(6) The Sola Scriptura position casts unacceptably dark shadows on God’s character, because it consigns Christians to rely on exegesis – essentially play guessing games – even on life-and-death decisions. For example we are told not to expect a Direct Revelation providing us a feeling of 100% certainty whether dropping a bomb on Hiroshima (which killed 200,000 people) is the morally right thing to do. But far more than that. 100 billion have lived and died since the world began. Here too, we have to play guessing games about the most effective way to reach them with the gospel.
There is no guessing games dear friend for those who believe and follow God's Word and prayerfully seek God through His Word and want to know what Gods' truth is. In fact God promises those who rely on His Word to be their guide and teacher here *JOHN 14:26; JOHN 16:13; JOHN 7:17; JOHN 8:31-36; 1 JOHN 5:3. This is a part of the new covenant promise to all those who believe and follow God's Word as shown in HEBREWS 8:10-11.
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(7) With 100 billion souls at stake, the primacy of Direct Revelation is the correct stance. Even if I’m wrong about this theory, I’m still right about it. How so? Because with so much at stake, I need to feel 100% certain about whether I’m right or wrong about the theory, in order to conduct evangelism responsibly. Exegesis is a fallible science that cannot hope to achieve 100% certainty. The pursuit of Direct Revelation is thus the correct stance no matter which religion turns out to be the true one, and thus does not need any biblical support to establish itself as correct. Paul placed superlative emphasis on Direct Revelation when he commanded, ‘Eagerly desire spiritual things, especially the gift of prophecy” (1Cor 14:1). In fact the NT defines evangelism as prophetic utterance (
see post 179 on another thread,
and post 180), for only an irresponsible/negligent God would entrust the evangelism of 100 billion souls to humanly fallible approaches.
Your theory is wrong as shown through the scriptures already as our salvation is by God's GRACE
THROUGH FAITH *EPEHSANS 2:8-9; JOHN 3:16-21 etc. There is actually too many scriptures here that disagree with your teachings for example EPHESIANS 1:13 In whom you also trusted, AFTER THE YOU HEARD
THE WORD OF TRUTH, THE GOSPEL OF YOUR SALVATION: in whom also after that you believed, you were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise. We are told in the scriptures that we are saved by God's GRACE THROUGH FAITH.. *EPHESIANS 2:8. Now if our salvation and conversion is by BELIEVING God's Word and faith comes by hearing and hearing comes only by the Word of God *ROMANS 10:17. How can you have conversion when there is no Word?
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(8) It would be irresponsible/negligent of God to confine us to religious documents tainted by man-made opinions. And yet that is precisely what Sola Scriptura entails. In order to learn Greek and Hebrew, for example, I have to learn it from a man-made Lexicon. As the efficacious Voice of God, only Direct Revelation can hope to achieve full insulation from the opinions of men. Here’s another example of the man-made taint. Exegesis is an application of human reason and human scholarship in an effort to construct proofs of what the biblical text does or does not say. All proofs, however, are built on top of assumptions that, in turn, need to be proven. This leads to an infinite regress of unproven assumptions. The only way to break out of this infinite loop is to provisionally stipulate some man-made presumptions hoping the readers will concur. And that is precisely how all exegesis proceeds.
Your starting off point 8 with a false premise. The bible is not a religous document tainted by man made opinions. The scriptures teach that ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness *2 TIMOTHY 3:16. Everything else falls down from here because your building on a false premise that is not biblical. You also deny God's promises to those who seek him to know the truth of His Word in JOHN 14:26; JOHN 16:13; 1 JOHN 2:27; JOHN 8:31-32; JOHN 7:17.
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(9) The Sola Scriptura party prioritizes scholarship over the Voice, contrary to human purpose. God did not create us out of a need for Bible scholars. He created us to fellowship with us – to speak with us.
Actually this is another false premise. God's Word alone teaches that "IF ANY MAN WILLS TO DO HIS (God's) WILL HE SHALL KNOW OF THE DOCTRINE IF IT BE OF GOD OR NOT *JOHN 7:17; These promises of course are conditional on seeking God with all of your heart *JEREMIAH 29:13, asking God to be your guide and teacher *JOHN 14:26; and believing his promises *HEBREWS 11:6; JOHN 16:13 and continuing to in God's Word *JOHN 8:31-32. God speaks with us through His Word *JOHN 6:63.
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(10) Jesus made it clear that exegesis is an inferior revelator of truth. How so? If exegesis were superior to Direct Revelation, then Bible scholars would unfold all the mysteries of Scripture while leaving the prophets stranded in cognitive darkness by comparison. This is an exact reversal of the actual state of affairs. Jesus put it like this: “Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned [the bible scholars], and revealed them unto babes.” Christ’s words are far more than just an abstract advisory – it was His actual experience. By virtue of Direct Revelation, Christ’s understanding of the Scriptures utterly dwarfed that of the Sola Scriptura parties of His day (the Pharisees, Sadducees, and the teachers of the law).“Revealed them unto babes.” A babe accepts a message from his father because he feels certain about his father’s voice, not because he is scholarly enough to evaluate the veracity of the message, or “test it against Scripture”.
This one is also buiding on faulty foundations. As the scriptures define Gods' Word as TRUTH in JOHN 7:17 SANCTIFY THEM THROUGH THE TRUTH; THY WORD IS TRUTH. God was revealing the truth of the
WORDS of JESUS to those who would receive them. How do you think these babes received the truth if it was not through the very Words of JESUS who is the living Word of God *JOHN 1:1-4; 14?
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(11) There is no clear evidence for the primacy of “testing it against Scripture”. For example there is no proof that the Bereans examined the Scriptures without recourse to the Light of the Holy Spirit (Direct Revelation). And the argument based on 2 Tim 3:16-17 is saddled with difficulties. For example it says “profitable” rather than sufficient. It is directed to a “man of God” (Timothy) which is a phrase strongly intimating prophethood. And it’s not even clear in what sense “profitable” – in my view Scripture is profitable precisely in the sense of pointing to us toward Direct Revelation. On the contrary, the “testing of the spirits” simply involves checking whether they agree or disagree with things taught by the Spirit via the Voice of Direct Revelation – that is the upshot of passages such as John 16:12-15 and 1John 2:20-22 and 1John 2:26-28. Note there is no mention of biblical exegesis in these passages, as the test. Only the anointing is mentioned.
Your premise again is faulty. You state here "
there is no clear evidence for the primacy of testing it against the scriptures" which is not biblical as the scriptures teach "TO THE LAW AND THE TESTIMONY IF THEY SPEAK NOT ACCORDING TO
THIS WORD THERE IS NO TRUTH IN THEM" ISAIAH 8:20 and again "HE THAT SAYS I KNOW HIM (GOD) IF AND KEEPS NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS (The Word) IS A LIAR AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM *1 JOHN 2:3-4. It is God's Word alone that defines the scriptures are TRUTH. "SANCTIFY THEM THROUGH THE TRUTH THY WORD IS TRUTH *JOHN 17:17 and again "THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU THEY ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE *JOHN 6:63. Your post here makes no sense. How can you test someone against the Spirit when the scriptures show that the Spirit is the Spirit of the WORD OF GOD *JOHN 6:63?
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(12) Paul’s definition of a church (and note that all subsequent definitions are man-made) envisions a church charismatically governed by recipients of Direct Revelation: “God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues” (1 Cor 12).
According to the sciptures the GREEK word for "CHURCH" is - G1577 ἐκκλησία; ekklēsia From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is, (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both): - assembly, church. God's church therefore are all those who believe and follow God's Word as the scriptures teach "WHERE TWO OF THREE ARE GATHERED TOGETHER IN MY NAME THERE I AM IN THE MIDST OF THEM" *MATTHEW 18:20. What you have posted above is not Pauls definition of Church. 1 CORINTHIANS 12 is about Spiritual gifts in the Church (those who believe and follow Gods' Word) and the different positions and roles within God's Church. Which once again is shown and directed by GOD'S WORD!
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(13) The inability of exegesis to provide 100% certainty casts yet another aspersion on God’s Fatherly character. If He isn’t willing to provide Direct Revelation to all of us, He is expecting us to perpetually labor in the gospel without hope of ever really being certain that we are propagating the true religion, or even being fully certain that we ourselves are saved. Some Father He is!
Your repeating your self here again and claiming things that are not biblical but simply your opinion. As shown in some previous points the scriptures teach that ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness *2 TIMOTHY 3:16. Everything else falls down from here because your building on a false premise that is not biblical. You also deny God's promises to those who seek him to know the truth of His Word in JOHN 14:26; JOHN 16:13; 1 JOHN 2:27; JOHN 8:31-32; JOHN 7:17.
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(14) A close analysis of the first epistle to the Corinthians strongly suggests an incredibly strict definition of spiritual maturity identifiable only with mature prophets. This epistle is prolific with references to Spirit-inspired speech such as prophecy and ascribes superlative revelation only to the mature, in keeping with Number 12:8-10. I have a thread on this epistle here. Relevant posts on that thread include: Post 7, and Post 33, and Post 46, and Post 47, and post 52, and post 58.
ISAIAH 28:9-13 [9], WHOM WILL HE TEACH KNOWLEDGE? AND WHOM WILL HE MAKE TO UNDERSTAND THE MESSAGE? THEM THAT ARE WEANED FROM THE MILK, AND DRAWN FROM THE BREASTS? [10],
FOR IT IS PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT, PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT; LINE UPON LINE, LINE UPON LINE; HERE A LITTLE, THERE A LITTLE. [11], Nay, but by men of strange lips and with another tongue will he speak to this people [12], to whom he said, This is the rest, give ye rest to him that is weary; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. [13], THEREFORE SHALL THE WORD OF JEHOVAH BE UNTO THEM PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT, PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT; LINE UPON LINE, LINE UPON LINE; HERE A LITTLE, THERE A LITTLE; THAT THEY MAY GO, AND FALL BACKWARD, AND BE BROKEN, AND SNARED, AND TAKEN.
The scriptures shown above prove that God teaches us knowledge through his Word. Being drawn from the breasts means those who accept God as their saviour from sin. Still do not believe?
HEBREWS 5:13 FOR EVERY ONE THAT PARTAKETH OF MILK IS
WITHOUT EXPERIENCE OF THE WORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS; for he is a babe. (see also HEBREWS 5:12;
These scriptures prove the "Spiritual Maturity" comes once again by the WORD OF GOD!
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(15) The new birth must be defined as a revelatory vision of Christ, albeit usually not very distinct ("loud and clear") in our immaturity, because the human mind, unable on its own to properly self-conceive a ineffably holy God, would only worship a conceptual idol (viz. the Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses who worship the 'God' of their exegesis but it's not the true God). This, said Vincent, is the "new vision of the new man. He sees not only God, but the kingdom of God" (Vincent’s Word Studies on John 3:5) because "the new birth imparts a new vision" (Ibid., on Jn 3:11). Gordon Fee rightly insisted that 2Cor 3:18 ascribes to all believers a direct beholding of Christ in the most literal sense. This is a vision that cannot be exegetically "tested against Scripture" for the reason already stated - the human mind cannot exegetically conceive an ineffably holy God.
Goodness what waffle. The new birth is not complicated if is a revelation of JESUS Christ through the scriptures as we BELIEVE and follow God's Word. The new birth is when we die to to walk in newness of life and happens when we choose to give our lives to Christ to believe and follow what God's Word says. As it is written in the scriptures. JOHN 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVES ON HIM (The WORD see JOHN 1:1-4; 14) SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE *JOHN 3:16 and again "WE ARE SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH..." EPHESIANS 2:8. If we are Born again we have receved God's forgiveness for our sins and are now free to walk in newness of life through God's Spirit *ROMANS 8:1-4; GALATIANS 5:16. That the righteousness of Gods LAW is fulfulled in those who believe and follow God's Word (ROMANS 8:4). Those who are born again no longer practice sin *1 JOHN 3:6-9. This is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:10. Everything shared here is revealed in Gods' Word in relation to the new birth from the WORD OF GOD *see JOHN 3:3-7; 1 JOHN 3:4-10; ROMANS 8:1-4; GALATIANS 5:16; ROMANS 6:1-23; HEBREWS 8:10-12; ROMANS 3:31 if you want the detail.
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(16) Witnessing is biblically defined as impromptu Spirit-inspired speech:"When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say,
12for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that time what you should say" (Luke 12). This flies in the face of the notion that a voice cannot be accepted until we "check it out with Scripture". Instead it confirms that if we feel certain enough about a revelation to proclaim it in good conscience, we can freely do so.
Witnessing is based on the good news of the Word of God. God's Spirit is the Spirit of the Word of God *JOHN 6:63. He is our guide and teacher that leads us to understand God's truth through his Word *JOHN 16:13 as we pray and ask God to teach us and guide us *JOHN 14:26. Gods' Spirit being the Spirit of the Word *JOHN 6:63 according to the scriptures works through God's Word not outside of it.
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The scriptures show dear friend your building your house on sifting sand. JESUS says in his very own words; "Every one that HEARETH THESE WORDS AND DOES THEM NOT, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand. The rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof *MATTHEW 7:26-27.
Your buiding your house on sifting sand dear friend and it has fallen over. Please cosider this as a help to you and a blessing and may God help you as you seek him through his Word.
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