One Law, One Custom, Forever

The Gospel of John, the I AM Gospel.
I Am>Hayah>Greek eimi .(not ego)
John 4:26. Saying unto her, Yahushua me I AM that speaks unto you.
John 6:20. And He said unto them me I AM, not to be afraid.
John 6:48. I, I AM that bread of Life.
John 7:29. I, and I know Him, for from Him I AM and He has sent me.
John 8:12. Again then Yahushua unto them spoke I AM the light of the world.
John 8:16. Yet whatever separated and my judgment my true is for alone not
I AM but I and sent me the Father.
John 8:18. Me I AM bear witness of myself and bearing witness of me sent me the Father.
John 8:23. And He said unto them you from beneath are I from above I AM you of this world are I not I AM of this world.
John 8:24. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I Am you will die in your sins.
John 8:28. Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I AM and I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
John 8:58. Jesus said to them, Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.
John 9:5. As long as I am in the world, I AM the light of the world.
John 10:7. Then Jesus said to them again, Most assuredly, I say to you, I AM the door of the sheep.
John 10:11. I AM the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.
John 10:36. Do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I AM the Son of God’?
John 11:25. Jesus said to her, I AM the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
John 13:13. You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I AM.
John 13:19. Now I tell you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe that I AM.
John 14:6. Jesus said to him, I AM the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
John 15:1. I AM the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.
John 18:6. Now when He said to them, I AM they drew back and fell to the ground.
Here is the power of THAT NAME. They asked for Yahushua of Nazareth as it were a common name. When He answered I AM, they had to fall on their face.
So why is power in the I AM? Because this speaks of the Divine Presence. When Yahushua exhaled I AM, the spirit in the man has to bow before the very presence of God. You can write a 500 page textbook on Hebrew and Greek alphabet and common personal names, but this is not to KNOW HIM. You do not want Him to say to you, 'Away with you, for I never knew you'. He is known in the Sanctuary, the secret place, 'the prayer closet'. Then you will come to know His Name. It will be IN you and you will manifest Him, and He will be glorified.

HARK! said:

Third time pretty much nothing.

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Nothing? They followed His orders! Then Peter drew a sword and hacked off an ear, and He replaced it.
When you say first time nothing, that is not even true. The narrative is interrupted to insert that Judas stood with them. Then returning to the flow of the narrative, when He said I AM he, then they drew back and fell to the ground.
And you would suggest that they were suddenly afraid, because they realized they stood before a criminal! That is a bizarre and totally fictional assertion. They were an fully armed band against the Lord and His closest disciples, with 2 swords.
He said I AM twice, once they fell to the ground, once they obeyed His command.
They fell before the Great I AM. What you have written is pretty much nothing.

HARK! said:

They were chased all night,

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Where do you read this? "they were chased all night", I think you are making that up. Was that in a movie? I know one lost a cloke escaping. Peter and John followed them.

HARK! said:

And one, a certain youth, was following with Him, clothed in a linen wrapper on his naked body, and the youths are holding him.

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Clearly, not one of His disciples, but a certain youth who was following Him. As to why they scattered, that is obvious. They were afraid! Their master was just arrested by an armed detachment. Peter tried to show courage and the Lord rebuked him, because none understood the moment did they?

HARK! said:

Escaping! You said it, not being set free, ESCAPING!

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You bet! It is called fear. But nothing to support that they were pursued. They had the one they came for, and you are ignoring this:
John 18:9. That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none. His command was fulfilling prophecy! You think?

HARK! said:

The CLV betrays me in many ways.

Bible translations are market driven. It's up to the believer to prove all things.

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I love Jeff Benner and although he is right all he has done is put into question every single translations on the market including every biblical quote you yourself have posted on CF not to mention his own translations as well. This comment alone is actually quite unproductive, Benner of course would point to his own work but who is he? a Hebrew Scholar? a Phd in some sort of Hebrew studies? a published Hebrew expert? He is actually is none of these and seems to be completely uncredentialed. This doesn't make his claims false but since they are so "left field" and have little overlap with modern understandings of the texts it does force us to question not just the translations as he suggests but Benner himself.

This is one reason why sticking to one translation is never a good idea as each translations (including the CLV) has it's own bias and will interpret words based on this bias. When we read a collection of translations we can get a broader understanding of what a word may mean in its original language. Each language has its limits and this includes Hebrew, God is not a Hebrew he only uses Hebrew to communicate to an ancient Hebrew context but it doesn't make the words more special than any other language and claiming it does is a pagan mindset. We don't worship words, these things have no power, we worship God that transcends all languages, people groups and cultures (etc..). Hebrew is difficult because it is an extremely concrete language where English is an extremely abstract language so we are going to approach the even base understandings completely different.

Benner himself tells us the Hebrew word for "Father" (strong #1) is from the Hebrew character Aleph and Bet. Aleph is the pictograph of an ox (in Paleo Hebrew) and Bet is a pictograph of a tent. Abstractly Aleph can be strength and Bet home so Benner tells us AB is the word for tent pole or literally the strength of the tent but he also informs us that abstractly it is also Father as the Father is the strength of the home. In English it is Father and although it has an etymological root I'm sure in practice it is an abstract word with no concrete meanings. I'm sure Benner was tempted to translate this word always as "tent pole" and although this allows us to enter into a more ancient world view or ancient Hebraic thought it actually may not communicate to us the meanings well because they are so foreign to us. Intensely literal translations like Benner's MT can tend to miss the forest through the trees and easier to read modern translations give us no depth. Benner himself however tells us his translation is not supposed to replace a translation and is there as a study aid.

But if you like Jeff Benner so much you should be quoting his Mechanical translation (at least for the parts he has published). So now what you have done is forced this conversation to be about why we choose the words in a translation over another. You admit the CLV has betrayed you many times... then why the CLV? What parts of it don't you like and then ask yourself is this is valid question? You seem to prefer Hebrew names for the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and even go so far to give them unique Hebrew titles like calling Christ the living Torah. Why do you do this? Since these remarks are so widely unpopular you now have challenged yourself to prove "why" and from your own words the CLV is flawed so you can't rely on this to make your claims. I guess it's time to start quoting from the Greek/Hebrew... have fun with that.

HARK! said:

Then what was he doing there; and why did they grab him?

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It says that He was following. Just curious maybe? Do you really think there are true answers to these questions. You are asking for an opinion. Why? Maybe Mark included the story of the young boy losing his clothing and running away naked as a metaphor for exposing his lack of true devotion. Maybe it was something later apostles [Mark, not in John's account], found a bit humorous in an otherwise dreadful event. Who knows, why do you ask? Yes, they fled, yes, they were afraid. No, none were arrested but Jesus. If they had been pursued, they would have been arrested. Are you denying that the use of I AM in John's Gospel is not relevant, that I am concocting something? Before Abraham was, I AM. They wanted to kill Him right then, but it was not His time. That is the point.

HARK! said:

(CLV) Num 15:15
As for the assembly, there shall be one statute for you and for the sojourner sojourning with you. It shall be an eonian statute throughout your generations. Like you so shall the sojourner be before Yahweh.

(CLV) Num 15:16
One law and one custom, it shall come to be for you and for the sojourner sojourning with you.

There aren't two sets of laws for those who assemble before YHWH.

There is one assembly. That is Israel.

(CLV) Hb 8:10
"For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days," the Lord is saying: "Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.

(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, [Yahshua] answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

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Israel (God's firstborn) is a picture of something relative to each individual in relationship to the son that they are, just as the law we live in is.

God calls light out of darkness as he does a son out of Egypt, a cohesive narrative from stem to stern which to the left or right of hangs a thief.

HARK! said:

I'm stuck on the CLV right now, because scripture4all has a download version with some nifty little tools. I've used lots of translations. I caught flaws in all of them. I trust none of them; but some are better than others. CLV is not too bad; and I can quickly pull up the Strong number if I have any questions.

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strong's is just as flawed as translations, even more so because it is contextless and does not account for grammatical inflections which can have dramatic differences in the text. You begin to lump all usages of words together having no idea that the word can express unique case, tense, gender, person etc... within the word so we mistranslate it to fit our own bias based on a very broad application or misunderstand the reason why a translation favours a form of a word over another.

HARK! said:

Escaping! You said it, not being set free, ESCAPING!

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We have looked at Mark and John. The Gospel of Luke brings some clarity to this discussion.
Betrayal and Arrest in Gethsemane Luke 22
47 And while He was still speaking, behold, a multitude; and he who was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them and drew near to Jesus to kiss Him. 48 But Jesus said to him, “Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?” 49 When those around Him saw what was going to happen, they said to Him, “Lord, shall we strike with the sword?” 50 And one of them struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his right ear. 51 But Jesus answered and said, “Permit even this.” And He touched his ear and healed him. 52 Then Jesus said to the chief priests, captains of the temple, and the elders who had come to Him, “Have you come out, as against a robber, with swords and clubs? 53 When I was with you daily in the temple, you did not try to seize Me. But this is your hour, and the power of darkness.”

“Lord, shall we strike with the sword?”
So we see that the initial reaction of His disciples was to stand and fight, not flee, with the exception of a lad who had tagged along. The narrative also clearly shows that they were vastly outnumbered.
And while He was still speaking, behold, a multitude; and he who was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them and drew near to Jesus to kiss Him.
They were also fully armed.
“Have you come out, as against a robber, with swords and clubs?
They had no reason to pull back and take cover as if it were some military defensive
strategy. They knew who they came to arrest. The One who was reported to have raised Lazarus from the dead. But now I come to the most important point of all that someone could have caught me off guard.
While I was out taking my walk, I asked the Lord why the same reaction to hearing I AM did not occur in Jerusalem when Yahshua was confronted by the citizens? A very pointed question indeed. Here is the answer:
First, Yahushua said this:"with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you." The citizens of Jerusalem challenged His authority. He was longsuffering toward them, but also very stern in saying:
John 8:24. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM, you will die in your sins.
So now, by what measure did the arresting officers use in coming to arrest Him? Look again at verse 53.
When I was with you daily in the temple, you did not try to seize Me. But this is your hour, and the power of darkness.
They came out against Him in the power of Satan himself. Do you think He is addressing the soldiers when He says "this is your hour". Satan had filled Judas before he departed from the last supper. Yahushua even addressed Peter once saying "Get behind me Satan", because he spoke presumptuously.
So Judas betrays him with a kiss with a multitude of soldiers, and when He says I AM, they fall to the ground. The full measure of the power of darkness was met by the power of Light and Truth. That is the explanation 'from above'.