found a way to give people The Eucharist? Mine is only having Livestream Mass and the doors are closed all day. Even the St Vincent De Paul programs are not open for the needy.

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No. Our parish is observing the local bishop's order (like most) to suspend just about everything except in danger of death. Happily, the St. Vincent de Paul program is still up and running, but they have to take many precautions.

How are you either receiving the Eucharist or coping without it?

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There's a good question! At present I am not able to receive either the Eucharist or Confession, both of which I very sorely miss. Yet, God has been good in providing graces in the absence of the usual methods, at least in my experience. I try to make acts of contrition and spiritual communions, both of which are highly recommended by the Church as useful substitutes in a time like this.

What are people doing in regard to Sacraments? Will they still have the Easter Vigil some places? If not, what will happen with the RCIA classes?

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In our diocese, the catechumens and candidates will be received at Pentecost (which is a good time to receive them, historically and theologically...albeit not ideal).

Any suggestions about how to cope without your Mass and devotion routines?

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Acts of spiritual communion and contrition are extremely useful and important in times like this. Additionally, obedience to the Bishop's directives in our individual dioceses is important to our spiritual health (1 Samuel 15:22; Proverbs 21:3).

I didn't have anything like perfect attendance at Mass but it's like "don't know what you got till it's gone." I am missing communion especially.

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My feelings exactly! I really hear you on that one. I suspect after this I will have a hard time taking the sacraments for granted ever again...so that's a good thing to come out of this. I'm sure God has many better things He will make out of this difficult situation.

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You would be committing a sweeping generalization fallacy if you automatically assumed anyone who attends a Novus Ordo also violates some Church teaching. There are plenty of Catholics who are not only entirely faithful to the Church and her teachings, but militantly support them and advocate that others follow them as well.

No contraception, no premarital sex, no female clergy, no abortion, etc etc.

There are even Novus Ordo folks (like myself) who prefer and recommend the Roman Catechism (1566) and the Baltimore Catechism, we like it when our priests wear cassocks and saturnos, we go to parishes with perpetual adoration and Eucharistic processions...

Not every Novus Ordo parish is a spaceship in the suburbs with felt banners, liturgical dance and James Martin.

Please folk - do not let this thread descend into a discussion as to one form of the Mass being compared with another.

rturner76 said:

Has your parish found a way to give people The Eucharist?

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Mine has. We are a parish of nine or so (we only have four in any Mass) and my Priest has the Bishop's permission to get the Communion cups that have the bread and wine wrapped up and sealed to give to us. He was going to leave them at our door and as going to instruct us in the proper way of respect for the Body and Blood. Since I am a sub deacon unofficially and do all the tech we have thought about meeting in our chapel and partake of the Holy Eucharist with no touching or anything and from the sealed cups. Right now my Priest is seeking permission from the Bishop and the Church we rent from. I am excited and see hope for the first time in months or since this all began.

It's funny, we have already practiced social distancing. Two of the people sit on the lest side in the front and we sit in the back so we are about 20 feet apart all the time before this all began

rturner76 said:

How are you either receiving the Eucharist or coping without it?

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I am not coping well at all, I lash out here in the political forum and had no peace until today for some reason, right now I feel at piece

rturner76 said:

Is the decision when and what to offer in the hands of the diocese or the individual Parish Priest? I haven't read much about it because there is so much misinformation out there I am to the point where I ignore just about everything I hear/read about it except the social distancing. I still watch to see if that's still in effect.

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The bishops have been making that call. First most of them suspended the Sunday obligation for the elderly, then they suspended the obligation for everyone, then a week later they suspended public Masses altogether.

Some bishops have even gone so far as to prohibit priests from administering emergency sacraments like Extreme Unction and Baptism, which is offensive at best because they're effectively denying salvation to people who may be dying. Luckily there are priests who are obedient to their vows and their vocation and offering those Sacraments anyway.

trad catholic said:

the overwhelming number of novus ordo catholics practice contraception, are you disputing this? question , those who practice contraception, can they make it to heaven?

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Nope I'm not disputing it. Reread my post, I said you can't say that all of us who attend the Novus Ordo also violate Church teachings and then I illustrated that there are plenty of Novus Ordo Catholics who don't just follow the teachings but also demand other Novus Ordo Catholics do as well.

Correlation does not equal causation. The cause is fifty years of bad catechesis spanning multiple generations. That's why so many Catholics don't believe what the Church teaches on the Eucharist, abortion, marriage, premarital sex, the death penalty, holy orders, or any number of other things.

charsan said:

Mine has. We are a parish of nine or so (we only have four in any Mass) and my Priest has the Bishop's permission to get the Communion cups that have the bread and wine wrapped up and sealed to give to us. He was going to leave them at our door and as going to instruct us in the proper way of respect for the Body and Blood. Since I am a sub deacon unofficially and do all the tech we have thought about meeting in our chapel and partake of the Holy Eucharist with no touching or anything and from the sealed cups. Right now my Priest is seeking permission from the Bishop and the Church we rent from. I am excited and see hope for the first time in months or since this all began.

It's funny, we have already practiced social distancing. Two of the people sit on the lest side in the front and we sit in the back so we are about 20 feet apart all the time before this all began

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Whoa is that a rural parish? It's so small. I can see why your bishop OK'ed you guys, I think you still fall well below the "group gathering" limits.

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