The rapture deception

You did this last week already. It looks basically like a copy paste.

BlessedCreator said:

John 6:39
And this is the Fathers will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose
nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

The word is clear, the resurrection happens on the LAST DAY.
Therefore the rapture also happens on the last day.

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You seem confused about when the 'Last Day' happens.
It isn't until the end of the Millennium, that everyone who has ever lived, will be raised to stand before God on His Great White Throne. THAT is the actual LAST DAY. Job 19:25

Also you don't say where those who remain, as per 1 Thess 4:16-17: go to.
Verse 16 clearly states; Jesus has descended from heaven, and He gathers His people, as Matthew 24:30-31 confirms. They meet Jesus in the clouds, then are with Him IN JERUSALEM, for the Millennium.
Going to live in heaven is impossible as Jesus says; John 3:13, John 17:15, +

BlessedCreator said:

The rapture doctrine comes from 1 Thessalonians Chapter 4 Verse 17.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with
the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet
the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

I will tell you why I included verse 16 in a moment.

The catching up together of those who are alive when the Lord returns, that is the rapture.
So we see there will indeed be a rapture. The controversy with the rapture is not a matter of whether it
is real or not. The controversy is over the timing.

Some are teaching that the rapture happens before the Lord
returns at the very end.
They teach that Christians are getting a special get out of persecution free card to leave this world early.
This is completely wrong and I will show you why it is such a dangerous doctrine to believe.

Let's look at the verses again and see if they can give us any information regarding the timing of the rapture.
In verse 16 we see the Lord returns and at that time the dead in Christ shall rise first. This is important.
The dead in Christ rise first. Then going directly to the next words in verse 17 it says "then". Then meaning
after what just preceded. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together.

What does this mean?
This tells us the resurrection happens first and THEN the rapture happens.
Why is this important?
Because if we can figure out when the resurrection happens then we can know
exactly when the rapture happens because it takes place right after.

Thankfully God is not the author of confusion and has not left us without sound doctrine so that
we are not left in the dark concerning these things.
The Bible tells us 5 different times in the gospel of John when the resurrection takes place.

John 11:24
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

John 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:40
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on
him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:39
And this is the Fathers will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose
nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

The word is clear, the resurrection happens on the LAST DAY.
Therefore the rapture also happens on the last day.

If you are expecting the true messiah Jesus Christ to return before the very end to save
you from the persecution of the Antichrist and his wicked followers then you are actually going to get
the false messiah/Antichrist who comes to deceive the world into believing that he is God.

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away
first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Christians have been martyred (killed for their faith) the last 2000 years since Christ came.
They are being martyred now, even openly in eastern countries. And we will continue to be martyred until the very end.
Few will survive to take part in the rapture. Nobody is getting an escape card in these last days.

It is our duty as Christians to share the truth (edify) with our brothers and sisters.
There are many that are deceived by this false doctrine, prepared to receive the coming Antichrist.
Please share with them what you have just learned.

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If so, what would be the purpose of the rapture being anywhere in the bible?

Keras: You seem confused about when the 'Last Day' happens. It isn't until the end of the Millennium, that everyone who has ever lived, will be raised to stand before God on His Great White Throne. THAT is the actual LAST DAY. Job 19:25


JL: [Job19:25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:]k

Christ stood and walked upon the earth 33 years ushering in the latter days.

[Acts2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:]k


Keras: Also you don't say where those who remain, as per 1 Thess 4:16-17: go to.


JL: [1Thes4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive[/b] and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.]k

Those unsaved who remain on earth still alive are described below in Rv6.

[Rv6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?]k

[2Pt3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 1 3 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.] k

[Rv20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.] k

Keras: Verse 16 clearly states; Jesus has descended from heaven, and He gathers His people, as Matthew 24:30-31 confirms. They meet Jesus in the clouds, then are with Him IN JERUSALEM, for the Millennium.

JL: [Rv21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.] k

Heaven and earth will be united, God with us.

Keras: Going to live in heaven is impossible as Jesus says; John 3:13, John 17:15,


JL: Jn3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

As God Christ ascended of his own power into heaven. No man has nor ever will ascended into heaven by their own power, they can be assumed into heaven by God’s power, nothing is impossible with God.

[2Kgs2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.]

Douggg said:

If so, what would be the purpose of the rapture being anywhere in the bible?

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JL: To remove His people before the old universe and earth are destroyed by God's wrath.

[2Pt3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 1 3 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.] k

JLHargus said:

Christ stood and walked upon the earth 33 years ushering in the latter days.

[Acts2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:]k

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The prophecy of Joel 2:28-32 remains unfulfilled.
The actual last day cannot be other that the final Day, when God Judges everyone. Revelation 20:11-15

JLHargus said:

JL: [1Thes4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive[/b] and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.]k

Those unsaved who remain on earth still alive are described below in Rv6.

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This scripture does NOT say that anyone will go to heaven. It is just the gathering of the Lords faithful people at His Return, as Matthew 24:30-31 says.
Your quote of Rev 21, confuses the Return with what happens after the 1000 years is over.

JLHargus said:

As God Christ ascended of his own power into heaven. No man has nor ever will ascended into heaven by their own power, they can be assumed into heaven by God’s power, nothing is impossible with God.

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But NOWHERE dose the Bible say that God will take people to live in heaven. Only the 2 Witnesses and they get killed first.
Unless you can provide a scripture that actually says that God will remove His Church from the earth, I will continue to call the 'rapture' theory a false teaching.

keras said:

The prophecy of Joel 2:28-32 remains unfulfilled.
The actual last day cannot be other that the final Day, when God Judges everyone. Revelation 20:11-15

This scripture does NOT say that anyone will go to heaven. It is just the gathering of the Lords faithful people at His Return, as Matthew 24:30-31 says.
Your quote of Rev 21, confuses the Return with what happens after the 1000 years is over.

But NOWHERE dose the Bible say that God will take people to live in heaven. Only the 2 Witnesses and they get killed first.
Unless you can provide a scripture that actually says that God will remove His Church from the earth, I will continue to call the 'rapture' theory a false teaching.

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That is the whole point of my post the rapture theory is a false teaching. When Christians are caught up to the Lord, that will be the end of time=last day with the final judgment. So shall we ever be with the Lord on the new regenerated earth and heaven=universe. God will dwell with us=heaven.

Jesus the Son of God and Son of David will sit on the throne of His glory, the regenerated kingdom of David, the Israel of God, Gal6:16, and of His kingdom there shall be no end. This is a long time after the two witness. Their taking up brought about the defeat of anti-Christ and a period of peace, till Satan is released and the final battle between good and evil.

[1Thes417 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

I think we are both talking passed one another.

BlessedCreator said:

Christians have been martyred (killed for their faith) the last 2000 years since Christ came. They are being martyred now, even openly in eastern countries. And we will continue to be martyred until the very end. Few will survive to take part in the rapture. Nobody is getting an escape card in these last days.
It is our duty as Christians to share the truth (edify) with our brothers and sisters.
There are many that are deceived by this false doctrine, prepared to receive the coming Antichrist.
Please share with them what you have just learned.

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Excellent.
Escape:

Daniel 12:1 "And in that time/season Michael shall stand-up, the great chief prince, the one standing over sons of thy people.
And becomes a time of distress, which not occurred since to become of a nation until that time. And in that time, thy people shall escape, everyone being found written in the scroll. [Luke 21:23-36]

Luke 21:23 “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people.
36 “Yet be being vigilant/watching in every season, beseeching that ye should be being strong to be escaping all these, the being about to be becoming, and to stand before the Son of the Man.

1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.

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JLHargus said:

[1Thes417 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

I think we are both talking passed one another.

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Good that you don't believe in the 'rapture to heaven' fable.

But your thinking that 1 Thess 4:17 is the final day and heaven is on earth then, is not right. It isn't until after the 1000 year reign of Jesus, that the new Jerusalem comes to a regenerated earth and God Himself will dwell with mankind. Revelation 21:1-7

I see Pauls prophecy as paralleled by Matthew 24:30-31, when Jesus Returns and gathers His people to Him, in Jerusalem. A horizontal relocation, as what happened to Philip. Acts 8:39

Keras: Good that you don't believe in the 'rapture to heaven' fable. But your thinking that 1 Thess 4:17 is the final day and heaven is on earth then, is not right. It isn't until after the 1000 year reign of Jesus, that the new Jerusalem comes to a regenerated earth and God Himself will dwell with mankind. Revelation 21:1-7

I see Pauls prophecy as paralleled by Matthew 24:30-31, when Jesus Returns and gathers His people to Him, in Jerusalem. A horizontal relocation, as what happened to Philip. Acts 8:39


JL: I agree 1Thes4 and Mt24 are the same event. But in Mt24 Christ is condensing two prophecies. One is His coming at the end of time. Second God’s judgment on that generation of Israel for rejecting the Messiah. Resulting in the end of the Jewish world=universe, with the end of the Old Covenant and destruction of the OT Temple in 70AD by the Romans. [Mt24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.]k

Yes, I see the last day as 1Thes4:1-17, I see no evidence of Christ every ruling on the present earth. I see you hold Christ will literally be physically present on this present earth ruling, in earthly Jerusalem, for a thousand years.

Could you enlighten me with scripture for that? Also, what is His purpose being present on the old earth, will Christ be present in all His glory, or will he once again have to empty Himself as when He came the first time? Will He still have a glorified body?

I am guessing you, I know some do, hold the earthly temple will be rebuilt and animal sacrifices done, with Christ present or in His palace next door for a thousand years. I can’t think of anything more offensive to the Lord. It would be a total rejection of His sacrifice on the cross with an Aaronic priesthood offering OT sacrifices.


Keras: I see Pauls prophecy as paralleled by Matthew 24:30-31, when Jesus Returns and gathers His people to Him, in Jerusalem. A horizontal relocation, as what happened to Philip. Acts 8:39

JL: [Acts8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.]

I can only assume you view the resurrected will be gathered in earthly Jerusalem for a thousand years to preach to the unsaved as Philip did.

So, for a thousand years those resurrected people with glorified bodies will live on this same old earth. Side by side with those who were not caught up to Christ because of sin.

Will they still have children? Will they marry or get divorced? Can they be lost, if not why? Will they have to get jobs going through the same old things they did before they died. What is the point?

JLHargus said:

Yes, I see the last day as 1Thes4:1-17, I see no evidence of Christ every ruling on the present earth. I see you hold Christ will literally be physically present on this present earth ruling, in earthly Jerusalem, for a thousand years.

Could you enlighten me with scripture for that? Also, what is His purpose being present on the old earth, will Christ be present in all His glory, or will he once again have to empty Himself as when He came the first time? Will He still have a glorified body?

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1 Thess 4:15-17 is a prophecy about the Return of Jesus. He came first as a servant, next time as a ruler over the nations. Psalms 2:7-9, Psalms 110:1-2, Revelation 17:14, +
Jesus will have an immortal body, He is the Firstfruits of the Resurrection. But no one else, not until the end of the Millennium, when the Book of Life will be opened. Revelation 20:11-15

JLHargus said:

I am guessing you, I know some do, hold the earthly temple will be rebuilt and animal sacrifices done, with Christ present or in His palace next door for a thousand years. I can’t think of anything more offensive to the Lord. It would be a total rejection of His sacrifice on the cross with an Aaronic priesthood offering OT sacrifices.

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We do not have the Mind of God, His way are not our ways.
So to object to sacrifices is just human thinking, something we wouldn't do, but God wanted sacrifices before and Bible prophecy clearly says; He will require it again. Isaiah 56:8, Ezekiel 20:40-41, and Daniel 9:27 proves they will be reinstated.

JLHargus said:

I can only assume you view the resurrected will be gathered in earthly Jerusalem for a thousand years to preach to the unsaved as Philip did.

So, for a thousand years those resurrected people with glorified bodies will live on this same old earth. Side by side with those who were not caught up to Christ because of sin.

Will they still have children? Will they marry or get divorced? Can they be lost, if not why? Will they have to get jobs going through the same old things they did before they died. What is the point?

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Wrong assumption.
The only ones brought back to life, when Jesus Returns; will be the Tribulation martyrs. Revelation 20:4 could not be clearer. ALL the rest of the dead await the GWT Judgment, after the Millennium. Verse 5

The world will simply continue on as it always has, albeit with benevolent world Ruler and no godless people. Until near the end, when Satan will be released and will again seduce many people to rebel against Jesus. Their; and Satan's fate is described in Revelation 20:15

Keras: 1 Thess 4:15-17 is a prophecy about the Return of Jesus. He came first as a servant, next time as a ruler over the nations. Psalms 2:7-9, Psalms 110:1-2, Revelation 17:14, +

JL: Yes, He came first as a man=servant, He will return=come again a second time=final time, as King of Kings, Lord of Lords, to judge the living and the dead at the end of time. There will be a new earth. New Jerusalem=bride of Christ =Church= regenerated Davidic kingdom=the spiritual Israel of God, Gal6:16, will come down from Heaven. God will dwell with His people and of His kingdom there will be no end.

[Lk19:11 And as they heard these things, [he] added and [spake a parable], because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because [they thought] that [the kingdom] of God [should immediately appear]. 12 [He said] therefore, [A] certain [nobleman went into a far country to receive] for himself [a kingdom, and] to [return].]k

Christ, the Son of David, went to a far country, to mount Sion, to the city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem to be enthroned and receive His kingdom=regenerated kingdom of David, the Israel of God, Gal6:16. Being enthroned after ascending into heaven, from which Christ the king will return.

[Hb12:22 But [ye are come unto mount Sion], and unto the [city of the living God], the [heavenly Jerusalem], and [to] an [innumerable] company of [angels], 23 [To] the general assembly and [church of the firstborn], which are [written in heaven[], and [to God the Judge] of all, and [to the spirits of just men made perfect], 24 And [to Jesus the mediator] of the new covenant, and [to the blood of sprinkling], that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

In heaven He rules the kingdom in full bloom in heaven and seed form on earth. Ruling as king with His saints in heaven. [Rv3:4 And [round about the throne] were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw [four and twenty elders] sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had [on their heads crowns of gold].]k

Ruling on earth through the Church by the Holy Spirit and those ministers He appointed to scatter the seed and grow the kingdom on earth, Mt16:16-19. [Hb13:17 [Obey them that] have the [rule over you], and [submit] yourselves: for [they watch for your souls], as [they] that [must give account], that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.]k

After the last judgment there will be a new earth and universe, upon which heavenly Jerusalem will come down from heaven and God=Jesus, the Son of David, will dwell with His people and that regenerated kingdom of David will have no end.

[Jer33:16 [In those days] shall [Judah] be [saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely]: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness. 17 For thus saith the Lord; [David shall never want a man[/b] to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel];]k

[Col1:12 Giving [thanks unto the Father, which] hath [made us] meet to be [partakers of the inheritance] of the saints in light: 13 Who hath [delivered us from] the power of [darkness], and hath [translated us into the kingdom] of his dear Son:]k

[Rv20:11 And [I saw a great white throne], and [him that sat on it], from [whose face the earth and the heaven fled away]; and [there was found no place for them]. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and [the dead were judged] out of those things which were written in the books, [according to their works].]k

[1Thes4:14 For if [we believe] that [Jesus died] and [rose] again, [even so them] also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.]

According to 1Thes4:16, not some but ALL the dead in Christ are resurrected. That would be from Adam through those alive at His coming. This is the last day, those in Christ will ever be with the Lord.
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Keras: Jesus will have an immortal body, He is the Firstfruits of the Resurrection. But no one else, not until the end of the Millennium, when the Book of Life will be opened. Revelation 20:11-15

JL: Jesus has had an immortal and glorified body since He rose from the dead, as will all the resurrected in Christ. Jesus in heaven also has the same glory he had before He emptied himself and became man.

[Jn17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.]

Will Jesus again empty Himself of His glory to rule physically on this present sinful earth for 1000 years? What is the purpose of Christ=God physically ruling for 1000 years on this old sinful earth?

Keras: Jesus will have an immortal body, Firstfruits of the Resurrection. But no one else, not until the end of the Millennium.

JL: If only Christ has an immortal body. That means those you claim are resurrected only have mortal bodies, instead of resurrected glorified bodies. That means they were not resurrected but resuscitated =revived or reconstituted with the exact same body they were born with. Therefore, they will die again and are prone to temptation, sin and lose of salvation as any human being living on this present sinful earth.

I am not trying to be difficult but hopefully helpful. If not raised immortal that rules out ruling on earth with Christ for 1000 years. Also, if they were resurrected it would mean their souls would have first been enjoying heaven before they were resurrected. Seems to me their resurrection would be a punishment, not a blessing.

[1Cor15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.]k

Keras: We do not have the Mind of God, His way are not our ways. So to object to sacrifices is just human thinking, something we wouldn't do, but God wanted sacrifices before and Bible prophecy clearly says; He will require it again. Isaiah 56:8, Ezekiel 20:40-41, and Daniel 9:27 proves they will be reinstated.

JL: [Hb10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:]k

[Hb6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.]k

Hb6 is speaking of Jewish Christians who fell away, apostatized, returning to OT Judaism. Once again placing their salvation in circumcision and animal sacrifice. They crucify Christ afresh. How much more offensive would crucifying Him, with animal sacrifices, while He is physically present. Knowing he is the Messiah, and at that point knowing He is God in the flesh, once crucified to bring salvation and forgiveness of sins to all with the new covenant?

[Hb8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.]k

All those OT sacrifices were a foreshadowing of, and fulfilled in Christ’s once for all sacrifice. His sacrifice actually takes away sin. There is only one sacrifice Christ gave His Church the Eucharistic=thanksgiving, memorial sacrifice, making present the fruit of that once for all sacrifice, not a re-sacrificing of Christ. This is the sacrifice the antichrist will stop and drive underground in the tribulation, we call it the sacrifice of the mass.

There will be no other temple, made by hands, as an habitation for God. It is Christ who is building the Temple=Church= regenerated Davidic Kingdom of God=New Jerusalem, an habitation for God with living stones from which living water=Holy Spirit will flow. And from which the only acceptable sacrifice is offered everywhere from the raising to the setting of the sun.

[Hb9:8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: 9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; 10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. 11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.]k
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Keras: The only ones brought back to life, when Jesus Returns; will be the Tribulation martyrs. Revelation 20:4 could not be clearer. ALL the rest of the dead await the GWT Judgment, after the Millennium. Verse 5

JL: We know for sure the two witnesses are resurrected and taken up body and soul into heaven, Rv11:11-12. No matter who or how many are resurrected they are in heaven not on earth.

[Rv6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?]k

Christ nor any resurrected glorified saint will live on this present old corrupted earth, but only on the new regenerated earth prepared for regenerated glorified bodies. Christ clearly tells us His kingdom is not of this world. Although it is in the world, in seed form in the Church, scattering the seed of the kingdom throughout the world till the end.

Keras: The world will simply continue on as it always has, albeit with benevolent world Ruler and no godless people. Until near the end, when Satan will be released and will again seduce many people to rebel against Jesus. Their; and Satan's fate is described in Revelation 20:15

JL: I partially agree after the tribulation, the world will continue as always, another reason Christ will not be physically ruling on this sinful earth. There will be a time of peace and grace for humanity. Many will come to believe, especially among natural Israel. Yet, there will still be sin and those who do not believe. That will increase once Satan is released and the final battle at the end of time when Christ returns and the last judgment, Rv20:15.

Again Christ rules on earth through the apostles He appointed and sent promising them the Holy Spirit to guide them into all truth, [Jn16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.]k

The apostles appointed and sent others, who appoint others in an unbroken line till the end of time, we call it apostolic succession.

[2Tm1:6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands. 7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.]k

[Titus1:5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: 6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. 7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;]k

[Hb13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken] unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation. 8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.]k

[Hb13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.]k

[Lk22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; 30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: 32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.]k
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JL: Jesus has had an immortal and glorified body since He rose from the dead, as will all the resurrected in Christ.

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It seems from 1 Thessalonians 4:14, that all the Christians will Return with Jesus.
However this is wrong as Revelation 20:4 makes it quite clear that the only souls Jesus will bring with Him are those of the Tribulation martyrs.
Proved by how even Daniel 12:13, and all the OT saints await the end of the Millennium, along with everyone who has ever lived, to stand before God in Judgment. Revelation 20:11-15, John 11:24
ONLY then, will immortality be conferred on those whose names are in the Book of Life.
Why do you deny this?